The Avengers Joss Whedon leading on "Avengers" short list of directors

[roach]

Not a fan of the Buffy stuff nor Firefly..didnt like his AXM (sorry but it took too long to come out and i dropped it because i couldnt remember what had happened)....taking a wait and see attitude

 

[SpiderByte]

Wait, Whedon did Toy Story?

I *****ing LOVED Toy Story when I was a kid!

 

[DocHoliday]

There was 8 writers on Toy Story don't give Joss credit for it if you are going to discount Zak Penn's effort on X2.

 

[marvelrobbins]

He was one of the Writers of Toy Story.

 

[samsnee]

Letterier would have been a safe bet. I thought TIH and Clash were well handled, and it was the studio that really messed the latter up.

With Whedon, it can either be really good (AXM) or really bad (lightning hits a toad).

 

[Deaths Head II]

**** YES.

I'm as giddy as a schoolgirl right now.

 

[SpiderByte]

Well, that changes everything.

One of the main problems with Avengers was that it would be hard to juggle all the main characters around while still giving them each enough interaction and character development. Toy Story has, what, seven central characters, along with tons of minor characters.

This film will be totalepicawesomebadasscoolwina-palooza.

 

[OptimusPrime114]

Well, that changes everything.

One of the main problems with Avengers was that it would be hard to juggle all the main characters around while still giving them each enough interaction and character development. Toy Story has, what, seven central characters, along with tons of minor characters.

This film will be totalepicawesomebadasscoolwina-palooza.

I agree!

 

[DocHoliday]

He was one of the Writers of Toy Story.

I get that much. I am saying why give Whedon the credit of being 1 of 8 writers if they are going to discredit Zak Penn's credit on X2 for the same thing. I think people come down on Zak Penn too hard. You know what I mean? Like the Incredible Hulk was only good because of Norton, x2 was only good because of the other writers, but Xmen3 and FF were bad because of him. Just unfair on all counts.

 

[flickchick85]

Being a better director than Letterier is like being faster in a foot race than Charles Xavier...it's not a big accomplishment.

Haha, true, I was just making the comparison since Letterier seemed like a very real possibility. Otherwise, it's not worth comparing.

FlickChick85, I wasn't meaning to talk **** about Buffy. I also didn't know she was 16, I thought she was in college.

No worries, I didn't mean to come across personally offended, either. I just tend to jump to Buffy's defense because about 3 years ago, I had the exact same attitude that so many people seem to have, based on what few episodes I'd seen of it - that the whole thing was just damned silly. Then my college roommate made me actually take the time to watch it all, and my eyes were opened to how great and literate the show really was, beneath what it appeared to be on the surface. So now when people say things similar to the way I once felt about the show, my knee-jerk reaction is to chalk it up to the same ignorance of the series that I used to be guilty of myself.

Also, if this gets finalized and more people want to get to know his work as a director (which I actual prefer over his writing, though I do like them both), then they should check out Serenity (obviously), the Firefly episodes he directed (the Pilot, also called "Serenity," and "Objects in Space"), and the classic Buffy episodes he directed, like "Hush" (4x10), "Restless" (4x22), and "The Body" (5x16).

 

[lixdexia]

I get that much. I am saying why give Whedon the credit of being 1 of 8 writers if they are going to discredit Zak Penn's credit on X2 for the same thing. I think people come down on Zak Penn too hard. You know what I mean? Like the Incredible Hulk was only good because of Norton, x2 was only good because of the other writers, but Xmen3 and FF were bad because of him. Just unfair on all counts.

...you're penn, aren't you?

Haha, true, I was just making the comparison since Letterier seemed like a very real possibility. Otherwise, it's not worth comparing.


No worries, I didn't mean to come across personally offended, either. I just tend to jump to Buffy's defense because about 3 years ago, I had the exact same attitude that so many people seem to have, based on what few episodes I'd seen of it - that the whole thing was just damned silly. Then my college roommate made me actually take the time to watch it all, and my eyes were opened to how great and literate the show really was, beneath what it appeared to be on the surface. So now when people say things similar to the way I once felt about the show, my knee-jerk reaction is to chalk it up to the same ignorance of the series that I used to be guilty of myself.

Also, if this gets finalized and more people want to get to know his work as a director (which I actual prefer over his writing, though I do like them both), then they should check out Serenity (obviously), the Firefly episodes he directed (the Pilot, also called "Serenity," and "Objects in Space"), and the classic Buffy episodes he directed, like "Hush" (4x10), "Restless" (4x22), and "The Body" (5x16).

buffy is so awesome that i got 3 credits of "critical thinking" just by discussing the show

the peak of whedon awesomeness for me though (and proof that he can do more than just strong female leads) is angel season 5. if can balance the big 3 (and that other guy) as well as he balanced angel, spike, gunn and wesley (although not in a directorial capacity admitedly) then this movie will avoid the "(insert your choice of the big 3 here) and the avengers" feel that has loomed over the idea of an avengers movie for me since it's first mention.

 

[DocHoliday]

Not in the least. I just hate fanboy antics. Especially when in a single post someone uses the same judgement for someone and against someone else.

 

[roach]

well I watched Buffy and it didnt do anything for me

 

[Figs]

No worries, I didn't mean to come across personally offended, either. I just tend to jump to Buffy's defense because about 3 years ago, I had the exact same attitude that so many people seem to have, based on what few episodes I'd seen of it - that the whole thing was just damned silly. Then my college roommate made me actually take the time to watch it all, and my eyes were opened to how great and literate the show really was, beneath what it appeared to be on the surface. So now when people say things similar to the way I once felt about the show, my knee-jerk reaction is to chalk it up to the same ignorance of the series that I used to be guilty of myself.

You didn't come across offended, I was just letting you know I wasn't trying to bash anything.

Another key thing in regards to Buffy is that my gf said she caught a few episodes when it was on and said it was pretty good. My gf isn't into girly/romance stuff so that's also a good sign that I might like that show. She liked Angel more though but that's because she likes Boreanaz and she got me into the show Bones last year.

Thanks for the reply Saint. I can't believe I didn't figure that out but I never got around to reading AXM.

 

[Son of Coul]

I just watched Dr. Horrible and think he's more than capable of getting into the characters as long as he doesn't try to inflict too much of his own apparent style into the movie.

 

[Chewy]

The most important thing Whedon brings to this table and the thing that makes me confidant about the pick is his ability to handle ensemble casts.

 

[lixdexia]

Not in the least. I just hate fanboy antics. Especially when in a single post someone uses the same judgement for someone and against someone else.

i know, i was just poking fun at your fervent defense of penn. i understand and support your sentiment.

 

[DocHoliday]

My big question about Whedon is his technical skill with a camera not his penmanship (which Marvel would be smart to watch carefully). He doesn't use a lot of wide angle and his camera is a bit stationary. I did like the opening shot of Serenity a lot though.

 

[DocHoliday]

i know, i was just poking fun at your fervent defense of penn. i understand and support your sentiment.

Oh I figured. Besides you have a Hawkeye avatar, you must have a ton of logic.

 

[roach]

My only concern is that Whedon/Avengers doesnt live up to the high bar set by the other films

 

[Deaths Head II]

Not a fan of the Buffy stuff nor Firefly..didnt like his AXM (sorry but it took too long to come out and i dropped it because i couldnt remember what had happened)....taking a wait and see attitude

They have these things called Trade paperbacks. You should look into it.

Seriously though, Astonishing was one of those stories that felt like it was meant to be all at once. The whole run is pretty much one self-contained story. I strongly recommend checking out the collected books. But I'm one of those guys who waits for the tradepaper backs on every book because honestly I can't collect single issue books anymore.

 

[JP]

Whedon excels at character driven ensembles.

 

[JP]

Whedon excels at character driven ensembles.

 

[Nirvana]

I'm honestly not terribly familair with his work outside of Serenity and a few episodes of Firefly. I think he'll do good. Too bad they couldn't have gotten any of the other four current directors to take the helm.

 

[roach]

They have these things called Trade paperbacks. You should look into it.

Seriously though, Astonishing was one of those stories that felt like it was meant to be all at once. The whole run is pretty much one self-contained story. I strongly recommend checking out the collected books. But I'm one of those guys who waits for the tradepaper backs on every book because honestly I can't collect single issue books anymore.

i just dont have the desire to do that now