Jurassic World - Part 10

[Marvin]

102million is fantastic and is just under Avengers record second weekend gross. Just under 400mil after two weeks is amazing and I believe they are overestimating Sunday's Father's Day aided drop.

well it was just over it's first weekend, figures it'd be close either way.

 

[Wildcard]

I think it's amazing to see it made another $102 million for its second weekend. A $981 million WW total is indeed impressive...should be at $1 billion tomorrow when the actuals come in.

 

[Incarnadine]

well it was just over it's first weekend, figures it'd be close either way.

I think it will be just like last weekend where the actuals will put it over the record. I really think they are underestimating the effect of Fathers Day, movies like JW tend to have very soft drops or even stay flat. A 10% drop puts it over 105m (last year Godzilla actually increased .9%, they are predicting -15.2% for JW)

 

[marvelrobbins]

I think anyone who claims they say jurassic world's huge success coming is lying.

Jurassic World is probally the great surprise success story of 2015.

 

[DKDetective]

Yeah I wish T-Rex didn't go down like 5 seconds after showing up. But it didn't take away from the ending.

I would have loved to see a I-Rex/Spino fight. They both have long snouts, which is a definite advantage over T-Rex.

Also feel bad for Blue. She's a raptor without a pack now.

Ummm, not at all. Spinosaurus's long snout is designed for catching and eating fish. Likewise, I-Rex has the skull shape and jaw profile of a carnosaur (not the species, but the general group that includes allosaurs and carcharodontosaurs), which is designed for slashing the flesh of large, unarmored sauropods. T-Rex's jaws are specifically designed for attacking armored, aggressive herbivores and for fighting other carnivores, so as to steal kills away from them. There is no advantage.

 

[Incarnadine]

I think anyone who claims they say jurassic world's huge success coming is lying.

Jurassic World is probally the great surprise success story of 2015.

Definitely a monster surprise. I thought I was being overly optimistic predicting an opening in the 140's and about 380 total, instead we have an opening of 208 and 400m in 10 days and still going strong.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I think it will be just like last weekend where the actuals will put it over the record. I really think they are underestimating the effect of Fathers Day, movies like JW tend to have very soft drops or even stay flat. A 10% drop puts it over 105m (last year Godzilla actually increased .9%, they are predicting -15.2% for JW)

Yes I'm thinking at worst it has a 10% drop and breaks the record.

 

[DKDetective]

She also saved him twice, once from that flying dinosaur and the second time by releasing the T Rex so the two Rex can face off against each other. She's definitely the protagonist of the story, and got more character development than Chris Pratt's character. It made Joss Whedon's criticism of her character rather idiotic now, especially since he made those comments without seeing the movie.

Not idiotic at all. Whedon's criticism remains entirely correct as her arc was still cliche, offensive, and sexist. She is a shrill, ridiculously uptight career women who learns to loosen up and become a better, more well-rounded human being as a result of her interaction with a handsome, masculine rogue who sweeps her off her feet. It's straight out of 1984 and Romancing the Stone.

 

[DACrowe]

Not idiotic at all. Whedon's criticism remains entirely correct as her arc was still cliche, offensive, and sexist. She is a shrill, ridiculously uptight career women who learns to loosen up and become a better, more well-rounded human being as a result of her interaction with a handsome, masculine rogue who sweeps her off her feet. It's straight out of 1984 and Romancing the Stone.

This is all true...but as a Whedon fan I think he is throwing far too many stones lately since besides making a rather mediocre film (AoU), it also relied on cliché and borderline offensive stereotypes for its strongest female character with Black Widow becoming a damsel in distress for much of the third act, captured by the villain (who literally keeps her alive just so he can monologue and explain his plan to her) for her would-be boyfriend to rescue. Also, the "beauty and the beast" angle between Banner and Scarlett is not exactly profoundly original for Whedon or many other male writers either these days.

 

[DACrowe]

I must admit that although I do have problems unrelated to nostalgia that make me dislike the movie, I will admit that I just don't feel like a jurassic Park movie should ever be made without the original cast. Like the poster above me said, I grew up with Grant, ellie etc. So I miss those characters. Especially considering this sequel took place on the original Island it would have been great to see everyone from the original reacting to John hammonds dream finally being realized and how they would react to seeing these new Dinos and being reunited with the original Rexy who saved their lives in the original.

As someone who loves the original film as part of my childhood--leave the past be. There are already probably too many homages to the 1993 film in this one.

I would probably agree if this were the first sequel. But we had two sequels already that ruined Malcolm (made him a boring stiff generic '90s action movie lead) and crapped on the perfect ending to Jurassic Park by having Alan Grant and Ellie Sattler break up solely due to Laura Dern getting blacklisted for appearing on Ellen's coming out episode.

After two bad movies with those three coming back to diminishing results for all three characters, there is a very smart logic of just moving on with new characters.

We do not have an Ian Malcolm or John Hammond in the new cast. But we also are not ruining their characters or arcs from the original film--which it would be for any of them to be working or visiting Jurassic World anyway. Best to look forward with this sort of thing, it is one of the many reasons World is a far better sequel than the other two.

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

I thought it was odd enough for Henry Wu to be working there.

 

[I'm Venom]

It does raise the question of why no one watched the dinosaur at all during that time, how on earth was the fact that it could turn into the Predator a surprise? My assumption was that Wu did it deliberately and hadn't wanted to mention it, because Weyland Yutani and all. Wu was cautious when explaining how and why the Indominus had features like camo and heat stealth. To me, it made perfect sense that the purpose of the Indominus was for military use with the attraction side of it used as a cover up.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

This is all true...but as a Whedon fan I think he is throwing far too many stones lately since besides making a rather mediocre film (AoU), it also relied on cliché and borderline offensive stereotypes for its strongest female character with Black Widow becoming a damsel in distress for much of the third act, captured by the villain (who literally keeps her alive just so he can monologue and explain his plan to her) for her would-be boyfriend to rescue. Also, the "beauty and the beast" angle between Banner and Scarlett is not exactly profoundly original for Whedon or many other male writers either these days.

I pretty much agree with this entire post although I'll put Age of Ultron in the above average category.

 

[Daedalus]

Just came back from it. It was competently done in technical terms: the special effects are great, the actors are all good, the camera work is decent, et al.

The greatest highlights for me are: (1) the callbacks to the original, as in visiting the hall from the first movie, bringing back Dr. Wu, mentioning Hammond`s "spared no expense", et al; and (2) hearing the theme song again. Boy, is that a fantastic theme. I missed John Williams for the rest of the movie though.

Nevertheless, there are some ridiculous things in this movie, at least in my eyes: (1) The characters are beyond cartoonish, it`s completely jarring. Probably the worst offender is Pratt`s Owen Grady, who grabs a fly mid-air, which prompted laughter in my screening. It seems as if Trevorrow was so desperate to make him seem cool that he robbed the character of any story arc. Also cringe-worthy is D`Onofrio`s Hoskins, whose plan actually involved turning dinosaurs into war assets, which is a concept a child would find remotely believable. When the best characters in your movie are the kids, you`ve probably broken a record or two.

I had no use for the dinosaur fight either. Turning them into pets neuters them as threats and makes the whole franchise kind of pointless in hindsight. I could have enjoyed a less in-your-face version of it, with the Mosassaurus eating the Indominus Rex after she had been led to the former`s lair through a trap; but not as it stands now.

 

[Marvolo]

Not idiotic at all. Whedon's criticism remains entirely correct as her arc was still cliche, offensive, and sexist. She is a shrill, ridiculously uptight career women who learns to loosen up and become a better, more well-rounded human being as a result of her interaction with a handsome, masculine rogue who sweeps her off her feet. It's straight out of 1984 and Romancing the Stone.

Yeah it couldn't possibly have anything to do with all those times she nearly died and her traumatic experiences that allowed her to bond with her nephews and wake up and realize ere might be more fulfilling things in life besides work.

Oh wait, that's exactly what it was. Owen isn't the reason she changed. It was her total experiences that day that made her realize life is more than just spreadsheets and numbers. And their isn't a sexist thing about that. Both males and females can have major personality and lifestyle shifts following near death experiences. As someone who was overdosed and nearly died in a hospital 3 years ago I can attest to that. **** like that can wake you up and make you see things very different.

There is more going on here than just Owen but some are hellbent on singling out Owen as the catalyst when he isn't even the catalyst. The near death experiences and events in general are. And of course one of the things she would realize is that being alone with only a job to keep her warm at night isn't all that great. Not all humans crave relationships. But the majority do crave some human connection. And following the events on the island the idea that she might want to at the very least jump in the sack with Owen or that he would want to jump in the sack with her is a perfectly natural human response.

Owen is a handsome single man who she had already been on a date with. And the ice is way past broken So it just makes sense. ****, if I had a chance I'd probably date Owen too. He's cool as ****, capable, nice, and just all around dependable. But I guess Claire should have just stayed jaded and all about her job. After all who doesn't love a complete lack of character progression following such effecting life experiences. After all humans arent effected at all by life experiences.

 

[Val_Zod]

I think anyone who claims they say jurassic world's huge success coming is lying.

Jurassic World is probally the great surprise success story of 2015.

In many ways, its akin to the first Avengers. Both were considered to be huge successes, but not to the extent they actually are.

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

Probably the worst offender is Pratt`s Owen Grady, who grabs a fly mid-air, which prompted laughter in my screening.

I don't get it. I've done that lots. What is funny about it?

 

[Marvolo]

I don't get it. I've done that lots. What is funny about it?

Mere mortals can't do such things.

 

[Daedalus]

I don't get it. I've done that lots. What is funny about it?

The way he did it. We have all caught a mosquito, but that usually involves two hands, a considerable deal of concentration, and many failed attempts before it is actually dead. Doing it closing one hand down while barely looking at the mosquito struck many as way too "look how cool I am", it seems. Going overboard with the Rule of Cool can get you the opposite effect, e.g. Legolas stepping on falling rocks in the last Hobbit movie, which also prompted great laughs in the theatre.

 

[LostSon88]

In many ways, its akin to the first Avengers. Both were considered to be huge successes, but not to the extent they actually are.

I don't know about that. I'm inclined to believe that most people expected the Avengers to be as successful as it was. Frankly, it had to be given the buildup.

Jurassic World on the other hand was completely underestimated where people expected it to do well, but not THIS well...

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I remember, Avengers was not expected to do that well. Alot of people were skeptical of it exploding the way it did because Thor and Cap couldn't even hit 200 million domestically and Iron Man 2 did less than expected.

 

[Val_Zod]

I don't know about that. I'm inclined to believe that most people expected the Avengers to be as successful as it was. Frankly, it had to be given the buildup.

Jurassic World on the other hand was completely underestimated where people expected it to do well, but not THIS well...

No. Everyone predicted Avengers to be the #2 at the box office behind The Dark Knight Rises, and most were going with a 400 380 mill range for the domestic taking. It exceeded expectations just like Jurassic World.

 

[Manofplastic]

just came back from seeing it in IMAX 3D

it was above awesome.

seriously killer awesome. my gawd this was worth it double time.

my nitpicking [spoilers]

Spoiler

The T-Rex deserved more showtime.

The indominus rex was cool, a tad unrealistic but who cares, i liked the camouflage.

T-Rex was dominated way too fast.

The rex being saved by the raptor from a 'finish him' move was a bit strange, and the moment of 'friendship like' contact between rex and raptor was even weirder.

And did owen wave the raptor off that they weren't a pack no more and he sent him to be buddies with the rex ???

i thought there was too much going on at certain moments though.

that did not take away my enjoyment though. i'd watch it a zillion times more.

 

[Manofplastic]

btw, what the hell with these polls. it just got shown less then a week here in this european country and i can't vote anymore because voting time is passed. what the hell.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

btw, what the hell with these polls. it just got shown less then a week here in this european country and i can't vote anymore because voting time is passed. what the hell.

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