L.A Fitness Shooting

[BlackLantern]

I don't think so Pyro

 

[Anita18]

Sometimes when there's a shooting where the shooter is some sort of outcast, usually in school shootings, there's always that thing where people think "maybe if we got to know these people, we could stop this from happening again".

So how would that go in this situation? So are people, particularly women, going to start talking more to men that are unlucky and unsuccessful when it comes to women just so something like this won't happen?

Perhaps, but in most cases, the perpetrator MAKES themselves loners. It turns out that Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold were not mercilessly bullied by other students - they just had a rampant superiority complex and hated the world. From Sodini's online postings, he hated women and used various excuses as to why it was 30 million women's faults he couldn't get a date. I highly doubt that any sane person, when having trouble getting a girlfriend, would blame every single woman in America for it.

Cho Seung Hui had a supportive family and it wasn't like people would go out of their way to make fun of him, but would keep himself separated form his classmates. I think nobody can TRULY help people like this, they really have to help themselves. The most we can do is keep firearms out of their hands.

And I don't mind talking to a guy who's nervous and awkward around women. Some nice guys really do have bad luck. However, I don't think I should stick around a guy with anger issues and a "me against the world" attitude just so I can try and make him feel better, though.

Keep in mind, we don't have any viewpoints from the women who came in real-world contact with him. It's very likely he came off as a verifiable creep, not just awkward.

 

[BlackLantern]

Perhaps, but in most cases, the perpetrator MAKES themselves loners. It turns out that Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold were not mercilessly bullied by other students - they just had a rampant superiority complex and hated the world. From Sodini's online postings, he hated women and used various excuses as to why it was 30 million women's faults he couldn't get a date. I highly doubt that any sane person, when having trouble getting a girlfriend, would blame every single woman in America for it.

Cho Seung Hui had a supportive family and it wasn't like people would go out of their way to make fun of him, but would keep himself separated form his classmates. I think nobody can TRULY help people like this, they really have to help themselves. The most we can do is keep firearms out of their hands.

And I don't mind talking to a guy who's nervous and awkward around women. Some nice guys really do have bad luck. However, I don't think I should stick around a guy with anger issues and a "me against the world" attitude just so I can try and make him feel better, though.

Keep in mind, we don't have any viewpoints from the women who came in real-world contact with him. It's very likely he came off as a verifiable creep, not just awkward.

if someone wants a gun, they'll get one

 

[Anita18]

if someone wants a gun, they'll get one

True, but could we at least make it a little more difficult? It's downright embarrassing - in the case of Cho Seung Hui, he had had outpatient psychiatric help which should have disqualified him from buying a gun in the first place. But he managed to get some anyway, simply because he lied on his forms.

 

[BlackLantern]

I can't speak for other states, but I know here in Connecticut it is an exhaustive process(I should know, I have one)...any application for a permit requires a full background check and if you have any unresolved legal issues (even a speeding ticket) those have to be cleared up before they'll even look at the application for the permit

 

[Paradoxium]

However, I don't think I should stick around a guy with anger issues and a "me against the world" attitude just so I can try and make him feel better, though.

Reverse the sex, and you pretty much described your typical feminist. t:

 

[Anita18]

Reverse the sex, and you pretty much described your typical feminist. t:

Have any feminists shot up innocent civilians recently and blamed men for it? I thought the worst they could do was hoard cats or something.

 

[PyroChamber]

I highly doubt that any sane person, when having trouble getting a girlfriend, would blame every single woman in America for it.

You'd be surprised, there actually are guys that feel that way; although they wouldn't shoot women.

 

[Majic Walrus]

True, but could we at least make it a little more difficult? It's downright embarrassing - in the case of Cho Seung Hui, he had had outpatient psychiatric help which should have disqualified him from buying a gun in the first place. But he managed to get some anyway, simply because he lied on his forms.

So you would propose laws to keep guns out of the hands of people like this? People that ALREADY break the laws we have in place to get guns? As if they would somehow respect the new laws that we make?

 

[Anita18]

So you would propose laws to keep guns out of the hands of people like this? People that ALREADY break the laws we have in place to get guns? As if they would somehow respect the new laws that we make?

I'm not sure if it's actually against the law to lie on a form like that. I've never purchased a gun.

I mean that if we're going to allow people to have guns, some mandatory background check on the buyer should be in order. Sorry to discriminate against the mentally ill, but they really shouldn't have guns.

 

[Majic Walrus]

I'm not sure if it's actually against the law to lie on a form like that. I've never purchased a gun.

I mean that if we're going to allow people to have guns, some mandatory background check on the buyer should be in order. Sorry to discriminate against the mentally ill, but they really shouldn't have guns.

It is against the law to lie commit fraud and lying on official forms like that is against the law.

There is a mandatory background check, that's what that dude lied on and about. To have to submit to any additional checks seems to me to be an invasion of privacy.

 

[terry78]

I'm not sure if it's actually against the law to lie on a form like that. I've never purchased a gun.

I mean that if we're going to allow people to have guns, some mandatory background check on the buyer should be in order. Sorry to discriminate against the mentally ill, but they really shouldn't have guns.

Yes you have. Right before Bill recruited you into the Deadly Viper Assassination Squad.

 

[Paradoxium]

Have any feminists shot up innocent civilians recently and blamed men for it? I thought the worst they could do was hoard cats or something.

They do something more evil and sinister. They make a living whining and watching Sex and the City

 

[french joker]

if someone wants a gun, they'll get one

Not in my country


(yeah, it's not the subject but well...)

 

[french joker]

if someone wants a gun, they'll get one

Not in my country


(yeah, it's not the subject but well...)