Justice League Justice League - All the Deleted Footage SPOILER Talk - Part 1

[Jumpman]

I wouldnt believe it just yet.

https://www.reddit.com/r/DC_Cinemat...kevin_smith_discusses_the_jl_deleted/dqmlfew/

Basically that leak borrowed heavily from UltraCal's leak, and added some of hiw own fanfic parts. Most of those stuff were denied by UltraCal and LDN_Film, actual legit people.

I'm sorry if I'm being a spoilsport, but I think its hurtful to believe some lies like this, because this is a mis-representation of what the movie was.

So the audience member on the podcast who confirmed what Smith read lied?

 

[Micromind]

I wouldnt believe it just yet.

https://www.reddit.com/r/DC_Cinemat...kevin_smith_discusses_the_jl_deleted/dqmlfew/

Basically that leak borrowed heavily from UltraCal's leak, and added some of hiw own fanfic parts. Most of those stuff were denied by UltraCal and LDN_Film, actual legit people.

I'm sorry if I'm being a spoilsport, but I think its hurtful to believe some lies like this, because this is a mis-representation of what the movie was.

Agreed.

 

[idiot09]

So the audience member on the podcast who confirmed what Smith read lied?

I think that random reddit user lied, but that lie is based on some truths(UltraCal's leak at ResetEra). Either she is saying some of it is true, which is plausible, or she is lying...

Because we know LDN_Film and UltraCal are legit. So is Ascended on reddit.

 

[TheRedWraith]

Word on the street is 80%.

That is more than enough for me to want them to just release it as is.

 

[WoodyROM]

Maybe. I wouldn't be surprised if they actually calculated how much was Snyder so that they could technically say he was responsible for more than 50%. I can imagine certain scenes being left in, like the Everybody Knows montage, just to beef up the Snyder scenes because the Everybody Knows scene didn't otherwise feel like it fit with the movie we wound up getting.

I'll tell you, when I saw that sequence, I actually thought they were going to do it, give us a close enough approximation of Snyder's movie. Boy, was I wrong .

Dude, I went through the same thing. After the music and openings scenes I was thinking it was going to be a train wreck. Then that montage started and I was like "could it be? Is this still Zack's film???" A small ray of sunlight beamed into the theater as the clouds began to roll away. I caught a glimpse of a rainbow forming atop the screen...

Then it all went to ****.

 

[Micromind]

Missed this.

 

[idiot09]

http://www.manofsteelanswers.com/dont-be-as-gullible-as-kevin-smith/

 

[Micromind]

I think WB will release an Extended Cut, with those scenes shot by Snyder which don't require vfx shots, it is small consolation but I will take it.

 

[Jumpman]

http://www.manofsteelanswers.com/dont-be-as-gullible-as-kevin-smith/

Don’t buy this for a second.

Again, even if she’s just confirm some things while not others, WHY WOULD SHE LIE ON THE FLY LIKE THAT?!

 

[idiot09]

Don’t buy this for a second.

Again, even if she’s just confirm some things while not others, WHY WOULD SHE LIE ON THE FLY LIKE THAT?!

I have no idea who that lady is, or whether she is telling the truth or lying. I just know that plot leak came from u/redorbluepill, and he had a lot of stuff wrong in that leak. So I just dont trust it. However that doesnt mean that ALL of it is false, he could have just had a lot of educated guesses.

 

[Jumpman]

I have no idea who that lady is, or whether she is telling the truth or lying. I just know that plot leak came from u/redorbluepill, and he had a lot of stuff wrong in that leak. So I just dont trust it. However that doesnt mean that ALL of it is false, he could have just had a lot of educated guesses.

I didn't trust the leak either until I re-read it again, which it obviously got changed from how it was originally, and yet whoever this lady is, she basically confirmed a portion of what Smith read as legit. On top of that, there's another audience member that got called out for nodding at some of the stuff Smith was reading if you listen to the podcast again. So, technically, that's two people confirming portions of what Smith was reading.

And again, this is all out of the blue when you listen to the podcast. They have no idea Smith was going to read that (maybe I'm naive and the questions were pre-determined but it sure didn't feel that way.)

 

[Gu3ree]

How close do you think we are now to getting Snyder's cut? I really don't want anything half-assed by Warner Bros, that gives us just a few of the scenes, but without FX. No thank you. If they're going to release the extended cut or Snyder's version--whichever you want to call it--then they give us the entire cut. People will know they're being cheated if they find out the additional scenes are only 6 minutes long.

But as we continue to discuss these deleted scenes, I just wanted to add...

And assuming that these were confirmed...Cyborg dying...I really don't like that at all. Unless he does revived at the end, or the film leaves us a hint that he'll be restored after the movie ends, then I guess I'd be okay with that...ish? I mean I don't like it, but if it works for the story then, okay, that is unless of course Cyborg does or will get restored.

But if Cyborg is dead by the final battle, then I'd worry about not seeing the Justice League all posed together at the end in a wide shot, like we got in the movie, but if he is dead by then, then what's the point?

We wouldn't be seeing all 6 of members together in one frame if Cyborg dies. That just wouldn't be good. Unless there were more scenes that occurred earlier in the battle, and if it showed all 6 members together in one shot, then maybe I'd be able to pass.

We really only got one shot of the Justice League together in the whole movie. There were other shots however, but without Superman obviously.

So on that scene described where Steppenwolf talks to Superman convincing him to rule the Apokolips, before seeing a vision of the future, that would be interesting to see, but it seems Warner Bros may have a point about deleting that scene.

That would make the audience worry what Superman is worried about, that he will turn loose against Earth, I mean, if the movie ends leaving us with that thought in our minds, that Superman will potentially turn evil, that might change the entire moral of the story.

 

[Herolee10]

The interesting thing about all of this is that Superman will probably be the only comic book character to have gone through the experience not once, but two times when it comes to being in a film where the Directors originally in charge were controversially removed by the higher executives in order to bring on another Director who could bring a more comedic and lighter tone to the film. Furthermore both films (Superman 2 and Justice League) also share the unfortunate fate of where it's very obvious to see on what was re-shot as the appearance of their actors are noticeably different between the takes filmed by the two different directors.

 

[Consona]

Proceed at your own risk, since this will make you totally hate WB.

https://screenrant.com/justice-league-darker-test-screen-snyder-cut/

There’s also a number of extended scenes that flesh out backstory for The Flash, Cyborg, and Aquaman – including a significant amount of Atlantis worldbuilding – and tie back to the events of Man of Steel and Batman v Superman, including references to the Knightmare sequence and the incorporation of The Codex in Superman’s resurrection (as we predicted prior to the movie’s release). Batman is also remorseful over his darker days and treatment of Superman, behaving in a much less jokey way, even going on a suicide mission at the end, believing he needs to sacrifice himself to atone for becoming a murderer and trying to kill the Man of Steel.

This could have been so f***ing dark and emotional and awesome and spectacular. I'm speechless.

 

[GothamBat]

Proceed at your own risk, since this will make you totally hate WB.

https://screenrant.com/justice-league-darker-test-screen-snyder-cut/



This could have been so f***ing dark and emotional and awesome and spectacular. I'm speechless.

I really wanted to see Batman address his murderous ways. I was so waiting for it in the months before JLs release when it was confirmed that would be addressed.

 

[Micromind]

Proceed at your own risk, since this will make you totally hate WB.

https://screenrant.com/justice-league-darker-test-screen-snyder-cut/



This could have been so f***ing dark and emotional and awesome and spectacular. I'm speechless.

Great !! More Click-bait articles from ScreenRant.

I don't believe it.

And, it was disproved.

http://www.manofsteelanswers.com/dont-be-as-gullible-as-kevin-smith/

 

[GothamBat]

we know the scene of the league all standing together was in principal photography.. I think they reshot it literally just to make sure everyone was smiling and looked serene. Whereas in the original version they were all stoic and epic. (except for Flash smiling dorkily)

http://****************.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/BTS12.jpg

 

[elgaz]

I doubt very much that Snyder's scenes would have transformed Justice League, or saved it from a critical mauling and underwhelming box office.

I do believe however that they would have enabled the film to be consistent - tonally, aesthetically - and added a level of drama which I feel the film is lacking due to WB allowing Whedon to make it lighter and less serious, despite the world-ending subject of the storyline. As such, I think that I would have much more respect for a Snyder version of the film, though obviously I'd have to see a cut to confirm that. BvS gets a lot of hate but I love it for his single-mindedness and diverting from the typical representations of these characters.

JL went the opposite way. What we got was entertaining for what it is, but completely failed to live up to the potential of bringing DC's biggest heroes together in a $300m blockbuster.

 

[Consona]

Great !! More Click-bait articles from ScreenRant.

I don't believe it.

And, it was disproved.

Cannot find any clarification about the Cyborg's story. Is there any?

 

[Consona]

Ok, I don't know what's true, but the stuff Kevin Smith reads makes much more sense...

Spoiler

like JL trying to resurrect Superman before Steppenwolf can do it with motherboxes, trying to prevent the evil Superman from happening, plus his resurrection is tied to the Codex, so there's continuity there, etc.

Spoiler

Scene where Superman goes to Alfred to take his suits. It's basically in the trailer.

Spoiler

Bruce saying to WW how nothing can justify what he was doing in BvS

Don't tell me it's all a hoax.

 

[elgaz]

Ok, I don't know what's true, but the stuff Kevin Smith reads makes much more sense...

Spoiler

like JL trying to resurrect Superman before Steppenwolf can do it with motherboxes, trying to prevent the evil Superman from happening, plus his resurrection is tied to the Codex, so there's continuity there, etc.

Spoiler

Scene where Superman goes to Alfred to take his suits. It's basically in the trailer.

Spoiler

Bruce saying to WW how nothing can justify what he was doing in BvS

Don't tell me it's all a hoax.

I don't think its a hoax. Love or loathe Kevin Smith, he does love his superheroes and he seems to have had some access/clout with WB going by previous things he's tweeted and let out, like seeing the new Batsuit before many others.

The more I read about the things WB changed or deleted, the more I think they have really shot themselves in the foot.

 

[kguillou]

Question, and pardon my ignorance of these things but when you are chosen to watch a test screening of one of these movies and sign the NDA, are you not allowed to ever talk about what you saw? I'm asking because I'm surprised we're not hearing more from people who did see early cuts of this film from early test screenings and how their versions differed from the final product. Or maybe those people just don't care to share their thoughts online lol

 

[GothamBat]

Question, and pardon my ignorance of these things but when you are chosen to watch a test screening of one of these movies and sign the NDA, are you not allowed to ever talk about what you saw? I'm asking because I'm surprised we're not hearing more from people who did see early cuts of this film from early test screenings and how their versions differed from the final product. Or maybe those people just don't care to share their thoughts online lol

well yeah.. That's what an NDA is for. It's to make it so you can't talk about what you saw. The people who violate them get in trouble for it.

 

[kguillou]

Ooohhhh ok. I assumed it only meant you werent allowed to talk about it prior to the film's release. Damn, so you cant ever ever mention what saw? Thats crazy.

 

[GothamBat]

Oh ok. I assumed it only meant you werent allowed to talk about it prior to the film's release. Damn, so you cant ever ever mention what saw? Thats crazy.

That's called an embargo. And yeah it sucks but I can't blame them. Most people dismiss people who make these claims. I wouldn't want to risk getting in legal trouble just to have everyone scoff at and doubt me like a lot of us did with vieweranon. It wouldn't be worth it. Not that doubting or dismissing people who claim to have insider info is unfounded. If anything it makes sense given how many fakes there are. So it's a lose-lose all around.