Justice League Justice League Box Office Prediction - Part 8

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[KalvinEllis]

While it hurts me as a DC fan to see these characters reputations destroyed by WB, and make no mistake, that IS what's happening here, it gives me great pleasure to see Marvel snapping their fingers and basically wishing away the DCEU in the box office. Putting those that would tarnish the DC brand in their place. Marvel fights for DC more than WB ever did.

To me that's the biggest issue in this situation. It's not only that WB isn't able to produce successful franchises out of the DC universe, but they are continuously devaluing and destroying entire character brands in the process. Brands that have been around for 70+ years do not deserve that.

 

[Kanon]

They are not actually destroying, it's just that it will take some years to prepare people for a "proper" Superman and JL. In some years, it will be the batman begins situation, people are gonna be hungry for a good take on the characters after the then far behind debacle.

 

[Iceman]

They are not actually destroying, it's just that it will take some years to prepare people for a "proper" Superman and JL. In some years, it will be the batman begins situation, people are gonna be hungry for a good take on the characters after the then far behind debacle.

Yeah, things can change very quickly when you start making top quality films again. The fans all want to love these properties and are gunshy for now but give them a few great films and they'll be back. Removing the stigma with the GA for characters who don't have a history is a bit more difficult though as they don't have the same underlying loyalty.

 

[Kanon]

Yeah, things can change very quickly when you start making top quality films again. The fans all want to love these properties and are gunshy for now but give them a few great films and they'll be back. Removing the stigma with the GA for characters who don't have a history is a bit more difficult though as they don't have the same underlying loyalty.

Yeah, and as with Batman Begins, they should be prepared for modest box office at first, and good critical reception paying up in home video and the sequels.

 

[Jekecy]

They are not actually destroying, it's just that it will take some years to prepare people for a "proper" Superman and JL. In some years, it will be the batman begins situation, people are gonna be hungry for a good take on the characters after the then far behind debacle.

But they’re not exactly giving it time for people to get that itch back. We’re in the midst of a superhero boon and WB aren’t just going to let that pass them. They’ll keep churning these out until it’s not worth it. That’s the worry of devaluing their IPs in a short window of time.

 

[Erzengel]

But even the Batman Begins comparison needs a TDK, so in the end is it a 2 step process?

Do you need a good Superman movie followed by a stellar Superman movie? Wonder Woman to JL didn't help JL. Maybe WW to WW2 may.

 

[FunkMiller]

But they’re not exactly giving it time for people to get that itch back. We’re in the midst of a superhero boon and WB aren’t just going to let that pass them. They’ll keep churning these out until it’s not worth it. That’s the worry of devaluing their IPs in a short window of time.

This is my fear. The greedy baboons at WB won’t be able to resist the lure of a quick dollar from all us comic book nerds, and so we’ll keep getting awful DC movies. They’ll never rival Marvel, but they’ll earn their bonuses... which is all that matters to them.

 

[Kanon]

But even the Batman Begins comparison needs a TDK, so in the end is it a 2 step process?

Do you need a good Superman movie followed by a stellar Superman movie? Wonder Woman to JL didn't help JL. Maybe WW to WW2 may.

You need a good Superman movie (that likely won't make a lot of money cause audiences are wary), to regain trust, and expect in the long run (the sequel) get the real results (like TDK). As others have said, I doubt WB is willing to commit to that kind of investment, and they'll try to get the same result in the shortest possible time (wich is what they did with JL, they wanted Avengers without building to it, taking shortcuts, etc)

 

[Limonade]

You need a good Superman movie (that likely won't make a lot of money cause audiences are wary), to regain trust, and expect in the long run (the sequel) get the real results (like TDK). As others have said, I doubt WB is willing to commit to that kind of investment, and they'll try to get the same result in the shortest possible time (wich is what they did with JL, they wanted Avengers without building to it, taking shortcuts, etc)

I feel like they are just starting to, or may have already, realized that.

That slate that Kevin Tsujihara gave out at SDCC, a while back, was a mistake.

 

[Mandon Knight]

I feel like they are just starting to, or may have already, realized that.

That slate that Kevin Tsujihara gave out at SDCC, a while back, was a mistake.

When the left hand doesn't know what the right is doing, this is the problem.

 

[GreenKToo]

Best to stick to good/great solo films for now.
IF they can get a few out that get 600/650 mill, leaves the audience hungering for more, THEN do the team up film.

I always thought they were putting the cart before the horse, but I dared believed they knew best and my fear was unwarranted. Silly me.

 

[JerseyJoker]

Problem is that Studios have to think big picture, you cant just own DC and just focus one film at a time, because this isn't DC studios, its WB. They have to know what their year end goals will be how much they can make in profit.

I think tho, thats the key for DC. One movie at a time. Not saying, one movie at a time to lead to a big team up, just focus one at a time.

Aquaman is a solid hit, critically and box office, you roll that into hyping up Shazam. Shazam does a little or the same, you keep it rolling until you get to a huge movie like WW2. And from there you just pace yourself to not flood the market the fans and general audience thinking that a DC release will be something negative.

 

[KalvinEllis]

Crazy that IW would make more money in less than a week than BvS did in its entire run. Not saying this in a mocking fashion, I'm honestly amazed by it.

 

[Iceman]

Yeah, and as with Batman Begins, they should be prepared for modest box office at first, and good critical reception paying up in home video and the sequels.

Exactly. However good the first really good film is, its hype will be stained by what came before. But after a good film has been through the full process down to being aired on TV and word of mouth filtering out, viewers minds are open again to something good for next time and if good enough like TDK, it can explode even after it seeming like the end just 2 films before.

 

[Iceman]

But even the Batman Begins comparison needs a TDK, so in the end is it a 2 step process?

Do you need a good Superman movie followed by a stellar Superman movie? Wonder Woman to JL didn't help JL. Maybe WW to WW2 may.

I think it is a 2 step process when you're trying to return from the abyss.

 

[Captain Marvel]

It more than likely cost the studio money. A movie typically needs to make back 2-3 times its production budget just to break even. If we split the difference and say the multiplier is 2.5 (Not unfair, given that the marketing budget was likely huge), then Justice League needed $750 million just to break even, so it lost the studio a little over $90 million. Even with a 2x multiplier, best case, they would've made just $57 million. But worst case, with a 3x multiplier? That's a $240 million loss. So the odds that they lost a significant amount of money are pretty good.

 

[Vaibow]

I don't see how they can't just sit down and mock up a chart with key players. Map out an out line of characters they want to portray and how each story unfolds. Then hire directors to add their style and vision to the story.

It won't be too hard to ignore other films or acknowledge them - comics do that weekly.