Jurassic Park IV - Part 1

[Maximum Carnage]

The Mummy vs. Jurassic Park. Boom.

 

[Blue Moon]

Considering some of the comments made about all of the Jurassic Park movies following the plot of 'escape dinos and the island', I had a thought about the inverse of such a plot.

Let's say the beginning of the movie features a big dino rampage in some part of America, Chicago and its' suburbs for instance, and it is revealed that some rival company to InGen has been raiding the semi-protected islands since the financial crisis of 2008 (i doubt governments would continue monitoring the islands during the recession if it was too expensive to do so). A team of highly skilled biologists, paleontologists, etc. would then be contracted by the govt. to bring back the laboratory-born mainland dinos to Isla Nubar via a freighter. However, the rival company sneaks aboard a mole to sabotage the mission and destroy the evidence. Things go awry, dinos get loose on the ship,various character growth,etc.

First third of the movie would be the mainland dino rampage, assembling the team and setting sail for the islands. Second act would be some character moments, establishing them as interesting people you're supposed to care about then the mole gets caught trying to sink the ship. Somehow the dinos are released and run amok. Third act would be surviving on the ship, reaching the island,capturing the mole again and trying to get the dinos off the boat and onto the island.

Shazam! 300 million opening weekend right there. Thoughts?

 

[Lord]

Something like this would be badass

 

[Victarion]

It catches the eye moreso than the usual Rex skeleton logo.

 

[terry78]

Should there be a subtitle as opposed to just the IV?

 

[Maximum Carnage]

Extinction is the only solution. Hmm. I love that!! Where it gets so bad, that these creatures are running amok in cities and countries all over the world, that a wide-spread sweep is the only thing that there's left to do.


I'm so down.

However, is this considered another trilogy? Or just another sequel?

 

[Lord]

Extinction is the only solution. Hmm. I love that!! Where it gets so bad, that these creatures are running amok in cities and countries all over the world, that a wide-spread sweep is the only thing that there's left to do.


I'm so down.

However, is this considered another trilogy? Or just another sequel?

The last time they mentione they said it was going to be a new trilogy and that "it's not going to be about the park anymore"

 

[8wid]

It can be summarized a sequel would deal with dinosaurs going to mainland, going extinct, or being another B-movie perhaps with the mockumentary style of filmmaking everyone wants.

 

[Doctor Jones]

It catches the eye moreso than the usual Rex skeleton logo.

I think this time the T-Rex logo should have Venom in its eye.

 

[Nightmare]

Something like this would be badass

Bad ass!

 

[Chrisbarnes182]

Considering some of the comments made about all of the Jurassic Park movies following the plot of 'escape dinos and the island', I had a thought about the inverse of such a plot.

Let's say the beginning of the movie features a big dino rampage in some part of America, Chicago and its' suburbs for instance, and it is revealed that some rival company to InGen has been raiding the semi-protected islands since the financial crisis of 2008 (i doubt governments would continue monitoring the islands during the recession if it was too expensive to do so). A team of highly skilled biologists, paleontologists, etc. would then be contracted by the govt. to bring back the laboratory-born mainland dinos to Isla Nubar via a freighter. However, the rival company sneaks aboard a mole to sabotage the mission and destroy the evidence. Things go awry, dinos get loose on the ship,various character growth,etc.

First third of the movie would be the mainland dino rampage, assembling the team and setting sail for the islands. Second act would be some character moments, establishing them as interesting people you're supposed to care about then the mole gets caught trying to sink the ship. Somehow the dinos are released and run amok. Third act would be surviving on the ship, reaching the island,capturing the mole again and trying to get the dinos off the boat and onto the island.

Shazam! 300 million opening weekend right there. Thoughts?

Enough is enough! I have had it with these mother###ing Dinosaurs on this mother###ing ship!

 

[Maximum Carnage]

I want a Muldoon prequel. NOW. >P

 

[LokiDionysos]

Considering some of the comments made about all of the Jurassic Park movies following the plot of 'escape dinos and the island', I had a thought about the inverse of such a plot.

Let's say the beginning of the movie features a big dino rampage in some part of America, Chicago and its' suburbs for instance, and it is revealed that some rival company to InGen has been raiding the semi-protected islands since the financial crisis of 2008 (i doubt governments would continue monitoring the islands during the recession if it was too expensive to do so). A team of highly skilled biologists, paleontologists, etc. would then be contracted by the govt. to bring back the laboratory-born mainland dinos to Isla Nubar via a freighter. However, the rival company sneaks aboard a mole to sabotage the mission and destroy the evidence. Things go awry, dinos get loose on the ship,various character growth,etc.

First third of the movie would be the mainland dino rampage, assembling the team and setting sail for the islands. Second act would be some character moments, establishing them as interesting people you're supposed to care about then the mole gets caught trying to sink the ship. Somehow the dinos are released and run amok. Third act would be surviving on the ship, reaching the island,capturing the mole again and trying to get the dinos off the boat and onto the island.

Shazam! 300 million opening weekend right there. Thoughts?

I'd say something like this could really work for the first movie of a new trilogy. I think the corporate espionage angle should definitely be a part of it, and the reason for why the Dinos start becoming a problem again. Base it around the idea of Pterodactyl and Plesiosaur sightings at first, and then the sudden unexplained rampages tying into the moles within the company idea and we have a winner!

I also like your idea of keeping the plot mainly on the cargo ship; away from the mainland and the island for a lot of it. That, and the rampage idea could definitely take the trilogy away from the park and break up the formula while using some of the ideas in a new way. Your ideas really could tie together a lot of the other suggested plotlines. I particularly like the idea of Tim and Lex running the company and having a stake in the appearance of dinos on the mainland.


Maybe put a twist ending on it where at the end it's revealed that the rival company, BioSyn, had lots of carnivores on the mainland being prepped to be placed in their own parks in many countries. And the survivors Tim, Lex, Saddler, and Ian Malcolm witness another rampage already in process the second they return to the mainland. So they know something's up and BioSyn had more on the mainland.

You could even build upon the idea of the Dino rampages suddenly appearing by turning it into an outbreak theme that runs through the new trilogy. Making it much darker. Where these cloned frog-hybrid Dinos start reproducing at an excessive rate instead of getting smarter like the silly idea they had for the raptors to use guns at one point.

And by the third movie it's us who are almost extinct... and the middle or end of the trilogy can be called extinction when it's basically us vs them, and them vs themselves as they eat each other to survive and keep reproducing. Then it could really become a dark version of Cadillacs and Dinosaurs with Tim and some new survivors he finds as main characters.

If they still really want to make the raptors super smart, then hopefully they don't give them guns, however the second movie could tone down that idea and use it in a more realistic way. Making it almost like Rise of the apes. The rise of the smarter and even faster Raptors. Multiplying and dominating.

The gov'ts and armies of the world don't know what to do when many cities start having major problems similar to what was witnessed at the start of the trilogy; so they bomb the islands, but hesitate just a little too long when mass panic erupts in many cities. They try a diff solution that backfires even worse and only speeds up the transformation of Earth into Jurassic World. Really moving the story away from the parks. It could be all about the military response/inability to bomb cities leading to the loss, exploding dinosaur populations everywhere, and mass groups of raptors recognizing military locations and disrupting the ability to strategize, navigate, or exterminate the exploding populations.

Becoming an almost higher class of the dinosaurs that have now allowed similar rampages and escapes to go forth worldwide. And an even larger threat in the third movie as the most intelligent species of dinos who keep Tim, the other humans, and many of the other dinosaurs on the run.

We already know that the dinosaurs have found a way to reproduce.. despite being genetically altered to not be able to.

Quite possibly because of the frog DNA.

They could become a plague on the world.

Have you seen that episode of the Simpsons where Bart introduces a foreign species to a new environment?

Sometimes when that happens the foreign species multiplies at a hard to handle rate. In this case it's a hybrid dino-bullfrog species.

So a paleobotanist can come back into it and tell us how the environment was perfect for them back at the parks... but on the mainland the bullfrog genetics have allowed them to adapt to a new climate and new ecosystems in unexpected ways.

Multiplying across the world like the frogs Bart lets loose in that Simpsons episode. All because of Ingen's mistake in using the frog genetics (which was the secret the corporate moles within the company spent years learning, while others were raiding site b). Also because of BioSyn trying to actualize Hammond's goal of putting a park in every part of the world. Like a Jurassicland or Jurassicworld.

 

[I'm Old Greg]

I say this every year...

Why not do the prequel befor Jurassic Park showing all the families and colonies that were on the first island that created the dinosaurs.

Show them having to escape the island.

Kinda like Aliens how all the colonists died.

It can be exciting seeing the creation of the dinosaurs.

 

[Webhead2006]

I still wouldn't just want to have the film be just dino rampage and attacking mainland. Like I said beforre with that we just get into let's destrroy all dinos/typical monster movie arrea. Now if we did island and cargo ship thing with maybe my idea of a rrival been going to the island trying to steal/create new dinos for there own gain and it causing the island dinos dyning and reason for tim/lex and others from ingen to come that could work.

 

[Spider-Who?]

My problem with that is that we've already seen the "evil rival screwing things up" plot in both JP1 and JP2.

 

[Chrisbarnes182]

That is very true has been done. The main issue we have and it is such a shame that Michael Crichton did not write a Third Novel that we can have a nice starting point. I think that was one of the main issues from the 3rd film to start with. It was to mixed and matched taking a few set pieces from both books and incorperating them into a different story.

Well that's what I remember of it anyway I have watched that film once when it came out and not read the books for a good few years.

I feel like I would just like them to leave it alone unless we are 100% sure it will do Michael Crichton's books and the first and to some point the 2nd film complete justice.

 

[Matt]

I always thought that I had a good idea for JP4....

I say we get back to the essentials. Jurrasic PARK. New company, new characters. Years after the original debacle, a team finally recovers enough samples to create their own dinosaurs. A new company, by lining the right pockets manages to get approval for a zoo. They create a massive INDOOR park, right on the outskirts of Las Vegas (where else would a tourist attraction like real dinosaurs be?). This is not without controversy. There are people who protest the dangerous nature of the park (could be a good opportunity for cameoes to connect the films, show Alan Grant and/or Ian Malcolm on Larry King or something speaking out against the new park). There are PETA-extremists protesting the treatment of the dinosaurs (made simply to be shown off), etc. The park, none the less, is a massive success. Of course, that is until one of the protestors sabotage the park's security. The dinosaurs escape from their pens. Being as this happened before and the park is on the mainland, governments are prepared. The Nevada National Guard quarantines the park. No one in or out. The movie can focus on a group of survivors trying to avoid the massacre until the dinosaurs die of starvation and they can finally escape. All while on the outside, the world's largest tourist city is at risk of the dinosaurs getting free.

In my mind, it would be more like Dawn of the Dead. The scope of this movie would be large, months. This group of survivors can only get out once the dinosaurs have exhausted all of their resources and died and so the survivors have to set up their own civilization to outlast them.

Which is what makes Vegas a perfect setting. Where else could something so grand be than the vast desert of Las Vegas? Where else could you get approval for such a thing?

Plus, imagine the epic nature of the movie. Man vs nature. Its practically a bio-dome and there they are, a civilization of humans, trapped, trying to outlive dinosaurs. The themes of extinction and natural selection could be brilliantly executed.

Plus with the closed-in nature of the dome, this could actually be kind of scary on a claustrophobic level. Think of Quarantine...the way the military sealed off the building so quickly. That was one of the scariest elements to me. That could be this movie.

 

[Chrisbarnes182]

I always thought that I had a good idea for JP4....

I always thought my ideas for JPIV were pretty good.

And you were right I do actually really like this idea which is annoying because I am now contradicting the what I had written 3 post ago.

The Vegas setting is perfect and I am glad you didn't use the Dinosaurs escaping because that would just annoy me i think I mean even in our time in real life if a Dinosaur ended up running havoc in a town/city it wouldn't cause that much havoc because with our weaponry it would be stopped pretty measly.

Anyway I like how you have managed to include Grant and Malcolm into it but still managing to have a fresh new cast for main characters as I read it.

And with a big part of it being set trapped in the park it brings back what I liked about the books/original films. That these people are trapped with the Dinosaurs in there relatively natural Habitat with nowhere really to go.



Very wicked job Matt I loved it.

 

[chaseter]

No dinosaurs in Vegas, Chicago, LA...where ever. It's not scary. It's like Jaws at that water park. When we are in their element...it's scary. A Rex running around San Diego is lame. Everyone would run into a building and the cops would blast its face off. Only Godzilla or Cloverfield work on that level because they are so damn huge.

Make it be in the Amazon or or somewhere remote. A raptor in the foliage is creepy...a raptor in Bally's is lame spectacle.

 

[Chrisbarnes182]

No dinosaurs in Vegas, Chicago, LA...where ever. It's not scary. It's like Jaws at that water park. When we are in their element...it's scary. A Rex running around San Diego is lame. Everyone would run into a building and the cops would blast its face off. Only Godzilla or Cloverfield work on that level because they are so damn huge.

Make it be in the Amazon or or somewhere remote. A raptor in the foliage is creepy...a raptor in Bally's is lame spectacle.

That is the point I was making with Matt's idea above.

Yes it is set in Vegas but the Dinosaurs are actually in a purpose built Park/Zoo made for them to be an attraction. Then things go wrong the park is on lock down but there are people left in there with the Dinosaurs in there Natural Habitat. So really best of both worlds. Yeah maybe when everything kicks of a couple escape in which causes them to put the park on lock down but apart from that have it set in the park.

 

[chaseter]

They would either bomb the dome or SWAT would go in and exterminate everything. The setting has to be away from civilization. That's what is terrifying. In JP1...the storm isolated them all to the island with no help coming or contact with the outside world.

Have someone be setting up a reserve in the Amazon or Africa. What would be awesome is seeing a man out hunting a lion and a big ass Rex pops out and eats the lion. Or, there are reports of ancient reptiles in the Amazon and Grant and Satler are asked to investigate. Turns out Biosyn or whoever got samples off of the island but they escaped or whatever.

 

[SoulManX]

I'd say something like this could really work for the first movie of a new trilogy. I think the corporate espionage angle should definitely be a part of it, and the reason for why the Dinos start becoming a problem again. Base it around the idea of Pterodactyl and Plesiosaur sightings at first, and then the sudden unexplained rampages tying into the moles within the company idea and we have a winner!

I also like your idea of keeping the plot mainly on the cargo ship; away from the mainland and the island for a lot of it. That, and the rampage idea could definitely take the trilogy away from the park and break up the formula while using some of the ideas in a new way. Your ideas really could tie together a lot of the other suggested plotlines. I particularly like the idea of Tim and Lex running the company and having a stake in the appearance of dinos on the mainland.


Maybe put a twist ending on it where at the end it's revealed that the rival company, BioSyn, had lots of carnivores on the mainland being prepped to be placed in their own parks in many countries. And the survivors Tim, Lex, Saddler, and Ian Malcolm witness another rampage already in process the second they return to the mainland. So they know something's up and BioSyn had more on the mainland.

You could even build upon the idea of the Dino rampages suddenly appearing by turning it into an outbreak theme that runs through the new trilogy. Making it much darker. Where these cloned frog-hybrid Dinos start reproducing at an excessive rate instead of getting smarter like the silly idea they had for the raptors to use guns at one point.

And by the third movie it's us who are almost extinct... and the middle or end of the trilogy can be called extinction when it's basically us vs them, and them vs themselves as they eat each other to survive and keep reproducing. Then it could really become a dark version of Cadillacs and Dinosaurs with Tim and some new survivors he finds as main characters.

If they still really want to make the raptors super smart, then hopefully they don't give them guns, however the second movie could tone down that idea and use it in a more realistic way. Making it almost like Rise of the apes. The rise of the smarter and even faster Raptors. Multiplying and dominating.

The gov'ts and armies of the world don't know what to do when many cities start having major problems similar to what was witnessed at the start of the trilogy; so they bomb the islands, but hesitate just a little too long when mass panic erupts in many cities. They try a diff solution that backfires even worse and only speeds up the transformation of Earth into Jurassic World. Really moving the story away from the parks. It could be all about the military response/inability to bomb cities leading to the loss, exploding dinosaur populations everywhere, and mass groups of raptors recognizing military locations and disrupting the ability to strategize, navigate, or exterminate the exploding populations.

Becoming an almost higher class of the dinosaurs that have now allowed similar rampages and escapes to go forth worldwide. And an even larger threat in the third movie as the most intelligent species of dinos who keep Tim, the other humans, and many of the other dinosaurs on the run.

We already know that the dinosaurs have found a way to reproduce.. despite being genetically altered to not be able to.

Quite possibly because of the frog DNA.

They could become a plague on the world.

Have you seen that episode of the Simpsons where Bart introduces a foreign species to a new environment?

Sometimes when that happens the foreign species multiplies at a hard to handle rate. In this case it's a hybrid dino-bullfrog species.

So a paleobotanist can come back into it and tell us how the environment was perfect for them back at the parks... but on the mainland the bullfrog genetics have allowed them to adapt to a new climate and new ecosystems in unexpected ways.

Multiplying across the world like the frogs Bart lets loose in that Simpsons episode. All because of Ingen's mistake in using the frog genetics (which was the secret the corporate moles within the company spent years learning, while others were raiding site b). Also because of BioSyn trying to actualize Hammond's goal of putting a park in every part of the world. Like a Jurassicland or Jurassicworld.

Greenlight this now Amblin!

 

[Spider-Who?]

The sheer size of a "dome" or other enclosed structure needed to accomodate an entire zoo worth of massive dinosaurs seems a little far fetched to me. Granted, I can see that being a point of contention with a PETA-like group ("its too small")...but idunno...I'm not feeling that scenario, never mind its just a reshash of JP1 with a new location, which brings me back around to my view that we've said just about all there is to say in the JP franchise. Anything else is just a rehash of the original story: Man creates dinosaurs. Something bad happens. Dinosaurs eat people. Don't get me wrong, JP1 is one of my all time favorite movies - it defined my childhood. But the milk ran dry with the franchise as far back as during JP2.

 

[Webhead2006]

ya the island, a boat stuff like that makes the dinos more scary and creepy then being in the city and all that. And sure we had some rival stuff in the other films but first it was just the computer guy and he got killed and in the second it was more of the jackass who took over ingen wanting to do things. That is why i rather have a full on rival story mixing some of that boat idea and my idea of them trying to create dinos and its causing the island dinos to die and wash up on mainland. Like i said before something like that makes for a easy reason to send a team back to the island to see whats up, then mix in that boat idea and bam a solid film there i say.