Let's Lie to a Kid with Cancer AND Down-Syndrome

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  1. Asteroid-Man Registered

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    Not sure if I'm happier for the thought, or angrier with the dishonesty...
    http://www.cbc.ca/strombo/alt-news/...lls-a-dying-boys-wish-tea-with-the-queen.html
     
  2. JJJ's Ulcer Registered

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    I really don't see a problem with this. Helen Mirren should be applauded for doing this. She didn't have to, but she wanted to give the kid and his family a fun night during this extremely dark period. What's the alternative, that his parents tell the dying kid the Queen couldn't be buggered to meet him? Lying is not always a bad thing, especially if it makes people feel better and has no damaging future consequences. It's a shame the real Queen can't spare half an hour to visit a dying kid though. That's where the outrage should be directed.
     
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  3. Nathan Registered

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    Screw the Queen, he got to meet Hellen Mirren.
     
  4. pr0xyt0xin Shaper Savant

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    I agree with JJJ's Ulcer (what a strange thing to type)

    Lying itself is not bad, it's what you are lying about that is the moral quandary. In this case, you brought a child joy in his dying months. I say their conscience should be clear.
     
  5. Anita18 DANCE FOR ME, FUNNY MAN!

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    Helen Mirren is better than the real Queen. :oldrazz: I see no problem with this. As JJ said, no damaging future consequences.
     
  6. Asteroid-Man Registered

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    Why couldn't they just say - this is Helen Mirren - she's an actress who plays the Queen.
     
  7. JJJ's Ulcer Registered

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    Because the damn kid was dying and he wanted to meet the damn Queen, not an actress portraying her. Why is this such a huge deal for you? Everyone handled this as well as they could, except the real Queen of course. When Ron Perlman visited dying kids as Hellboy, should he have explained "actually kid, I'm just an actor PLAYING Hellboy, because Hellboy isn't real and it's important for you to know this...." Jeez, just be happy the family got to have one good night in an otherwise awful time in their lives.
     
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    That's different. The Queen is a real person. Hellboy and Batman aren't.
     
  9. JJJ's Ulcer Registered

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    Asteroid-Man, usually I like you, but today you're giving me fits of facepalm.
     
  10. Anita18 DANCE FOR ME, FUNNY MAN!

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    Like the kid really cares that much. :oldrazz: He just wants to be important to an important person.
     
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    The Queen, for whatever reason, couldnt meet the kid, so helen mirren stepped in and portrayed the person the kid wanted to meet. Its better he get to meet some he feels is the queen rather be disappointed in hearing that no, the queen cant be bothered to meet you.

    It really isn't a hard concept to understand. I mean at all. In the slightest. Just not difficult.
     
  12. Asteroid-Man Registered

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    Maybe it's time we all we stopped trying to outsmart the truth and let it have it's day!!

    I'm playing devil's advocate. :p
     
  13. pr0xyt0xin Shaper Savant

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    It's fine @Asteroid-Man. All kinds of news articles get their own threads. And how interesting would the title have been if it had just said "Kid with Cancer AND Down-Syndrome gets his dying wish"

    :yawn:
     
  14. Boom I got nothin'

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    The truth is often depressing.
     
  15. Anita18 DANCE FOR ME, FUNNY MAN!

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    There's a time and place for it. To lie about someone's health to their face, that's bad. For a parent to be brutally honest and tell one child that they prefer their sibling, that's bad too. The truth isn't always the best agenda. Depends on how you use it.

    I have a rule that I live my life by. Don't f*** up people. Sometimes by lying, you're only postponing the f***ing up. Then it's better to be honest right away. But if the truth would f*** them up no matter what, then keep it to yourself.
     
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    Man, what kind of queen denies a dying 10-year old boy's fairly simple wish? She couldn't have scheduled him in? Really?

    Stay classy, your majesty.
     
  17. C. Lee Superherohype Administrator

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    The article he links to about it at least put it nicer - Helen Mirren Fulfills A Dying Boy's Wish: Tea With The Queen
     
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    I do see the moral quandary here.

    I don't personally agree with it, but I appreciate the sentiment behind what they did.
     
  19. The Guard Registered

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    I think we all know it's cooler to have met Helen Mirren than the real Queen anyway.
     
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    I don't see the issue here.

    A slight deception to make a dying kid who doesn't know the difference anyway happy and fulfill his wish.

    The real Queen was unable or unwilling to make time for him, so Helen Mirren IMO stepped in graciously.

    There are times when being brutally honest isn't the right call.
     
  21. Asteroid-Man Registered

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    Yeah, I was about to just post that but then I thought this title was a bit funnier.
     
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    Or, Queen Can't Be Bothered to have Tea with Dying Boy.
     
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    "Queen Hates Sick Kids"
     
  24. Duran Man The Seventh Stranger

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    He's terminal, so it won't be of any consequence in the end.
     
  25. ThePhantasm 2 sexy 4 a stormtrooper

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    Interestingly enough, that comes from a movie in which everyone angsts about lying and then still lies in the end (faking their death, quitting being a cop to work outside the law, etc.)

    So the point might not work there.
     

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