Karl Rove WON'T BE Charged

[Addendum]

Who's Karl Rove

Karl Rove on American Dad.

As to who he really is, I don't know. I never heard of the man until I saw the above on American Dad last year

 

[TheSumOfGod]

Karl Rove on American Dad.

As to who he really is, I don't know. I never heard of the man until I saw the above on American Dad last year

He's the mastermind behind the infamous tactics of the Bush administration, and he's often called "Bush's brain". He's apparently pure manipulative evil, and he lives in the south of France.

 

[Addendum]

Oh...

He's a Visitor/Gorn/lizard people you like to go on about.

Hint: read the above with a sense of mockery

 

[TheSumOfGod]

Oh...

He's a Visitor/Gorn/lizard people you like to go on about.

Hint: read the above with a sense of mockery

No, what I've described him as is not a conspiracy theory, it's what most people who know him and who have observed his actions behind the scenes over the years describe him as. You should become more informed about who actually pulls the strings in your government.

 

[Addendum]

No, what I've described him as is not a conspiracy theory, it's what most people who know him and who have observed his actions behind the scenes over the years describe him as. You should become more informed about who actually pulls the strings in your government.

Here's a few...

 

[TheSumOfGod]

Here's a few...

Apart from those.

Karl Rove is Bush's ultimate PR spin doctor, the one behind his machiavelical and fascistic publicity campaigns, like his 2004 re-election "the liberal/terrorist wolves are out to get you!" bulls**t.

 

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http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/06/13/america/web.0613rove.php

By David Johnston The New York Times

Published: June 13, 2006


WASHINGTON The prosecutor in the C.I.A. leak case on Monday advised Karl Rove, the senior White House adviser, that he would not be charged with any wrongdoing, effectively ending the nearly three-year criminal investigation that had at times focused intensely on Rove.

The decision by the prosecutor, Patrick Fitzgerald, announced in a letter to Rove's lawyer, Robert Luskin, lifted a pall that had hung over Rove who testified on five occasions to a federal grand jury about his involvement in the disclosure of an intelligence officer's identity.

In a statement, Luskin said, "On June 12, 2006, Special Counsel Patrick Fitzgerald formally advised us that he does not anticipate seeking charges against Karl Rove."

Fitzgerald's spokesman, Randall Samborn, said he would not comment on Rove's status.

For months Fitzgerald's investigation appeared to threaten Rove's standing as Bush's closest political adviser as the prosecutor riveted his focus on whether Rove tried to intentionally conceal a conversation he had with a Time magazine reporter in the week before the name of intelligence officer, Valerie Plame Wilson, became public.

The decision not pursue any charges removes a potential political stumbling block for a White House that is heading into a long and difficult election season for Republicans in Congress.

Fitzgerald's decision should help the White House in what has been an unsuccessful effort to put the leak case behind it. Still ahead, however, is the trial of Vice President Dick Cheney's former chief of staff, I. Lewis Libby Jr., on charges for perjury and obstruction of justice, and the prospect that Mr. Cheney could be called to testify in that case.

In his statement Luskin said he would not address other legal questions surrounding Fitzgerald's decision. He added, "In deference to the pending case, we will not make any further public statements about the subject matter of the investigation. We believe that the Special Counsel's decision should put an end to the baseless speculation about Rove's conduct."

But it was evident that Fitzgerald's decision followed an exhaustive inquiry into Rove's activities that had brought the political strategist dangerously close to possible charges. In October, when Libby was indicted, people close to Rove had suggested that his involvement in the case would soon be over; speculation about Rove's legal situation flared again in April when he made his fifth appearance before the grand jury.

A series of meetings between Luskin and Fitzgerald and his team proved pivotal in dissuading the prosecutor from bringing charges. On one occasion Luskin himself became a witness in the case, giving sworn testimony that was beneficial to Rove.

At the case stands now, Fitzgerald has brought only one indictment against Libby. The prosecutor accused Libby of telling the grand jury that he learned of Wilson from reporters, when in reality, the prosecutor said he was told about her by Cheney and others in the government. Libby has pleaded not guilty in the case, which is scheduled to begin trial early next year.

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I'm.
I just don't know anymore.
I'd like to just trust Fitzgerald.
i just don't know.

*notices thread*


Go figure.


*notices who started thread*


Holy Monkies!

 

[sinewave]

welcome back, max!

yeah, this rove news sucks. he was obviously involved in some way and can't be trusted.

 

[dpm07]

He really exhibited conduct that was unbecoming and unprofessional for an individual in his position. I am rather disenchanted with the fact that nothing was done to punish him for his actions. It would be more proper to cite him in some fashion for his actions.

 

[cass]

Funny how liberals were praising Fitzgerald. "He's fair and impartial! He's doing his job!" But once they don't get the results they wanted from a witch hunt, it's time to question and doubt him.

 

[War Lord]

welcome back, max!

yeah, this rove news sucks. he was obviously involved in some way and can't be trusted.

He may have been involved in some way, but that doesn't mean anything criminal was done. The fact that nobody, not even Scooter or Novak, has been charged with anything should tell you something.

 

[sinewave]

Funny how liberals were praising Fitzgerald. "He's fair and impartial! He's doing his job!" But once they don't get the results they wanted from a witch hunt, it's time to question and doubt him.

there's always room to question everyone. i still think fitzgerald is doing a good job and we haven't heard for sure if rove's getting off scott-free. got anything important to add or is this another of your typical trolling sprees?

 

[cass]

there's always room to question everyone. i still think fitzgerald is doing a good job and we haven't heard for sure if rove's getting off scott-free. got anything important to add or is this another of your typical trolling sprees?

Oh no! He pointed out our hypocrisy, call him a troll or something!

 

[sinewave]

He may have been involved in some way, but that doesn't mean anything criminal was done. The fact that nobody, not even Scooter or Novak, has been charged with anything should tell you something.

what is that something?

there was obviously some underhanded things going on at the white house. someone leaked her name in retaliation to joe wilson's accurate portrayal of the lies that led us to war. someone better pay for it because that's a treasonous offense.

 

[sinewave]

Oh no! He pointed out our hypocrisy, call him a troll or something!

we call you a troll because all you do is pop up and make snide comments to people with differing political views than yours. i didn't see any evidence of hypocrisy. we're concerned about rove getting off scott-free, but nobody has come out and chastised fitzgerald for it. ask the rest of the conservatives on these boards if they're happy with the way you are representing them with your idiotic behavior.

 

[cass]

what is that something?

there was obviously some underhanded things going on at the white house. someone leaked her name in retaliation to joe wilson's accurate portrayal of the lies that led us to war. someone better pay for it because that's a treasonous offense.

Joe Wilson was, in the words of many diplomats, a nobody. He was recommended by his wife to go to Niger and did so. His investigations consisted of asking "Hey, you guys aren't gonna sell uranium to Saddam Hussein, you know that guy in Iraq?" to low level Nigerian officials over dinner. He never filed a written report to Cheney or the CIA. Accurate portrayal of lies? Only in a liberal's mind.

 

[War Lord]

what is that something?

there was obviously some underhanded things going on at the white house. someone leaked her name in retaliation to joe wilson's accurate portrayal of the lies that led us to war. someone better pay for it because that's a treasonous offense.

That something was nothing in the end.

It may have been many things, but it wasn't a criminal activity. Her name was leaked well after she had served her function as a CIA agent.

If there had really been something criminal about the leak, there would have been charges.

 

[cass]

we call you a troll because all you do is pop up and make snide comments to people with differing political views than yours. i didn't see any evidence of hypocrisy. we're concerned about rove getting off scott-free, but nobody has come out and chastised fitzgerald for it. ask the rest of the conservatives on these boards if they're happy with the way you are representing them with your idiotic behavior.

Apparently Fitzgerald thought that Rove-gasp!- didn't do anything criminal! Oh no!

And unlike the liberals of the board, who seem really into gangraping conservatives, I don't need a back up team.

 

[sinewave]

Joe Wilson was, in the words of many diplomats, a nobody. He was recommended by his wife to go to Niger and did so. His investigations consisted of asking "Hey, you guys aren't gonna sell uranium to Saddam Hussein, you know that guy in Iraq?" to low level Nigerian officials over dinner. He never filed a written report to Cheney or the CIA. Accurate portrayal of lies? Only in a liberal's mind.

i'm not even going to respond to this idiotic post because it's completely and utterly uninformed. stick to picking on teenagers in the comicbook threads because you obvioulsy have no clue about politics.

 

[Matt]

Meh, he would've just got pardoned.

I mean, all these people who think Kenneth Lay's conviction is big are niave. He will be pardoned at the end of Bush's term. Libby probably will be too. Liberty is quickly becoming an illusion used only to keep the masses in line.

 

[sinewave]

That something was nothing in the end.

It may have been many things, but it wasn't a criminal activity. Her name was leaked well after she had served her function as a CIA agent.

If there had really been something criminal about the leak, there would have been charges.

we're not at the end, yet. the investigation is still ongoing.

"leaked after the had served her function as a cia agent?" where are you getting that? she was actively working in the wmd counterproliferation department and once she was outted her career was effectively over. you'll come up with any excuse to kowtow to your party, won't you?

 

[Matt]

That something was nothing in the end.

It may have been many things, but it wasn't a criminal activity. Her name was leaked well after she had served her function as a CIA agent.

If there had really been something criminal about the leak, there would have been charges.

By that logic Jonty, Clinton did nothing illegal because he wasn't prosecuted, right?

So let me hear you say it..."Clinton did not break the law"...no, not gonna say it? Didn't think so you partisan hack. Go get beat up by your nephew.

 

[cass]

i'm not even going to respond to this idiotic post because it's completely and utterly uninformed.

Oh man, Teddy Kennedy's nephew didn't say that, that has to be wrong!

 

[Matt]

By the way, welcome back Max. We missed you.

 

[War Lord]

we're not at the end, yet. the investigation is still ongoing.

"leaked after the had served her function as a cia agent?" where are you getting that? she was actively working in the wmd counterproliferation department and once she was outted her career was effectively over. you'll come up with any excuse to kowtow to your party, won't you?

Here's an article dealing with some of the points.

http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110007508

Investigate the CIA
An "outing" was the result of either incompetence or an effort to undermine the White House.

BY VICTORIA TOENSING
Sunday, November 6, 2005 12:01 a.m. EST

In a surprise, closed-door debate, Senate Democrats last week demanded an investigation of pre-Iraq War intelligence. Here's an issue for them: Assess the validity of the claim that Valerie Plame's status was "covert," or even properly classified, given the wretched tradecraft by the Central Intelligence Agency throughout the entire episode. It was, after all, the CIA that requested the "leak" investigation, alleging that one of its agents had been outed in Bob Novak's July 14, 2003, column. Yet it was the CIA's bizarre conduct that led inexorably to Ms. Plame's unveiling.

When the Intelligence Identities Protection Act was being negotiated, Senate Select Committee Chairman Barry Goldwater was adamant: If the CIA desired a law making it illegal to expose one of its deep cover employees, then the agency must do a much better job of protecting their cover. That is why a criterion for any prosecution under the act is that the government was taking "affirmative measures" to conceal the protected person's relationship to the intelligence agency. Two decades later, the CIA, either purposely or with gross negligence, made a series of decisions that led to Ms. Plame becoming a household name:

• The CIA sent her husband, former ambassador Joseph Wilson, to Niger on a sensitive mission regarding WMD. He was to determine whether Iraq had attempted to purchase yellowcake, an essential ingredient for unconventional weapons. However, it was Ms. Plame, not Mr. Wilson, who was the WMD expert. Moreover, Mr. Wilson had no intelligence background, was never a senior person in Niger when he was in the State Department, and was opposed to the administration's Iraq policy. The assignment was given, according to the Senate Intelligence Committee, at Ms. Plame's suggestion.

• Mr. Wilson was not required to sign a confidentiality agreement, a mandatory act for the rest of us who either carry out any similar CIA assignment or represent CIA clients.

• When he returned from Niger, Mr. Wilson was not required to write a report, but rather merely to provide an oral briefing. That information was not sent to the White House. If this mission to Niger were so important, wouldn't a competent intelligence agency want a thoughtful written assessment from the "missionary," if for no other reason than to establish a record to refute any subsequent misrepresentation of that assessment? Because it was the vice president who initially inquired about Niger and the yellowcake (although he had nothing to do with Mr. Wilson being sent), it is curious that neither his office nor the president's were privy to the fruits of Mr. Wilson's oral report.

• Although Mr. Wilson did not have to write even one word for the agency that sent him on the mission at taxpayer's expense, over a year later he was permitted to tell all about this sensitive assignment in the New York Times. For the rest of us, writing about such an assignment would mean we'd have to bring our proposed op-ed before the CIA's Prepublication Review Board and spend countless hours arguing over every word to be published. Congressional oversight committees should want to know who at the CIA permitted the publication of the article, which, it has been reported, did not jibe with the thrust of Mr. Wilson's oral briefing. For starters, if the piece had been properly vetted at the CIA, someone should have known that the agency never briefed the vice president on the trip, as claimed by Mr. Wilson in his op-ed.

• More important than the inaccuracies is that, if the CIA truly, truly, truly had wanted Ms. Plame's identity to be secret, it never would have permitted her spouse to write the op-ed. Did no one at Langley think that her identity could be compromised if her spouse wrote a piece discussing a foreign mission about a volatile political issue that focused on her expertise? The obvious question a sophisticated journalist such as Mr. Novak asked after "Why did the CIA send Wilson?" was "Who is Wilson?" After being told by a still-unnamed administration source that Mr. Wilson's "wife" suggested him for the assignment, Mr. Novak went to Who's Who, which reveals "Valerie Plame" as Mr. Wilson's spouse.

• CIA incompetence did not end there. When Mr. Novak called the agency to verify Ms. Plame's employment, it not only did so, but failed to go beyond the perfunctory request not to publish. Every experienced Washington journalist knows that when the CIA really does not want something public, there are serious requests from the top, usually the director. Only the press office talked to Mr. Novak.

• Although high-ranking Justice Department officials are prohibited from political activity, the CIA had no problem permitting its deep cover or classified employee from making political contributions under the name "Wilson, Valerie E.," information publicly available at the Federal Elections Commission.

The CIA conduct in this matter is either a brilliant covert action against the White House or inept intelligence tradecraft. It is up to Congress to decide which.