Kenshin vs Batman

[Dark-Kenshin]

Straight up battle with both characters at their best, except Kenshin doesn't get to turn into the manslayer at any point of the fight. Who wins?

 

[D.Rex]

I say Kenshin wins. I think he's a damn near unmatched martial artist.His sword and strike speed are almost superhuman.In a one onone match where Batman has no room to improvise I say Kenshin.

 

[Gotenks]

Batman has no chance against kenshin. It would be sad to see batman cut up into pieces, but theres no way he could win.

 

[Warhammer]

Even though I love Batman and could care less about Kenshin,
Kenshin would still wipe the floor wth him.

 

[hippie_hunter]

I like Kenshin more than Batman but I have to give Batman the win. Batman posesses superior knowledge, superior tactics, superior martial arts, superior arsenal (batarangs, bombs, smoke pellets, projectiles, etc) and is a decent swordsman (nowhere near Kenshin's level). All Kenshin has is superior swordsmanship skills and near-god like speed. Batman is also more brutal than Kenshin.

 

[Warhammer]

I like Kenshin more than Batman but I have to give Batman the win. Batman posesses superior knowledge, superior tactics, superior martial arts, superior arsenal (batarangs, bombs, smoke pellets, projectiles, etc) and is a decent swordsman (nowhere near Kenshin's level). All Kenshin has is superior swordsmanship skills and near-god like speed. Batman is also more brutal than Kenshin.

I do agree with what Batman has to offer.
(Has a Batman geekasm)

 

[Dark-Kenshin]

Can Batman measure up to any of this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-iMfOHeiu4&search=Kenshin episode 30

 

[hippie_hunter]

Can Batman measure up to any of this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-iMfOHeiu4&search=Kenshin%20episode%2030

Kenshin no longer reverts to the the Battosai. And yes, Batman can match that except for the speed.

 

[Warhammer]

You know, Batman probably stands a chance about Kenshin.
Throw a exploding Batarang at him, and that's that.

Besides, Batman is a very good hand-to-hand fighter, one of the best in the DC Universe.

 

[hippie_hunter]

You know, Batman probably stands a chance about Kenshin.
Throw a exploding Batarang at him, and that's that.

Besides, Batman is a very good hand-to-hand fighter, one of the best in the DC Universe.

He is also very skilled in weapons combat too.

 

[Warhammer]

That is true.
Kenshin could wipe the floor with Batman, but the good news is Batman could do the same thing 2x over.

 

[Dark-Kenshin]

Kenshin no longer reverts to the the Battosai. And yes, Batman can match that except for the speed.

Kenshin surpasses his skills as that battousai, after his master teaches him the two ultimate techniques. Although if he went battousai from then, he'd be even more powerful. The point is that by the end of the kyoto arc, he is more skilled than what I had shown in the video.

Batman's smart, I'll give you that, but Kenshin is smarter. He fights by reading emotions. Considering how emotional Batman is with losing his parents, trying so hard to fight the temptation of killing, and his obsession with crime, reading his emotions and countering them would be a piece of cake.

Even if Batman had the chance for a rematch, he'd still lose. Kenshin beat Shishio, who could analyze and counter any technique used on him previously.

 

[acerwylde]

I like Kenshin more than Batman but I have to give Batman the win. Batman posesses superior knowledge, superior tactics, superior martial arts, superior arsenal (batarangs, bombs, smoke pellets, projectiles, etc) and is a decent swordsman (nowhere near Kenshin's level). All Kenshin has is superior swordsmanship skills and near-god like speed. Batman is also more brutal than Kenshin.

With that being stated how could batman win?

and if you watched Kenshin how could you say Batman is a superior tactician?

 

[Gotenks]

Yeah that would mean batman would need god-like speed to match or even beat kenshin and i know batman is not fast.

 

[hippie_hunter]

Kenshin surpasses his skills as that battousai, after his master teaches him the two ultimate techniques. Although if he went battousai from then, he'd be even more powerful. The point is that by the end of the kyoto arc, he is more skilled than what I had shown in the video.

Batman's smart, I'll give you that, but Kenshin is smarter. He fights by reading emotions. Considering how emotional Batman is with losing his parents, trying so hard to fight the temptation of killing, and his obsession with crime, reading his emotions and countering them would be a piece of cake.

Even if Batman had the chance for a rematch, he'd still lose. Kenshin beat Shishio, who could analyze and counter any technique used on him previously.

1. Batman has 21st Century knowledge, Kenshin has 19th Century knowledge. Batman basically wins by default. Batman is also one of the smartest men of the 21st Century, right up there with Lex Luthor, Ted Kord, Oracle, Robin, Kid Flash, and Mr. Terrific.

2. Kenshin no longer reverts to the Battosai and doesn't need to. After Kenshin learned the ultimate techniques of the Hiten Mitsurugi Ryu, Kenshin became more powerful than the Battosai.

3. Shishio only lost to Kenshin because he spontaneously combusted. Shishio would have won that fight if he did not have that limitation.

4. Batman does hide his emotions in combat, just like Soujiro. Batman is considered to be a rather unemotional and cold person, the exact opposite of Kenshin. Also Batman has moved on past the deaths of his parents. Their ghosts no longer haunt him, they give him confort. Unlike Kenshin who is haunted by the death of his wife Tomoe and all those that he's killed. Batman holds himself back from killing just like Kenshin. He has been tempted just as much as Kenshin has (Batman was tempted to kill the Joker and Alexander Luthor, Kenshin was tempted to kill Saito, Cho, and Jin'e).

 

[hippie_hunter]

With that being stated how could batman win?

and if you watched Kenshin how could you say Batman is a superior tactician?

Batman has come up with plans to take down members of the Justice League and other heroes. Hes come up with numerous battle plans and up to 5 back up plans for each (stated in No Man's Land) if the a plan fails. He's come up with a plan to fight Superman and live through it.

Batman is the DCU's second best strategist behind Deathstroke. Kenshin is no idiot. But Batman is the superior tactician.

 

[hippie_hunter]

Yeah that would mean batman would need god-like speed to match or even beat kenshin and i know batman is not fast.

Kenshin's superior speed and swordsmanship skills are the only things Batman would have to worry about. Batman's superior martial arts skills along with his adequate weapons combat skills would counter Kenshin's swordsmanship. The speed however is another thing. I honestly can't think of a way Batman would come around it.

 

[D.Rex]

Can Batman measure up to any of this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-iMfOHeiu4&search=Kenshin%20episode%2030

Damn. That clip reminded me of what a great show Rurouni Kenshin was. I have to go buy some DVDs. That was one my favorite shows of all time.

 

[Dark-Kenshin]

1. Batman has 21st Century knowledge, Kenshin has 19th Century knowledge. Batman basically wins by default. Batman is also one of the smartest men of the 21st Century, right up there with Lex Luthor, Ted Kord, Oracle, Robin, Kid Flash, and Mr. Terrific.

2. Kenshin no longer reverts to the Battosai and doesn't need to. After Kenshin learned the ultimate techniques of the Hiten Mitsurugi Ryu, Kenshin became more powerful than the Battosai.

3. Shishio only lost to Kenshin because he spontaneously combusted. Shishio would have won that fight if he did not have that limitation.

4. Batman does hide his emotions in combat, just like Soujiro. Batman is considered to be a rather unemotional and cold person, the exact opposite of Kenshin. Also Batman has moved on past the deaths of his parents. Their ghosts no longer haunt him, they give him confort. Unlike Kenshin who is haunted by the death of his wife Tomoe and all those that he's killed. Batman holds himself back from killing just like Kenshin. He has been tempted just as much as Kenshin has (Batman was tempted to kill the Joker and Alexander Luthor, Kenshin was tempted to kill Saito, Cho, and Jin'e).

1.Doesn't matter. This is a straight up battle. Kenshin is a master tactician, a genius. One of his greatest feats is being able to manipulate a fighting style meant for extremely muscular men, meant for only killing, to his own abilities.

2. That's complete speculation. He can supposedly no longer revert, because he doesn't need the strength of that form. I'm sure that if his ultimate attack failed him completely, he'd revert to that form in desperation.

3. Don't forget that after Kenshin used his ultimate technique, Shishio was on the floor, and his girlfriend stood in front of Kenshin, giving Shishio the chance to stab through her to cut Kenshin's liver. So Kenshin would have won the fight without major damage, if it weren't for that.

4. As did Soujiro. And if I recall, Batman's emotions were all over the place during his fight with Jason Todd in an issue a few months back. Even when fighting the Joker, it's been proven possible to get a rise out of him. So they aren't difficult to erupt. So with that being said, all of Batman's moves will be predicted before he even makes them.

 

[ster]

3. Shishio only lost to Kenshin because he spontaneously combusted. Shishio would have won that fight if he did not have that limitation.

The only reason he survived that attack was because Kenshin was using a reverse blade sword. Otherwise, Shishio would have been cut in half. As far as what the two of them were physically capable of, Kenshin is superior.

But anyway, I recall Kenshin being able to go right through a mob of men and knock them all out with his reverse blade sword without anybody even being able to see him move. I thought that Batman had more limitations than that?

 

[hippie_hunter]

1.Doesn't matter. This is a straight up battle. Kenshin is a master tactician, a genius. One of his greatest feats is being able to manipulate a fighting style meant for extremely muscular men, meant for only killing, to his own abilities.

No, Batman is the superior tactician. This is the man who has come up with a plan to fight a mind controlled Superman and actually live.

2. That's complete speculation. He can supposedly no longer revert, because he doesn't need the strength of that form. I'm sure that if his ultimate attack failed him completely, he'd revert to that form in desperation.

No, the Jinchu arc shows that Kenshin no longer reverts to the Battosai and that when the Amakeru Ryu no Hirameki failed against Enishi he did not revert to the Battosai.

3. Don't forget that after Kenshin used his ultimate technique, Shishio was on the floor, and his girlfriend stood in front of Kenshin, giving Shishio the chance to stab through her to cut Kenshin's liver. So Kenshin would have won the fight without major damage, if it weren't for that.

Very true, if it weren't for Shishio's dirty move, Kenshin would have won that fight with some difficulty. But since Shishio killed Yumi, severly wounding Kenshin, Shishio should have been the victor.

4. As did Soujiro. And if I recall, Batman's emotions were all over the place during his fight with Jason Todd in an issue a few months back. Even when fighting the Joker, it's been proven possible to get a rise out of him. So they aren't difficult to erupt. So with that being said, all of Batman's moves will be predicted before he even makes them.

If someone's adopted son rose from the dead because of Superboy Prime's Super Emo Crystal Wall Breaking Punches and went into a Red Hood situation, they would react just like Batman. If the Joker killed someone's childhood best friend a few feet away from the killing, even though childhood friend was a clay decoy, they would get emotional. If someone saw their other adopted son lying on the ground on the verge of death, that person would get emotional. Batman is human, just like Kenshin. Kenshin would react the same way in Batman's place. Any person would. However those were rare circumstances, in a normal fight such as Batman vs. Kenshin, Batman would not get emotional. Bringing up Batman's parents would not get him emotional. Batman has confronted his parents' deaths and has moved on. That was the opposite of Soujiro, Soujiro locked up all his emotions and bad memories. Hence why he was on the verge of a breakdown, that is why he broke down in front of Kenshin because Kenshin made him realise that he was doing something that he did not want to do. Batman wants to be Batman, Soujiro did not want to be an assassin for the Juppongatana.

 

[hippie_hunter]

The only reason he survived that attack was because Kenshin was using a reverse blade sword. Otherwise, Shishio would have been cut in half. As far as what the two of them were physically capable of, Kenshin is superior.

Very true, if Kenshin used a regular sword, Shishio would have been killed. But that is not what Kenshin stands for. Batman and Kenshin are about equals physically. Batman would probally have the upper hand physically because he is much taller than Kenshin.

But anyway, I recall Kenshin being able to go right through a mob of men and knock them all out with his reverse blade sword without anybody even being able to see him move. I thought that Batman had more limitations than that?

That is because Kenshin is definetly superior to Batman in speed. But Batman has been able to defeat large numbers of people also.

 

[Dark-Kenshin]

1. Batman always beats Superman because of PIS, CIS, kryptonite, and that Superman is a boyscout. Heck, during hush, Batman even admitted that he would never be able to beat Superman, if not for his kind nature. By the way, in their last encounter, I seem to recall superman giving batman a royal brusing. And the only reason he survived was because of PIS. Kenshin on the contrary finds ways to beat opponents with unstoppable techniques, and without killing them.

2. Kenshin still beat Enishi, yes? If there were a point in the fight in which where he had no other option, I'm sure he would have reverted to battousai.

3. Agreed, but with no difficulty. Shishio was on his knees, and Kenshin was not. There was nothing he could have done in a fair fight.

4. But Batman doesn't anticipate his enemies movements by their emotions, but rather through his ocular senses, and his hearing, By the way, Batman hasn't gotten over his parents death. I don't know what bad writer fed you that. He is psychopathic. If he did, he wouldn't be fighting crime in gotham, and wouldn't feel it his place till' the day of his death . Heck, he says that he wears a mask as Bruce Wayne, and that Batman is his true face. So with that being sad, I'd say it would be fair to say that Batman has indeed locked up his emotions. It's true that they really re-surface. Stilll, what's proven is that it's possible to bring them out, as Kenshin had done to Soujiro.

{That is because Kenshin is definetly superior to Batman in speed. But Batman has been able to defeat large numbers of people also.}

How often does he defeat large numbers in half of a second?

 

[Dark-Kenshin]

You know, Batman probably stands a chance about Kenshin.
Throw a exploding Batarang at him, and that's that.

Besides, Batman is a very good hand-to-hand fighter, one of the best in the DC Universe.

I recall Kenshin fighting against a guy who was tossing dynamite at him. Sano's friend I believe. Anyway, Kenshin beat him quite easily.

 

[hippie_hunter]

I recall Kenshin fighting against a guy who was tossing dynamite at him. Sano's friend I believe. Anyway, Kenshin beat him quite easily.

Katsu's bombs had fuses on them, allowing Kenshin to use his god-like speed to cut them. An exploding batarang does not have a fuse. However, Kenshin would be able to dodge those with rather ease