Karate Master claims he can beat any fighter in the world

[knowsbleed]

That doesn't have anything to do with his awesomeness.

 

[ShadowBoxing]

That doesn't have anything to do with his awesomeness.

No, but it certainly points to the fact that he may be very overrated.

 

[knowsbleed]

Bah...he's a legend for a reason.

 

[dpm07]

Bah...he's a legend for a reason.

He's a legend because the marketing genius behind him has made him a figure of legend in the Martial Arts. He was a charasmatic individual that broke many stereotypes with Asians. That does not mean he was better than professional fighters. He is also looked on in a greater light because of the tragedy associated with his death and his relatively young age. Furthermore, out of respect to the family, many people have perpetuated the myth of Bruce Lee. That however, does not mean that in all actuality he was the best, or that he could have beaten world ranked professional fighters. Remember to look at the big picture and approach things from an intellectual standpoint versus blatantly saying he could beat so and so.

These factors do not make him greater than anyone before or after him. It's one thing to perform great acting and have the physicality to do it on-screen. It is another to say that a person could be other professional fighters based on our own narrow view of what a great fighter is or should be.

 

[R0rschach]

You guys need to go and see some KIMBO SLICE fights on you tube.

 

[Spade]

I find bullshido to be all around funny...it's at least fortunate that these guys can live with the shame than finding themselves learning firsthand how ineffectual their martial art skills are in a life-or-death struggle.

 

[sithgoblin]

There was a whole chapter in the book I got about stuff like that. It suggested spitting in the guys face, insulting his mother or close relative, screaming in [one of] his ears, biting him, and even tickeling as a way to disorient him during a fight (giving situations for each). It was pretty wild, but all very, very practical when you thought about it.

The drawback is there doesn't seem to be too many Krav Maga schools here in the United States...at least not in my area.

Sounds interesting, what book would that be?

 

[kane9321]

buahahahaahah

 

[zanos]

Gotta love some Martial Artist....I've made open chalenges but never stated I can beat every fighter in the world.

I'm a Wing Chun Practioner, have been for 10 years and been in MA for a full 20 years. I've made challenges, last one was too a boxer who said he was better fighter than me....so I took him up on the offer and ended up choking him out with Jujitsu rather than using any part of Wing Chun.t:


I'm now looking for a Greco-Roman Wrestler to teach me how to Wrestle...to improve my ground fighting skills.

That kind of defeats the whole point of your practicing Wing Chun for the last 10 years. Did you not feel confident you could beat him using just Wing Chun techniques? I personally feel any boxer could destroy a Wing Chun practitioner any day of the week. Not only are boxing techniques practical in a real stand up fight because they actually fight/spar all the time as part of their training. Actual fighting just about never takes place in a Kung Fu class. Hence no one ever acquires the real skills to fight with it in real life. All they do is practice their forms all day long and look pretty. That'll work real well when someone is pummelling you.

 

[Bill]

All you "fight fair" types better pray you don't decide to f**k with me or someone like me some day. I'm a pretty peaceful guy but if you bring it to me, I will do everything I possibly can to maim the hell out you. Period. Don't want to get seriously hurt? Don't f**k with me. Pretty simple.

jag

LOL, that's me. If I get pushed to the point where I feel I have to defend myself, that means it's life or death and not for mere ego or my pride was hurt, and I'll be more apt to try to kill you than looking to get into a shoving match.

Otherwise, take the peaceful exit. Going to jail or worse isn't worth pride or ego.

 

[November Rain]

funny stuff....

 

[Dorian Gray]

That kind of defeats the whole point of your practicing Wing Chun for the last 10 years. Did you not feel confident you could beat him using just Wing Chun techniques? I personally feel any boxer could destroy a Wing Chun practitioner any day of the week. Not only are boxing techniques practical in a real stand up fight because they actually fight/spar all the time as part of their training. Actual fighting just about never takes place in a Kung Fu class. Hence no one ever acquires the real skills to fight with it in real life. All they do is practice their forms all day long and look pretty. That'll work real well when someone is pummelling you.

Ok, then roll up on an experienced Wing Chun fighter and find out how ineffective it is..

...but to get to your question no it doesn't make me feel "superior" or "confident"(I'm already confident in my abilities but not overconfident). All it did for me was give me a training experience. Yet it was in a ring, so no strikes to the weak points eyes, groin, throat, and knees. If it were a real fight I would have hit his groin and eyes at the first opportunity I got.

I've boxed, even have my golden gloves. I do find it to be very ineffective outside the ring in a real life situation..to an extent you may know how to throw a punch but boxing has regulations and rules and a form so it's limited because it falls in the category of "fair fighting" which as far as I go...I do not fight fair.



EDIT: and it's not the whole point of my training for the past 10 years and over all 20. Thing like this happen among fighters they challenge one another, It happens.

 

[Dorian Gray]

Very few from what I understand. Maybe none.

From what I understand the only fight that he had that was publicized was his bout with Wong Jack Man.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wong_Jack_Man

 

[Cobblepot]

Fighting fair will get you no where, I worked for immigration and I tell you one thing most deportees don't care the harm they bring you. They bite, spit, skratch or even spitt blood. I've seen the worst, and a kick in the balls does the trick. And these where not people who had to fear for their lives.

 

[ShadowBoxing]

Sounds interesting, what book would that be?

I think the title was just 'Krav Maga'.

 

[ShadowBoxing]

From what I understand the only fight that he had that was publicized was his bout with Wong Jack Man.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wong_Jack_Man

Hmmm, seems questionable. At any rate, I agree with dpm07.

 

[Cobblepot]

Krav Maga is great and will save your ass, not like that karate stuff.

 

[zanos]

Ok, then roll up on an experienced Wing Chun fighter and find out how ineffective it is..

...but to get to your question no it doesn't make me feel "superior" or "confident"(I'm already confident in my abilities but not overconfident). All it did for me was give me a training experience. Yet it was in a ring, so no strikes to the weak points eyes, groin, throat, and knees. If it were a real fight I would have hit his groin and eyes at the first opportunity I got.

I've boxed, even have my golden gloves. I do find it to be very ineffective outside the ring in a real life situation..to an extent you may know how to throw a punch but boxing has regulations and rules and a form so it's limited because it falls in the category of "fair fighting" which as far as I go...I do not fight fair.



EDIT: and it's not the whole point of my training for the past 10 years and over all 20. Thing like this happen among fighters they challenge one another, It happens.

I'm surprised anyone with experience in boxing would say that. I've never boxed but didn't your training enhance your speed, agility, power and accuracy with your punches not to mention the ability to take alot of punches. I never said boxing was the perfect art for street fighting. I realize it has it's limits but shouldn't any experienced boxer be able to take out your average guy in a standup fight within the first few seconds? This should be a given. A guy who studied traditional martial arts isn't going to be so lucky. Heck he'll probably get his ass kicked. t:

 

[ShadowBoxing]

I'm surprised anyone with experience in boxing would say that. I've never boxed but didn't your training enhance your speed, agility, power and accuracy with your punches not to mention the ability to take alot of punches. I never said boxing was the perfect art for street fighting. I realize it has it's limits but shouldn't any experienced boxer be able to take out your average guy in a standup fight within the first few seconds? This should be a given. A guy who studied traditional martial arts isn't going to be so lucky. Heck he'll probably get his ass kicked. t:

That would be nice and all, but most fights go to the ground. However Boxing does improve your coordination and reflexes.

 

[Golgo-13]

You guys need to go and see some KIMBO SLICE fights on you tube.

I watch those all the time. He has vicious hands, but did you see the one against the MMA guy? Kimbo got wooped. He trains with Bas Rutten the last i heard, so maybe his game has rounded out.

 

[R0rschach]

I watch those all the time. He has vicious hands, but did you see the one against the MMA guy? Kimbo got wooped. He trains with Bas Rutten the last i heard, so maybe his game has rounded out.

Yeah I know, Kimbo is a beast man. I saw the fight and I ain't no fan of MMA, all that holding down your opponent and shyte, just boring.
Kimbo is a street fighter to the core.
I hope he fights David "Tank" Abbott soon, man that tank is a mean cat.

I read all this chatter about kung fu and crap, what a joke and I've watched alot of fights be it K1, boxing, Muay thai, you name it.
Street fights are the best. Those fights are real. No ***** ****.
These are the fights one longs to see, no holding and locks, just punches and kicks and no gloves.

 

[zanos]

That would be nice and all, but most fights go to the ground. However Boxing does improve your coordination and reflexes.

Most fights start off with wild swings and punches.

 

[Golgo-13]

Yeah I know, Kimbo is a beast man. I saw the fight and I ain't no fan of MMA, all that holding down your opponent and shyte, just boring.
Kimbo is a street fighter to the core.
I hope he fights David "Tank" Abbott soon, man that tank is a mean cat.

I read all this chatter about kung fu and crap, what a joke and I've watched alot of fights be it K1, boxing, Muay thai, you name it.
Street fights are the best. Those fights are real. No ***** ****.
These are the fights one longs to see, no holding and locks, just punches and kicks and no gloves.

The thing that gets me with boxing is that in a streetfight, the chances that you can serious hurt yourself, seems to be very high. I do Muy Thai along with BJJ, and in Mauy Thai we throw punches as well as elbows, knees and what have you. The thing is, i have very boney knuckles, so if i go to punch a guy in a streetfight, and hit him any place other than his nose, or jaw on his head, i'm probably gonna end up breaking my own hand. Punching the human skull is like punching a skin covered bowling ball. The fragile bones of the hand were not made for such impact. I'd much rather throw elbow's, open handed strikes, front kicks, and knees, all of which utilizes some of the hardest, strongest, and most durable parts of my body; cutting down the risk of me hurting myself.

I love MMA as oppose to just striking, and your right ROrschach, it may not be as exciting as seeing two guys swinging at each, but there's no denying the results; it works.

I'd much rather use my Brazilian Jiu Jitsu and submit the guy on the ground. Once on the ground, alot of things get evened out for an averaged sized guy such as myself. The other persons height, and reach advantage that they had while standing up gets neutrilized. It may not be such a smart idea to use your ground game with multiple opponents, but one on one fighting; i still swear by it.

 

[ShadowBoxing]

Most fights start off with wild swings and punches.

....Actually, that's incorrect. Most fights start with a tackle, some sort of pushing or shoving motions, or something of that nature. Rarely do people stand across from each other and simply throw punches back and forth.

Statistics show about 80-90% of fights go to the ground within the first 10 seconds.

 

[Darthphere]

But I think there is a line. If the guy I'm angry at is down, I'm not gonna continue wailing on him with everything I've got.

But yeah... I've disobeyed my own ideal once. There was a time in a bar where these guys were acting like jerks to me and my friends while we were playing pool. One of the guys came over to us, pretending to be drunk and trying to shake our hands. One of my friends dumb enough to shake his hand got smacked in the face by the guy.

Five seconds later, I find myself holding a pool que, yelling at the guy something like "WHAT THE **** IS YOUR DEAL BACK THE **** OFF!!" and I was SO close to swinging the que across his head.

That was two years ago and I still to this day regret not swinging the que into the bastards head. I would have been 100% justified. So maybe I'm wrong altogether.

Fan fiction.