Justice League Justice League Box Office Prediction - Part 6

[honestbharani]

The higher the OW the lesser your multiplier is likely to be, that is just basic math. Now if you have a very high OW AND still pull in good numbers, it shows your movie has legs coz Occum's Razor would suggest most of the interested people have already seen the movie OW and it is just repeat audience post that. But when the OW is not so much higher, it could well mean some people juz decided to check it out later during its run. So its quite possible that a number of the one time viewers are checking out JL later while they checked out CW OW.

 

[Strong Browman]

The higher the OW the lesser your multiplier is likely to be, that is just basic math. Now if you have a very high OW AND still pull in good numbers, it shows your movie has legs coz Occum's Razor would suggest most of the interested people have already seen the movie OW and it is just repeat audience post that. But when the OW is not so much higher, it could well mean some people juz decided to check it out later during its run. So its quite possible that a number of the one time viewers are checking out JL later while they checked out CW OW.

Yeah but I pointed out movies that had similar openings to JL and they all have pretty much the same legs. Not only that but they were considered much better movies too, if Logan and Days of Future Past are really that much better than JL it should reflect in their multipliers.

And movies with ow's on par with CW also held better, The Avengers and AOU, The Force Awakens, Rogue One, Jurassic World, The Dark Knight and The Dark Knight Rises, Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows part 2 and even Iron Man 3.

JL opened much bigger than fellow despised movie Green Lantern ($53m ow $116m dom) and that finished with a much worse 2.1x. No matter how big or small JL opened if it was considered that bad it should've had GL, BvS level horrible legs.

I get that a lot of times the bigger a movie opens the worse it's legs will be but with the critical acclaim CW got you'd think it would have better holds than something like IM3.

 

[honestbharani]

I actually enjoyed JL more than I thought I would, so I am with you. I do believe movie had major issues but as a fun 2 hour time pass activity, I can think of a lot worse. So, in a way I am glad the legs of this movie turned out to be average and not as poor some other movies, esp. DECU movies, tended to be. I think the movie was overall, average, rather than poor and I am glad the multiplier is in the same range. AFAIC, Whedon and WB did pull off the salvage to a certain, very limited, extent.

 

[Strong Browman]

I actually enjoyed JL more than I thought I would, so I am with you. I do believe movie had major issues but as a fun 2 hour time pass activity, I can think of a lot worse. So, in a way I am glad the legs of this movie turned out to be average and not as poor some other movies, esp. DECU movies, tended to be. I think the movie was overall, average, rather than poor and I am glad the multiplier is in the same range. AFAIC, Whedon and WB did pull off the salvage to a certain, very limited, extent.

Me too, I was almost afraid to see it after I heard what people thought of it but when I did I thought it was a decent movie that faults and all was fun to watch. So while the movies box office total is no doubt a huge disappointment, on the bright side it's a step in the right direction in terms of audience reception.

If BvS (at least the theater version, I liked the UE a lot) had at least been a decent, fun movie it would've made at least $1b, no doubt.

 

[GreenKToo]

This movie was awful. Worse than BvS, and that's saying a lot... It kind of deserves to be this colossal failure.

I didn't hate it, I liked it a little more than BvS. The thing is tho, it failed because it has yet again divided everyone.
If I live to be a 100, i'll always be amazed at how they so utterly screwed up not one, but two films that should have easily made a billion.

It was all there, all lain out for them like the ingredients of a cake.
All they had to do was follow the recipe.

 

[Playco Armboy]

Should have broken $400 million opening weekend easily

Can you stop trolling?

 

[GreenKToo]

Should have broken $400 million opening weekend easily

you have either lost your mind, or, you're the worst troll ever. It's probably somewhere in the middle.

 

[cristianegan]

Can you stop trolling?

2012's The Avengers with uunknown characters opened to $207.4 millions. 2017's Justice League with the most iconic characters should have made twice that number without breaking a sweat.

 

[Iceman]

2012's The Avengers with uunknown characters opened to $207.4 millions. 2017's Justice League with the most iconic characters should have made twice that number without breaking a sweat.

Opening weekend is limited by capacity. I'm not sure what the maximum opening weekend would be at the moment if a film sold out every seat available.

 

[The Joker]

Can you stop trolling?

How is that trolling?

 

[Playco Armboy]

How is that trolling?

Do you need me to spell it out to you?

 

[The Joker]

Do you need me to spell it out to you?

 

[Playco Armboy]

Star Wars: The Force Awakens was the most anticipated film of all time, and even it pulled in less than $250 million in its opening weekend.

There are also only a limited number of theatres in North America. Even a $300 million opening is completely impossible.

The fact that people are unaware of this in a box office thread and somehow think posting like christanegan isn't trolling, is eyebrow-raising.

 

[The Joker]

Star Wars: The Force Awakens was the most anticipated film of all time, and even it pulled in less than $250 million in its opening weekend.

There are also only a limited number of theatres in North America. Even a $300 million opening is completely impossible.

He didn't mention anything about Star Wars; http://forums.superherohype.com/showpost.php?p=36156305&postcount=983

The fact that people are unaware of this in a box office thread and somehow think posting like christanegan isn't trolling, is eyebrow-raising.

If you really think those comments are trolling then report his posts to the moderators.

 

[cristianegan]

Star Wars: The Force Awakens was the most anticipated film of all time, and even it pulled in less than $250 million in its opening weekend.

There are also only a limited number of theatres in North America. Even a $300 million opening is completely impossible.

The fact that people are unaware of this in a box office thread and somehow think posting like christanegan isn't trolling, is eyebrow-raising.

It is more than possible. Please refer to this post:

http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?p=36146509&highlight=#post36146509

 

[Playco Armboy]

He didn't mention anything about Star Wars; http://forums.superherohype.com/showpost.php?p=36156305&postcount=983

You should reread my post if that's what you took away from it. Lordy, where has reading comprehension gone.

If you really think those comments are trolling then report his posts to the moderators.

I'm good, it's not that serious.

 

[kguillou]

Also I think we need to take a hard look at the "inconicity" of some of these characters. Oustide of Batman, did any of these characters hold much of a cache with the general public? Sure, some of them they were KNOWN. Everyone knows Superman but Superman's also had decades worth of struggling to connect with the popular zeitgeist. Wonder Woman. Yeah everyone knows Wonder Woman, everyone knows what the costume looks like but did people really care for the character before Gal and Patty struck gold with her? Her own comic books havent even sold well in decades. Flash? Aquaman? CYBORG? Do these characters really hold any more weight than Captain America, Thor, Hulk and Ironman did circa 2008?

 

[The Joker]

You should reread my post if that's what you took away from it. Lordy, where has reading comprehension gone.

I read your post clearly the first time. If what I read is not what you meant, then your poor communication skills are to blame.

I'm good, it's not that serious.

Serious enough for you to complain about it here. Or maybe you know that the moderator's won't see it as trolling because it's not.

Either way, his point was valid. Which is probably why you have been ignoring his subsequent posts in response to you. It's that chip on your shoulder that's your real problem. Not his posts.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

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[Tacit Ronin]

Also I think we need to take a hard look at the "inconicity" of some of these characters. Oustide of Batman, did any of these characters hold much of a cache with the general public? Sure, some of them they were KNOWN. Everyone knows Superman but Superman's also had decades worth of struggling to connect with the popular zeitgeist. Wonder Woman. Yeah everyone knows Wonder Woman, everyone knows what the costume looks like but did people really care for the character before Gal and Patty struck gold with her? Her own comic books havent even sold well in decades. Flash? Aquaman? CYBORG? Do these characters really hold any more weight than Captain America, Thor, Hulk and Ironman did circa 2008?

Wonder Woman's iconicity definitely aided in its massive domestic turnout. I dont think a c list female hero would've cleared 400 million even if the movie was a masterpiece.

 

[OzzMosiz]

2012's The Avengers with uunknown characters opened to $207.4 millions. 2017's Justice League with the most iconic characters should have made twice that number without breaking a sweat.

They weren't unknown though. Iron Man had an amazing debut in 2008 (and a lesser sequel). Everyone knew who the Hulk was. Capt America and Thor had decent origin films too and Loki was generally liked universally.

 

[Spider-jedi]

for a movie to make 400 million OW will be crazy. First off, yes the JL has the more icon characters but i think you are overestimating people's love for these guys. Even if the movie was the best thing since ever, it would mostly still make the somewhere between star wars and avengers. not everyone is into superman, batman and the others like you think.

 

[InCali]

Should have broken $400 million opening weekend easily

I would love to know what you have for breakfast, lunch and dinner. Are they all related compounds or do you like to mix things up?

 

[InCali]

for a movie to make 400 million OW will be crazy. First off, yes the JL has the more icon characters but i think you are overestimating people's love for these guys. Even if the movie was the best thing since ever, it would mostly still make the somewhere between star wars and avengers. not everyone is into superman, batman and the others like you think.

Star Wars is bigger than any CBM or group of characters. Enough said?

 

[Creo]

Also I think we need to take a hard look at the "inconicity" of some of these characters. Oustide of Batman, did any of these characters hold much of a cache with the general public? Sure, some of them they were KNOWN. Everyone knows Superman but Superman's also had decades worth of struggling to connect with the popular zeitgeist. Wonder Woman. Yeah everyone knows Wonder Woman, everyone knows what the costume looks like but did people really care for the character before Gal and Patty struck gold with her? Her own comic books havent even sold well in decades. Flash? Aquaman? CYBORG? Do these characters really hold any more weight than Captain America, Thor, Hulk and Ironman did circa 2008?

I agree completely. At this time, I do not think any characters besides possibly Batman, are more popular than the majority of Marvel characters at have in the movies.

It's been discussed in this thread before, but iconography doesn't necessarily translate to people showing up for movies either. Hercules, Dracula, Frankenstein, and others are all hugely iconic, but none of their movies have ever done record setting box office runs. So the iconography of Superman and Wonder Woman didn't necessarily mean anything, especially when the movie is mediocre or bad.