Action-Adventure 'Jungle Cruise' Movie starring The Rock and Emily Blunt

[Albright]

Opening weekend.

nope

 

[Broseph44]

I’m definitely looking forward to this one. Like many have said seems like a great mix of The Mummy and Pirates Of The Caribbean. Fun action. Plus I love The Rock and Emily Blunt.

 

[Prison Mike]

Yeah I’m looking forward to it too. Should be a fun adventure film where you turn your brain off

 

[Dr. Evil]

Good to see Movie Premieres being a thing again.

This movie should make a lot of bank, especially overseas, where the Rock is huge.

 

[Web-Head]

 

[Deck Rickard]

I’m definitely looking forward to this one. Like many have said seems like a great mix of The Mummy and Pirates Of The Caribbean. Fun action. Plus I love The Rock and Emily Blunt.

Yeah but I have serious doubts about the Rock’s performance without Vin Diesel on set to motivate him.

 

[Sithborg]

Good to see Movie Premieres being a thing again.

This movie should make a lot of bank, especially overseas, where the Rock is huge.

Assuming it gets a China release, that is...

 

[Marvolo]

I see your point, but in combination the "Piracy in 4K" is an huge factor. Account sharing as well.

I feel like account sharing is probably mitigated as a problem when you're dealing with a 103 million confirmed disney+ subscriber base. And I suspect the $30 premiere access price per film, the cost of about 2 theater tickets, helps offset the loss to screen sharing as well.

 

[Albright]

I don‘t think that piracy is a big factor.

10 years ago maybe, when almost everyone, who was a tech-guy did it.
10 years ago no one would‘ve paid for something, that he won‘t own physically. That has changed with Netflix and Spotify.

People who watch illegal streams nowadays would‘ve never bought theater tickets, even if it was a theater only release

 

[psylockolussus]

People who watch illegal streams nowadays would‘ve never bought theater tickets, even if it was a theater only release

Not true, I bought like more than 20 movie tickets in 2019 and 5 movie tickets last year.

But right now I don't have access to Disney+ due to unavailability and theaters are closed since March 2020. The Delta variant is further hindering the reopening of theaters here.

Not everyone lives in a country with their theaters open and theres a Disney+ app that anyone can subscribe to. How are people in my country supposed to watch these films? Black widow, Soul, Luca, Mulan, Jungle Cruise, Ww84, Space Jam 2, etc... physical media is also dead here.

 

[metaphysician]

I see your point, but in combination the "Piracy in 4K" is an huge factor. Account sharing as well.

Once again, those only make a difference in box office, if the people who are account sharing or pirating in 4K would have otherwise went to the theater and spent money on a movie ticket. This is, at best, an unproven supposition.

 

[metaphysician]

Not true, I bought like more than 20 movie tickets in 2019 and 5 movie tickets last year.

But right now I don't have access to Disney+ due to unavailability and theaters are closed since March 2020. The Delta variant is further hindering the reopening of theaters here.

Not everyone lives in a country with their theaters open and theres a Disney+ app that anyone can subscribe to. How are people in my country supposed to watch these films? Black widow, Soul, Luca, Mulan, Jungle Cruise, Ww84, Space Jam 2, etc... physical media is also dead here.

Yes, but you and people like you wouldn't be contributing to the box office *anyway*. Piracy only leads to lost revenue if you would have gone to the theater, and if the theaters were closed? Not an option, so not a loss due to streaming.

 

[psylockolussus]

Yes, but you and people like you wouldn't be contributing to the box office *anyway*. Piracy only leads to lost revenue if you would have gone to the theater, and if the theaters were closed? Not an option, so not a loss due to streaming.

That sounds eXtremely dismissive.

We contributed to international boX office. Disney collected boX office numbers from my country and those numbers which can easily be seen in boX office mojo. I don't live in Mars for you to dismiss me like that.

I watched Endgame four times in the cinema and I would have paid for Black Widow IF theaters were opened *anyway*

And with so many streaming apps out there, how are you sure someone who is already paying for NetfliX and Amazon, won't watch Disney movies in torrent sites? Do you eXpect people to also subscribe to Disney+, HBO MaX, Peacock, Paramount+ to keep up with these movies when they are all accessible in a single site for free?

Black Widow is the most pirated movie of the pandemic | Cult MTL

According to that article,"box office eXperts" already stated the piracy is a factor. But if you want to act piracy don't hurt businesses then okay.

 

[metaphysician]

That sounds eXtremely dismissive.

We contributed to international boX office. Disney collected boX office numbers from my country and those numbers which can easily be seen in boX office mojo. I don't live in Mars for you to dismiss me like that.

I watched Endgame four times in the cinema and I would have paid for Black Widow theaters if were opened *anyway*

And with so many streaming apps out there, how are you sure someone who is already paying for NetfliX and Amazon, won't watch Disney movies in torrent sites? Do you eXpect people to also subscribe to Disney+, HBO MaX, Peacock to keep up with these movies when they are accessible in a single site for free?

*blink* You do realize we are talking about the right here, right now, during the pandemic, right? Sure, you contributed to box office numbers when there wasn't an ongoing pandemic. That is *not the case right now*. You can't blame Disney+ for lost revenue, when the revenue couldn't have been earned at the box office anyway. It wasn't and couldn't be Disney+'s fault, it was the pandemic's fault and would have been lost *regardless of whether Disney+ offered premium streaming*.

Or to phrase it differently, it sounds like you are blaming Disney+ for giving the *option* for people in other countries to watch a movie, when you yourself don't have that option. Which is a fair complaint I suppose, except it has nothing to do with the idea that Disney+ is causing a loss of box office revenue. If premium streaming did not exist, you *still* wouldn't get to watch BW in theaters, and you still wouldn't get to contribute to its overall box office.

 

[psylockolussus]

*blink* You do realize we are talking about the right here, right now, during the pandemic, right? Sure, you contributed to box office numbers when there wasn't an ongoing pandemic. That is *not the case right now*. You can't blame Disney+ for lost revenue, when the revenue couldn't have been earned at the box office anyway. It wasn't and couldn't be Disney+'s fault, it was the pandemic's fault and would have been lost *regardless of whether Disney+ offered premium streaming*.

Or to phrase it differently, it sounds like you are blaming Disney+ for giving the *option* for people in other countries to watch a movie, when you yourself don't have that option. Which is a fair complaint I suppose, except it has nothing to do with the idea that Disney+ is causing a loss of box office revenue. If premium streaming did not exist, you *still* wouldn't get to watch BW in theaters, and you still wouldn't get to contribute to its overall box office.

The point is piracy "eXists". The quality of pirated films like Black Widow are in 4K HD, not camcorded. when high quality pirated copies are out there, it is only giving people a reason not to subscribe or go to the theaters.

Now when theaters are back from where I live, I'd probably won't watch that many new movies from Wb/Disney as I know there are 4k copies floating around in the internet.

Even if theaters are open here in my location, I don't think I'd be watching Jungle Cruise in a theater, as I know I'd be saving my $25 dollars + factor in preventing catching the virus.

 

[Web-Head]

Avoiding reviews but it's at 70% on Rotten Tomatoes with 60 reviews so far.

 

[psylockolussus]

Avoiding reviews but it's at 70% on Rotten Tomatoes with 60 reviews so far.

I eXpected worse.

 

[Prison Mike]

The only real way to know the full effect of piracy is to have theaters open at full capacity, worldwide, and 4K pirated versions on the internet. Otherwise it’s just conjecture at this point.

 

[psylockolussus]

The only real way to know the full effect of piracy is to have theaters open at full capacity, worldwide, and 4K pirated versions on the internet. Otherwise it’s just conjecture at this point.

You can believe piracy is non factor or not. But as someone who prefers theaterical eXperience - I will say that I would watch fewer movies when theaters here opened. Money wise, it is more wise for me to spend my money on "essential" things than to a movie that I can easily access for free, in Ultra 4K HD through the internet, in the opening weekend of that movie. I'm not saying "support piracy", but I'm sure some people can relate to that.

However if an Ultra 4k doesn't eXist online - days or at least the first 3 months... there are more possibility, that I would be watching a movie like Jungle Cruise in a theater. Imagine if 4k copies of the movies I watched in 2019 were accessible in the opening weekend for free, I don't think I would have seen 29 different movies in the theater in 2019.

Also, Disney is releasing Black widow in digital stores 1 month after its theaterical release and then in physical media after 2 months.... if thats not an effect from piracy, then I don't know what it is.

 

[Prison Mike]

The problem is I haven’t seen anyone give concrete proof that piracy is the problem…they just say that it is. I’m sure it’s one of the factors, but not the only one. I would like it if someone could do some calculation of how much potential revenue was lost due to piracy alone.

 

[psylockolussus]

The problem is I haven’t seen anyone give concrete proof that piracy is the problem…they just say that it is. I’m sure it’s one of the factors, but not the only one. I would like it if someone could do some calculation of how much potential revenue was lost due to piracy alone.

I don't think anyone here, is saying movies are losing revenue to piracy alone. But piracy is a big factor especially in this time of pandemic. Like I said, I don't think I can watch as much movies in the theaters like I used to in the past.

As for calculation - I personally assumed boX office numbers for movies like Ww84 and Black Widow would be much higher if they weren't available online right away, because why wouldn't I?

But you can easily google that WW84 and Black Widow are two of the most pirated movies of the pandemic era. F9 isn't even in top two, most likely because the 4k copy of that movie isn't released yet by its studio.

 

[Marvolo]

The point is piracy "eXists". The quality of pirated films like Black Widow are in 4K HD, not camcorded. when high quality pirated copies are out there, it is only giving people a reason not to subscribe or go to the theaters.

Now when theaters are back from where I live, I'd probably won't watch that many new movies from Wb/Disney as I know there are 4k copies floating around in the internet.

Even if theaters are open here in my location, I don't think I'd be watching Jungle Cruise in a theater, as I know I'd be saving my $25 dollars + factor in preventing catching the virus.

Just to be clear HD piracy has been an issue since theaters switched to digital over 10 years ago. When theaters started receiving films on hard drives and by way of digital server downloads it became easier to straight rip a new movie and torrent it in various video formats very shortly after release. Theaters and industry people saying otherwise are full of **** and just trying to flame a narrative that Disney+ is the new thing that's going to kill cinema.

We've been through this before. It used to be sound, then color, then home tvs, then it was home video releases of movies...there is always some new tech that is painted as the cinema killer.

 

[psylockolussus]

Just to be clear HD piracy has been an issue since theaters switched to digital over 10 years ago. When theaters started receiving films on hard drives and by way of digital server downloads it became easier to straight rip a new movie and torrent it in various video formats very shortly after release. Theaters and industry people saying otherwise are full of **** and just trying to flame a narrative that Disney+ is the new thing that's going to kill cinema.

We've been through this before. It used to be sound, then color, then home tvs, then it was home video releases of movies...there is always some new tech that is painted as the cinema killer.

If thats the case, then how come I didn't see a 4K Ultra HD quality for F9 and Snake Eyes floating in the internet? The ones that I saw were cam corded. That was the case as well for New Mutants when it was released in theaters in September.

 

[Sithborg]

Also, Disney is releasing Black widow in digital stores 1 month after its theaterical release and then in physical media after 2 months.... if thats not an effect from piracy, then I don't know what it is.

Lets see, the box office has shown the dangers of releasing in the pandemic. No one is doing massive holds. And its only going to get worse as Delta spreads. And then the real kicker, no China release. With looking at maybe having to wait till at least September to get a release, if it gets one, what is Disney going to do. Without the revenue of China, they are going to want to salvage as much income as possible.

 

[Holy Slapper]

69% Fresh after 85 reviews. Kind of hoping it stays around there, just because Campea said it would fall a lot after more reviews. And he didn't even think it was that bad.