Jurassic World - - Part 11

[Parker Wayne]

HOW DARE YOU GUYS FOR DISAGREEING WITH ME?

I'll give that Rex was a more intimidating and better villain than Ultron, and the finaly battle was less bloated than AoU. AoU's characters and directing I felt were better as the whole and that first action set piece to begin AoU was impressive.

I can't even remember any character's names in Jurassic World and AoU took risks with their characters while Jurassic World's character fumbled around being quite incompetent for a park with so many safety parameters to it. Chris Pratt was the best character, and the only one I liked. Bryce Dallas Howard's character just came off as incompetent even though the movie tries to spend the early part of the movie making her seem very poised and strong. Also, the kids I found to be useless addition to the movie (seriously, what's with that Divorce scene?), and that D'onofrio's character was so cookie-cutter he could have had a mustache and top hat to it. We knew nothing about the assistant before she died (I don't need her life-story but give us something if you're gonna kill her off in that manner).

There were worse movies this summer (Fantastic Four, Terminator Genysis, San Andreas, Tomorrowland), but Jurassic World just felt like a movie that if it was an original movie, would probably be trashed a lot more by people.

With that said, it's still better than Lost World and JP3.

 

[ThePhantasm]

The way I look at it is... the characters were pretty cookie-cutter in the first Jurassic Park also. I mean, let's face it, nobody really had a great arc in that movie. It was very simplistic but it served the film, which was meant to be popcorn fun.

Same with Jurassic World. By contrast, AOU bored me. The middle drags, the rest is convoluted. Good portions of it don't make sense, especially Ultron's motivations and reasons for doing stuff. I had a hard time getting involved in AOU's story, whereas JW was pretty straightforward for me. I can also only handle so much of Whedon's dialogue, which was on overdrive in AOU. Not everyone has to have a one-liner or snarky comeback.

I've only seen either film once, but JW made more of an impression on me. Definitely the best of the Jurassic sequels, and pretty much what I wanted from a movie about dinosaurs eating people.

Ant-Man is okay but I'm not sure its really comparable to those mega-blockbusters. And Mad Max is in a league of its own... an amazing action film, hands down.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Kids being involved is a staple of Jurassic Park movies so I don't see the complaints there. I do agree D'Onofrio's character wasn't the best but liked Owen and Claire a lot, and the supporting characters all got their moments to shine.

The divorce part felt random on first watch but after watching the movie again its the start of the brothers bonding again after being so different to each other previously. Afterwards they start becoming like brothers more and more again and they start looking after each other and so on and so forth. This is also after their mother explains to Claire that the older brother is often mean to the younger one. So it doesn't feel random to me anymore that they threw that in.

 

[Victarion]

I liked this one just a little bit more than JP because it seemed like there were more threads to the plot this time around. Really loved what they ended up doing with the I-Rex.

 

[Schlosser85]

Jurassic Park has never been distinguished for three-dimensional characters. Ever.

But Bryce Dallas Howard in JW was a caricature and Vincent D'Onofrio was even worse. He might as well have been twirling his mustache wearing a baseball cap that says "BAD GUY".

 

[Schlosser85]

To me, Jurassic World, Age of Ultron, and Ant-Man were all meh (though I probably enjoyed AoU the most). Kingsman was a lot of fun. But Mad Max: Fury Road just kicked the ass of every other action movie this year, for me.

 

[Snow Queen]

I honestly didn't care for Jurassic World. The characters were bland, plot elements were introduced that were wasted, some characters shouldn't have even been in this movie, some scenes were more stupid than entertaining, and though some of the action set pieces were good (and the last dinosaur battle was great), it didn't really pack the emotional punch.

This movie hinges on nostalgia to sell it and that's fine. You gotta make your money anyway you can. The actual quality of the movie beyond rose-tinted glasses and being nostalgia about the first movie doesn't really leave much to desire.

I honestly thought AoU, Mission Impossible, Mad Max Fury Road, and Ant-Man were all superior movies and had characters and action I could get invested in. This one felt weak.

Oh, and that scene with the assistant dying was hilariously awful. They gave her a straight-up villain death for no reason at all.

Agreed completely. It was one of most bland, flavourless films I've seen all year. There was just nothing to it.

 

[I'm Venom]

Sure, every character was a cliche, but that didn't really bother me. Cliches aren't bad in and of themselves, so if you can make it work, then hey more power to you. I like Owen, and somewhat surprisingly, I liked Claire. I liked that she was intelligent, wasn't ever the damsel in distress, and pretty much saved the day in the end by being brave. I love that they established Owen and Clarie went on a date and it didn't work out... not because she's a businesswoman with no time, but because of a difference. The kids were fine and self-sufficient. Zach's indifference didn't bother me. Not all brothers are close not all teens love going off to visit family, even if said family runs Dino Island. Loved Owen's bond with the raptors and that they explained why he bonded with them - he imprints on them at birth and respects the crap out of the fact that they're raptors. The "discussion" between Owen and the raptor at the end with the little shake of the head was brilliant. Loved seeing Wu as a villain. Point is this film for me had a lot to live up to, and for the most part, it did. I haven't had that much fun in a movie in a long time.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Sure, every character was a cliche, but that didn't really bother me. Cliches aren't bad in and of themselves, so if you can make it work, then hey more power to you. I like Owen, and somewhat surprisingly, I liked Claire. I liked that she was intelligent, wasn't ever the damsel in distress, and pretty much saved the day in the end by being brave. I love that they established Owen and Clarie went on a date and it didn't work out... not because she's a businesswoman with no time, but because of a difference. The kids were fine and self-sufficient. Zach's indifference didn't bother me. Not all brothers are close not all teens love going off to visit family, even if said family runs Dino Island. Loved Owen's bond with the raptors and that they explained why he bonded with them - he imprints on them at birth and respects the crap out of the fact that they're raptors. The "discussion" between Owen and the raptor at the end with the little shake of the head was brilliant. Loved seeing Wu as a villain. Point is this film for me had a lot to live up to, and for the most part, it did. I haven't had that much fun in a movie in a long time.

Totally agreed with all of this, I loved what they did and actually cared about the raptors by the end, I felt sorry for Blue at the end. The movie made me care, something AOU didn't do. There have been better movies this year, but in terms of blockbusters JW ticks all the right boxes for me.

 

[AnneFan]

This movie hinges on nostalgia to sell it and that's fine. You gotta make your money anyway you can. The actual quality of the movie beyond rose-tinted glasses and being nostalgia about the first movie doesn't really leave much to desire.

I actually think they could've pushed the nostalgia trip further than what they did. It's also interesting that for a blockbuster dinosaur movie, save for the pteranodons escaping, it's all rather intimate and contained. Which is just an observation on my part.

It's a decent movie but I still rate TLW above it.

 

[Hunter Rider]

I loved the movie, my third favourite blockbuster of the year! Of course that can change with SPECTRE and TFA still to come, but overall it's been a great year for blockbusters IMO. t:

 

[Lasirius]

I made the mistake of buying that stupid metal case packaging from Best Buy, it's horrible. It comes apart in like 5 different parts. I should've done more research beforehand.

 

[A Necessary Evil]

I thought this was alot more fun than the awesome, but still way overrated Mad Max.

 

[scatterax]

Totally agreed with all of this, I loved what they did and actually cared about the raptors by the end, I felt sorry for Blue at the end. The movie made me care, something AOU didn't do. There have been better movies this year, but in terms of blockbusters JW ticks all the right boxes for me.

if you cared about blue more than a certain blue running man it's not the movie's fault; you heart is just cold blooded.

 

[scatterax]

I made the mistake of buying that stupid metal case packaging from Best Buy, it's horrible. It comes apart in like 5 different parts. I should've done more research beforehand.

did you expect a round steel book?

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I loved the movie, my third favourite blockbuster of the year! Of course that can change with SPECTRE and TFA still to come, but overall it's been a great year for blockbusters IMO. t:

Same here regarding JW, the more I watch it at as well the more I find myself loving it, it just ticks are the right boxes and makes you go through a lot of emotions like the best blockbusters do. Only a few movies so far this year have been better for me.

if you cared about blue more than a certain blue running man it's not the movie's fault; you heart is just cold blooded.

Oh of course, it's never the movies fault when it comes to the MCU .

 

[roach]

To me, Jurassic World, Age of Ultron, and Ant-Man were all meh (though I probably enjoyed AoU the most). Kingsman was a lot of fun. But Mad Max: Fury Road just kicked the ass of every other action movie this year, for me.

I agree with this. I rewatched Jurassic World and Age of Ultron last night and on the second viewing the plot holes became glaring. Mad Max IMO was the best movie of the summer. I was entertained by JW...I was meh with AOU and Ant-man actually bored me. I wish Marvel would move away from their formula.

 

[Doctor Jones]

I think formula is fine it's just got to be executed in a way that redresses it to make it feel fresh and interesting. Marvel has a formula but it falls in that category of doing new and interesting stuff on top of it and make good movies that fall in line with their vision, something no one has done yet and for good reason. It's not easy. Jurassic World is filled to the brim with cliches but unlike Marvel's films, they just weren't executed very well. To the point where that's where they felt like: cliches. Jurassic Park doesn't have the most in depth characters ever, but they are executed in such a way where the performances and how they were written and directed make them endearing to audiences for over 20 years. JW, not so much. I don't think we'll be getting an Owen Grady trippy song remix in 20 years off of this film.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I have to disagree, Marvel's formula gets tiresome sometimes and it's why they haven't made a movie yet that has truly broke the mold, they are very consistent, and have made some very good movies, but their formula is stopping them from making truly great ones IMO. And unfortunately AOU suffered big time because of that formula, the movie had no emotion to it, the were no stakes and Ultron as a villain was a big let down and not a threat at all. These were all things JW got right for me in comparison that's why I enjoyed it and continue to enjoy it so much more than AOU.

 

[-Arya-]

Jurassic World was a fun time at the theater but nothing more than that imo. I have virtually no desire to see it again anytime soon.

 

[Doctor Jones]

I have to disagree, Marvel's formula gets tiresome sometimes and it's why they haven't made a movie yet that has truly broke the mold, they are very consistent, and have made some very good movies, but their formula is stopping them from making truly great ones IMO. And unfortunately AOU suffered big time because of that formula, the movie had no emotion to it, the were no stakes and Ultron as a villain was a big let down and not a threat at all. These were all things JW got right for me in comparison that's why I enjoyed it and continue to enjoy it so much more than AOU.

I don't think they're concerned with breaking the mold. They're concerned with making consistently high quality films to suit their overall vision. And that's what every film should do. People who make great films don't hope to break the mold, they just try to make a good movie and the audience controls that outcome. And their movies have succeeded off of it. That cannot be denied. How they do it is not preferable to you which is fine, but it's unfair to criticize on those terms. Audiences love them. They've been doing something right for years now so why change it? It shows there is not one way to make a great film. It's a balancing act that people seem to overlook and give less credit to.

 

[terry78]

So how does the flick look in extreme HD or 4K or whatever the **** you're using? ILM is like one of the few studios where the CG doesn't have that bad habit of standing out when the movie is viewed on a really high def screen.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I don't think they're concerned with breaking the mold. They're concerned with making consistently high quality films to suit their overall vision. And that's what every film should do. People who make great films don't hope to break the mold, they just try to make a good movie and the audience controls that outcome. And their movies have succeeded off of it. That cannot be denied. How they do it is not preferable to you which is fine, but it's unfair to criticize on those terms. Audiences love them. They've been doing something right for years now so why change it? It shows there is not one way to make a great film. It's a balancing act that people seem to overlook and give less credit to.

But shouldn't they aim to make better movies with each try? They should IMO, and TDW and IM3 were average at best so I wouldn't say high quality has been achieved with all of their movies. In fairness, they haven't made a bad movie yet, but they haven't made a truly great one either. Yes they are very successful, but AOU's BO dropped from the first movie and the home sales haven't been great either compared to the first. The drop in quality is a reason for that IMO.

No one is asking for drastic changes, but toning down the humour in serious moments and giving us better villains could improve their movies, a lot, in some cases.

 

[Loki882]

And shouldn't JW have done the same? Seriously, ever single point that's people have made about this film. I'll give it credit for one thing, it's not TLW (so I don't actively LOATHE it), but it's not a particularly good film either. Honestly the more that I watch it, the less and less that I care for it. The flaws/stupidity just get more and more apparent on every viewing.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

And shouldn't JW have done the same? Seriously, ever single point that's people have made about this film. I'll give it credit for one thing, it's not TLW (so I don't actively LOATHE it), but it's not a particularly good film either. Honestly the more that I watch it, the less and less that I care for it. The flaws/stupidity just get more and more apparent on every viewing.

I think JW was successful where AOU wasn't though, the humour was good and in the right places, the action was great with real stakes and a villain who was both scary and a big threat, despite not being able to talk. The story had emotion to it as well. I have been the opposite with JW, the more I watch it the more I have enjoyed it.