Kevin Smith's Red State finally happening.

I loved it. Parks was fantastic. He's character is charming, evil and he is convincing.

The film plays like a comedy, then a horror and finally an action flick. I dug the blend.

I did want a better ending to it, that's the only thing I found disappointing.
 
I have to wait for two friends to free themselves up at the same time to watch it. Can't wait. So, without spoiling the details, the ending is like Burn After Reading? I liked that ending.
 
It was alright, Parks is fantastic though and John Goodman is great in everything
 
the movies on xbox live for download... still wouldnt pay a nickle to watch this crap

i saw the new preview vid that they show on xbox and it looks like he turned it into some wanna-be devils rejects action movie...

there's very little stopping me from calling him one of the worst directors out there.. right with uwe boll.
 
Clerks I, mallrats, and dogma werent horrible... but those were like 15 years ago

not sure how this guy became a cult hit... his comedies arent particularly laugh-out loud funny, his action movies arent exciting, his romance movies have no heart... and his films are far from visually pleasing or even shot professionally...worst is i think he's under the impression that he can write dialoge as good as his friend Quentin lol
 
I think Chasing Amy was his best film. I also have a thing for Joey Lauren Adems.
 
Just as I suspected, it's not as Earth shatteringly good as Smith and his friends would have you believe, but it's also no where near the cinematic atrocity that the stick-up-their-ass bloggers are making it out to be. Across the board I liked the performances, the minor exception being Melissa Leo, who wasn't bad, but I can see through her too easily. I can see her acting, and it irks me. Parks? Pretty awesome stuff. He's such a natural. The already infamous speech he gives didn't seem that long to me, both in terms of how it played and in literal running time. The capper to that scene worked really well too. It got a little rise out of my pulse. I don't think the movie ever hits a peak like that again, and once the ATF shows up, I wish there was a little more meat on it. It felt a bit insubstantial and the fire fights could have used more variety in how they were staged and framed. The first half of the film certainly plays better than the second half, but over all I dug it. I'll probably pick up the DVD and check out the special features in the future.

Regardless of my opinion on the quality of the movie, I really admire how Smith has handled distribution. Smith does have a tendency to believe his own self perpetuated hype, but you have to give him credit for being reasonable enough to recognize his own salability. It's limited. And now he's proven he doesn't need a major backing him to recoup his investors. They're in the black before the film even goes wide. That's awesome. It's a business model smaller filmmakers with smaller movies, and, smaller film companies should start following. There's been a huge gap for smaller movies to find a niche lately, and I've been waiting for years now for someone to take advantage of touring a movie the old school way combined with internet distribution and On Demand. If your movie didn't cost that much, you don't need any more than that. Find some humility and forget about about opening wide in theaters and snagging every demographic. Know you're audience and play it smart. This is a subject personal to me as I was involved with a now dead film project that I saw perverted in the name of snagging every demographic. I helped write a simple, raw, bloody, creature feature with a team of friends. I was going to score it. We wanted to gather investors and get maybe $25,000 and do it real guerilla style. Cut to a year later, and the budget has ballooned to $100,000, and our business manager is being a pain in the ass. He wants it set up for a sequel. He doesn't want us to kill a character anymore because he wants to make a star out of one of the actors we found (we found, not him). He wants to divert budget funds to a studio so the female star (who he wanted to screw) could record an album. He wants PG-13. Most infuriating, the director (my roommate at the time), went for it. She saw stars and really believed we could get kids and old people to come to the movie, she was going to be the next Del Toro. The script went to hell. What was once a to-the-point, no frills horror movie became an unreadable load of D&D fantasy nonsense that bore almost no resemblance to what I, and most everyone else, wanted to do. Everyone had lost sight of the goddamn point and everyone's heads got too big. The project imploded in spectacular fashion and never even got in front of cameras. Those investors are never going to see a dime of their money back. This wasn't Hollywood. This was a bunch of nobodies, but doesn't it read just like some ridiculous story of Hollywood waste and compromise that makes you scoff and say nasty things on the internet? If we had stuck to our guns, accepted our small corner of the small pond, we could've come out with something reasonable marketable, something cheap enough where it could been stayed under the radar and still recouped, no loss of integrity required. So I say bravo, Kevin Smith. Bravo for being smart, showing some humility, and making your investors happy campers. I envy you.
 
I liked it . Not sure if it was a satire or horror. It's just sadistic and quirky. I loved the twist on the [BLACKOUT]rapture[/BLACKOUT]. The Government agents were a bit over the top though. This movie had it's faults and will leave most people scratching their head. I give it a 7/10
 
I saw it today. I loved it. I really did. The whole sermon scene is so unsettling. When they eventually get to the killing of the gay man, with the congregation beginning to pray and getting to the floor, really got into my head. That scene, along with Kyle Gallner in the cage, were really the scariest in the film and it really gets to you.
I though all of the performances were great, but (as EVERYONE has said) Michael Parks just absolutely blows everything out of the water. He is phenomenal.
I will definitely see it again with someone who hasn't seen it yet and will pick it up on blu ray as soon as it hits.
 
Red State was probably Smith's most provacative and interesting movie in over a decade.

It wasn't as good of a film as I was expecting, but the look and the acting of the movie is where this movie shines and I expect a few acting nods..
 
Melissa Leo was convincing. She was so vile :awesome:
 
Watched this a while back and didn't care for it. However, I went back and watched it yesterday and absolutely loved it. Maybe it's because I wasn't prepared for some of it the first time around, but something about watching it yesterday got me to really love this movie. It's really odd, terrifying, shocking and (at moments) really funny. Good job Kevin Smith.
 
Finally watched Res State tonight. I used to be a huge Kevin Smith fan, and I really respect his distribution plan here.. But this movie is absolutely terrible. It was the one thing that it couldn't afford to be: toothless.
 
Little bumparoonie as I had totally forgotten about this flick and had no idea it was out until a few days ago. I thought it was damn good. I'd almost lost faith in ol Kev after the execrable Cop Out. I'll give it an 8/10. Also Michael Parks is a damn fine actor.
 
Red State was probably Smith's most provacative and interesting movie in over a decade.

It wasn't as good of a film as I was expecting, but the look and the acting of the movie is where this movie shines and I expect a few acting nods..

I agree with this, except the few acting nods part of course.
 
so can we find out how much money this movie made?
 
It kind of makes me sad that he didn't have enough money to shoot his original ending though lol.

Kevin Smith's first drafted ending for Red State was to have the climatic shootout at the church end when the true apocalypse begins: Trumpet blasts herald from the sky which turns blood red and is fills with angels, one of which impales Pastor Cooper with a flaming sword. Given the film's $5,000 special effects budget this ending was logistically impossible yet elements of it inspired the film's final ending.

Anyway the sermon was way intense and I was shocked more than a couple times. :up: Awesome movie.
 
It kind of makes me sad that he didn't have enough money to shoot his original ending though lol.

Kevin Smith's first drafted ending for Red State was to have the climatic shootout at the church end when the true apocalypse begins: Trumpet blasts herald from the sky which turns blood red and is fills with angels, one of which impales Pastor Cooper with a flaming sword. Given the film's $5,000 special effects budget this ending was logistically impossible yet elements of it inspired the film's final ending.

Anyway the sermon was way intense and I was shocked more than a couple times. :up: Awesome movie.

Yeah I would have liked to see that.
 
It kind of makes me sad that he didn't have enough money to shoot his original ending though lol.

Kevin Smith's first drafted ending for Red State was to have the climatic shootout at the church end when the true apocalypse begins: Trumpet blasts herald from the sky which turns blood red and is fills with angels, one of which impales Pastor Cooper with a flaming sword. Given the film's $5,000 special effects budget this ending was logistically impossible yet elements of it inspired the film's final ending.

Anyway the sermon was way intense and I was shocked more than a couple times. :up: Awesome movie.

I personally think in this case limiting the budget helped. It left it more in the mind of the audience and it was more grounded.
 

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