lupe fiasco's The Cool ressurects hiphop

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  1. kang604 Registered

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    now, dont come in this thread if you're just going to bash hiphop music. What I hope this thread does is open some eyes that the music is an actual art form, that it deserves respect as so. What is flooded on the radio is NOT hiphop... its pop.

    Hiphop is often criticized for lacking creativity. Lupe Fiasco does not fall under this catergory. please take a second to try and understand how incredibly talented this man is.

    "Lupe Fiasco's The Cool expands on the story Lupe told on the track, "The Cool", from his debut album. Fiasco introduces the characters the Streets and the Game. The album tells the story of the little boy from "He Say, She Say" who grew up without a father, and the people that step in to raise him are the Streets and the Game. Speaking on the concept Lupe said:

    I expand on the story, I introduce two other characters, the Game and the Streets. The Streets is a female. She's like the action personification of the streets, the street life, the call of the streets. The Game is the same way. The Game is the personification of the game. The pimp's game, the hustler's game, the con man's game, whatever. Then they've got supernatural characteristics. Like the Cool, his right hand is rotted away. The only thing that rotted away was his right hand. It represents the rotting away of his righteousness, of his good. And the Streets and the Cool kind of have a love affair going on. So she's represented by this locket. And the locket has a key and it's on fire. And as a gift to the Cool on his rise to fame, she gave him the key. And the key represents the key to the Streets. So she wears a locket around her neck at all times. And the way the story goes, she has given that key to tons of people throughout time. Al Capone, Alexander the Great, whatever. She's giving them the key to the Streets. Fame and fortune — but also the prices. The Game, he's represented by a stripped-down skull, a skull with dice in his eyes and smoke coming out of his mouth. The billowing smoke is actually crack smoke. It's not a full concept album; it's more spread over like five [tracks], really abstractly."

    1. He Say She Say (The Cool as a kid, story of no father)
    2. Real Recognize Real (Introduction of The Game and the Streets)
    3. I Dont Feel So Good (How The Cool's mom gives in to the game and the streets, she becomes a stripper)
    4. The Coolest(Michael Young becomes the cool through the Streets)
    5. The Die (The Cool now as a hustler gets killed)
    6. The Cool (The Cool came back to life to exact revenge on those who killed him)

    other awesome displays of lyrical talent...

    "LITTLE WEAPON"

    "I killed another man today
    Shot him in his back as he ran away
    Then I blew up his hut with a hand grenade
    Cut his wife's throat as she put her hands to pray
    Just five more dawgs then we can get a soccer ball
    That's what my commander say
    How Old?
    Well Im like ten, eleven, been fightin since I was like six or seven
    Now I dont know much bout where Im from
    but I know I strike fear everywhere I come
    Government want me dead so I wear my gun
    I really want the rocket launcher but Im still too young
    This candy give me courage not to fear no one
    To fear no pain, and hear no tongue
    So I feel no pain, and I shed no tear
    If Im in your dreams then your end is near."


    "AMERICAN TERRORIST"

    "Don’t give black man food, give the red man liquor
    Red man fool, black man *****
    Give yellow man tool, make him railroad builder
    Also give him pan, make him pull gold from river
    Give black man crack, glocks and things
    Give red man craps, slot machines"


    "KICK PUSH"

    "First got it when he was six
    Didn't know any tricks
    Matter of fact first time he got on it he slipped
    Landed on his hip
    And busted his lip
    For a week he had to talk with a lisp
    Like THISSSSS
    Now we can end the story right here
    But shorty didn't quit there was something in the air
    Yea, he said it was something so appealin
    He couldn't fight the feelin
    Something about it
    He knew he couldn't doubt it
    Couldn't understand it
    Brand it, just the first kickflip he landed
    Uh, labeled a misfit, a bandit
    *Kakunk Kakunk Kakunk!*
    His neighbors couldn't stand it so
    He was banished to the park
    Started in the morning wouldn't stop 'til after dark
    Yea, when they said, "It's getting late in here..
    ...so I'm sorry young man there's no skating here"

    so he kick push kick push kick push kick push coasssssttttt
    and away he roll
    just a rebel to the world with no place to go..."


    "HIP HOP SAVED MY LIFE"

    "He said, I write what I see
    Write to make it right, don't like what I be
    I like to make it like the sights on TV
    Quite the great life so nice and easy
    See, now you can still die from that
    But it's better than not being alive from straps
    Agreed
    a Mead notebook and a Bic that click when its pushed and a whack ass beat.
    That's a track thats weak that he got last week
    'Cause everybody in the studio's like "that's that heat"
    A bass-heavy medley with a sample from the 70s with a screwed up hook that went "Stack that cheese"
    Somethin somethin somethin "Stack that cheese"
    Mother sister cousin "Stack that cheese"
    He couldn't think of nothin' "Stack that cheese"
    He turns down the beat, writter's block impedes
    Cryin' from the next room a baby in need of some pampers and some food and a place to sleep
    That plus a black Cadillac on D's
    Is what keeps him on track to be a great MC"



    Lupe Fiasco. The Truth.
     
  2. The Apocalypse Registered

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    There already is a Hip-Hop/Rap thread.
     
  3. Superman4ever Registered

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    I agree 1000% Lupe Fiasco is amazing. One of the best lyricists out there. I also LOVE how he uses "big" words in his rhymes.

    From his hit "superstar":

    "...Standing outside of heaven waiting for God to come and get me
    Im too uncouth
    Unschooled to the rules
    And two gum shoe..."

    How many rappers can use the word "uncouth" in a song?

    Lupe rules!
     
  4. Steve Rogers Registered

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    I've only heard one album of his, but I didn't think it was as special as people led me to believe.
     
  5. BatSpider Not an S

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    Im into the Rock genre (heck, im in a band)

    BUT, Lupe Fiasco is one of my favorite artists :yay:
     
  6. Manic User title? USER TITLE?!

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    We ain't graduate from school, n*gga
    Dumb it down
    Them big words ain't cool, n*gga
    Dumb it down

    :hehe:
    I love "Dumb it Down." Lupe just gets in your face about how his lyrics don't give in to cliches. Anybody who can rap about giant robots deserves my fandom.
     
  7. BlackLantern Registered

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    this is the Hype we criticize here.....wow how original a hip hop artist who tells a story about someone from a broken home who becomes "The Cool"....I am truly shocked and awed..
     
  8. The Shape In the shadows

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    I think Lupe's pretty good. He's extremely talented, but not the God many claim he is.
     
  9. Manic User title? USER TITLE?!

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    Giant robots, man.
     
  10. BlackLantern Registered

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    Hip Hop seems to be the most fickle form of music out there. In a year or so no one will care about Lupe Fiasco....
     
  11. Manic User title? USER TITLE?!

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    Right, because nobody remembers The Roots or Common...
     
  12. BlackLantern Registered

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    I prefer Common as an actor....hopefully he smartens up and realizes that a film career will be more rewarding
     
  13. BlackLantern Registered

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    what about No Limit Records? wasn't that supposed to revolutionize the genre or something?
     
  14. Manic User title? USER TITLE?!

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    As a person in his pre-teens to early teens during No Limit's "reign" over rap, I have to admit that I hated them even back when they were popular.
     
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    So you criticize one of the only fairly recognizable hip hop artists around, in being creative with the song concepts and lyrics?

    Hip-Hop needs someone like Lupe around, in the garbage that's been out lately. It's sad he'll be retiring after one more album, but at the very least he's done more for the genre than his peers.
     
  16. terry78 My name is Stefan, sweet thang

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    Lupe appeals to those backpackers as well as the hardcore fans. He can go from doing songs about skateboarding and wearing Vans to talking about graphic experiences in the hood.
     
  17. Superman4ever Registered

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    Nice!

    BTW, how did you manage a return? Either way it's good to have ya back!
     
  18. Manic User title? USER TITLE?!

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    Yeah, I hear he's stopping after 'LUP end'. High score achieved. Initials entered. Game over.

    Unless he pops in another quarter, and releases 3 more albums.
     
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    Hell yeah!

    Lupe wipes his ass with other "rappers" out there. He's on another level when compared to crappers out there!
     
  20. Crook Registered

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    Exactly. But there's also this big misconception that Lupe is a "nerd" just because of his first single. It honestly baffles me how they can consider him as such, if they just listened to his discography. He is one of the most diverse rap artists I've heard in recent years.

    Thanks. I hired a very good lawyer to speak for my case. And by lawyer I mean me. Yeah, I'm good. :o :up:

    His retirement announcement forced me to buy his albums in hopes that everyone else does the same, and encourages Lupe to stay. :O
     
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    I hope he stays around for a little longer than 1 album. And the fact that he's a Muslim, to me is an inspiration. I think us younger Muslims need more positive influence.
     
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    Like I said good to have you back! I did the same thing, I bought 2 of "The Cool", one for a friend. Gotta support the Brothers!

    He really is a breath of fresh air!
     
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    the concept is about "someone rising from the streets" .....hardly original....he is a good lyricist, I'll give him that but you can only tell the same story so many different ways before it gets old. as a genre Hip hop has only been around 20 or so years, in terms of music genres it is the little brother constantly begging for attention. If anything this thread should be in the Celebrity section so people can be free to b**w Fiasco at their leisure.
     
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    uhhh.... you talking about master-p, c-murda, silkk the shocka no limit records? "make em say ungggghhhhh" no limit records?

    i dont think anyone ever thought no limit would do anything positive for hiphop culture. if anything, they contributed to the bling-bling era of rap.

    lupe is a breath of fresh air in the new generation of MCs. Ive been a fan of hiphop since i was 3 years old, back in the days of run dmc, public enemy, fat boyz, tribe called quest, etc... but i literally stopped listening to new hiphop music for the past 4 years or so because of the garbage that was being put out there.

    lupe fiasco has brought me back. he has the talent and creative vision to re-define the genre and bring mainstream hiphop lyricism back from the dead.
     
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    I'm not a big fan of hip-hop by any means but Lupe is by far my favorite. Nobody, at least in the mainstream world of hip-hop, matches the depth of his stuff. I love him.

    I like Lupe, Kanye, Common, and The Roots. The rest of the popular hip-hop/rap is garbage.

    If I had to recommend any Lupe song to a new listener it would be "Dumb it Down." Perfect example of what makes Lupe stand out from the trash that you see on MTV and BET.
     

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