Let's talk about Costumes...(please)

[The Guard]

I think the silliness of Night Owl's look should be that you should be able to see that he's let himself go a bit - I love that Night Owl is tubby. But it should look like it WOULD be fairly bad-ass if he was still in shape.

The whole "letting himself" go angle isn't something we need to see constantly, but we will see it when he's outside the suit. The previous scripts have that great "Can't close his armor" bit when he's suiting up that drives the point home.

But really, the entire concept behind Night Owl is that he's an absurd superhero masquerading as a serious vigilante. There's no reason to take this man and his methods seriously, and it makes Dan even more "pathetic" a character when that's what he wants to go back to when he's older. Yes, he can probably kick ass and might look "cool", but that's also part of the absurdity of the Nite Owl concept.

As for the actual suit itself, I'm hoping for the sort of thing they haven't yet done for Batman - Night Owl's costume IS basically a re-jigged Batman costume after all. Just a really sturdy looking suit with a cloth exterior, dark grey and dark brown, leather for boots, cowl and gloves and cloth cape.

We might get that, but previous concepts have revolved around a high-tech "armor".

Ditch the stupid head flap and re-design the cowl a little bit (maybe a tad more like Frank Quitely's Owl Man in "Earthe 2"), maybe re-design the wing-cape bits a little because they will look awful in real life, but otherwise have it be a fairly faithful design.

I always thought the helmet for the movie version should be more cowl-like with built in amber night vision lenses, rather than "goggles".

 

[sad lieutenant]

I suspect that we won't get a fat dreiberg. A washed up, pathetic and vulnerable dreiberg, for sure. But Wilson wasn't pitting on the pounds before production... They will keep him lean and dashing to put asses in seats, I suspect.

 

[Rust]

I suspect that we won't get a fat dreiberg. A washed up, pathetic and vulnerable dreiberg, for sure. But Wilson wasn't pitting on the pounds before production... They will keep him lean and dashing to put asses in seats, I suspect.

I sorta fear that too. Wilson probably wont be a visually chubby Dreiberg, but I do believe they will hint at the "Can't close his armor"-thing. They just HAVE to.

 

[sad lieutenant]

I sorta fear that too. Wilson probably wont be a visually chubby Dreiberg, but I do believe they will hint at the "Can't close his armor"-thing. They just HAVE to.

I dunno about the latter point. If audiences see a borderline-emaciated dude complaining that he can't put his Owl costume on, it simply will not make a lick of sense.

I think Snyder & Co.'s take can be summed up like this: Wilson can pull off the emotional vulnerability, etc. of Dreiberg's character without being a fatty. Wilson's a good lookin' dude, so why **** that up. Come March of 2009, when guys want to see the new movie by the dude who made 300 (and I assure you that this will be the gist of their mainstream marketing), their wives/girlfriends will be on board because, after all, Wilson is hot and so is that Gray's Anatomy guy.

 

[The Guard]

I don't think Dan Dreiberg is supposed to be "fat". He's just a big guy who let himself go a little bit. I wouldn't be surprised if Patrick Wilson puts on some weight for the role. And yes, he's attractive, but makeup can do wonders, and Dan is supposed to be attractive in a certain light anyway.

 

[brobdingnag]

I don't think Dan Dreiberg is supposed to be "fat". He's just a big guy who let himself go a little bit. I wouldn't be surprised if Patrick Wilson puts on some weight for the role. And yes, he's attractive, but makeup can do wonders, and Dan is supposed to be attractive in a certain light anyway.

Agreed, he's not depicted as being fat in the book, he is just a typical 40 something who is a bit thick around the waist from being out of action. Its not something to dwell on.

 

[StorminNorman]

I am okay with any costume for any character.

As long as Dr. Manhattan has his long, glorious, glowing, shape shifting blue package.

 

[WalterKovacs]

I am okay with any costume for any character.

As long as Dr. Manhattan has his long, glorious, glowing, shape shifting blue package.

Fair enough. But to be partcular...
Circumsized or non?
How much hair?
What tone of blue? Like Navy/Royal coochie stabber or Baby blue pork-sword?
How much movement?
What shape does it shift into?
And what color, pray, is the baby batter?

 

[Gilpesh]

Circumsized or non?

Non.

How much hair?

None.

What tone of blue? Like Navy/Royal coochie stabber or Baby blue pork-sword?

More of a lighter blue.

How much movement?

Realistically floppy.

What shape does it shift into?

A drill.

And what color, pray, is the baby batter?

Glowing. Almost like Sin City blood.

 

[StorminNorman]

Fair enough. But to be partcular...
Circumsized or non?
How much hair?
What tone of blue? Like Navy/Royal coochie stabber or Baby blue pork-sword?
How much movement?
What shape does it shift into?
And what color, pray, is the baby batter?

Dr. Manhattan doesn't need a turtle neck.
Bald as his dome.
This tone
It should slither like a snake.
A large hammer.

 

[Watson]

I am okay with any costume for any character.

As long as Dr. Manhattan has his long, glorious, glowing, shape shifting blue package.

LOL .

What are the odds of them actually showing it on screen? Will it be rated R?

 

[Ryudoz]

LOL .

What are the odds of them actually showing it on screen? Will it be rated R?

I would assume since there's already been mention of some Sally Jupiter nudity and if Laurie gets some naked time in the movie, it will be rated R. No reason to not get some bright blue baggage on the screen.

 

[CaptainGenerica]

Question about Silk Spectre 2's costume in the comics: the way it's drawn isn't too clear to me, but what it consists of is a black swimsuit-ish thing with a dramatic neckline, and over that a translucent (presumably silk) yellow tunic/skirt cinched by a belt, am I right?

I could never tell whether the yellow thing was meant to be separate from the black thing, transparent and floaty (I guess, Spectral), or if it was all one piece (i.e. a single yellow-and-black garment), or what.

 

[CARNAGE-COMETH]

Found this, posted on the manips thread too. The costumes look good in this, even though it's just a painting:

Man that is the Shiat!! I want a wallpaper of that!

 

[arman200]

I suspect that we won't get a fat dreiberg. A washed up, pathetic and vulnerable dreiberg, for sure. But Wilson wasn't pitting on the pounds before production... They will keep him lean and dashing to put asses in seats, I suspect.

I'm sure he's trying to pack on some pounds:

In a separate interview, however, his co-star Washington revealed that Wilson has already shared the news with his current co-workers. “I keep teasing him,” she laughed. “Whenever he eats candy or something, I go: ‘You’re playing a superhero! I don’t think you should be eating pretzels!’”
Reminded that Wilson’s Nite-Owl actually has a sizable gut in Alan Moore’s classic tale of what happens when heroes go beyond their super years, Washington responded: “He is [supposed to be out of shape], yes. That’s what [Wilson] always says. But I always go ‘Yeah, but you still want to be defined!”
Making matters even clearer, Wilson interrupted his own dodgy responses to point out a child’s artwork that he kept eyeballing on the wall nearby. “Look at the thing I’m reading,” he said, motioning to a painting entitled “Owl’s Hollow.” With a grin, he added: “But, I didn’t say anything.”
Adding “Yes yes, I know the [book], I know it all,” Wilson (who was drinking a pounds-packing protein smoothie during the interview) allowed himself the following statement on his impending journey alongside Snyder and arguably the most well-respected comic book title of all time.



http://moviesblog.mtv.com/2007/07/24/patrick-wilson-talks-and-co-stars-confirm-watchmen-is-next/

 

[Rust]

Yeah, I remember that interview, but I just looked for his confirmation on the part, so I didn't really notice the weight-hints.

 

[Adrian Veidt]

It might be a nice touch if they put a little weight on Wilson, which he might shed during the course of the flick. Just to add some scope for the passage of time and to assist his acting. Have you guys seen his performance in "Angels in America"? Don't mistake his performance in "The Alama" for his real talent. Some people seem to believe he's the weak spot in this cast, but no takers.

 

[arman200]

I really dug his bit in "hard Candy".

 

[sad lieutenant]

I'm sure he's trying to pack on some pounds:

In a separate interview, however, his co-star Washington revealed that Wilson has already shared the news with his current co-workers. “I keep teasing him,” she laughed. “Whenever he eats candy or something, I go: ‘You’re playing a superhero! I don’t think you should be eating pretzels!’”
Reminded that Wilson’s Nite-Owl actually has a sizable gut in Alan Moore’s classic tale of what happens when heroes go beyond their super years, Washington responded: “He is [supposed to be out of shape], yes. That’s what [Wilson] always says. But I always go ‘Yeah, but you still want to be defined!”
Making matters even clearer, Wilson interrupted his own dodgy responses to point out a child’s artwork that he kept eyeballing on the wall nearby. “Look at the thing I’m reading,” he said, motioning to a painting entitled “Owl’s Hollow.” With a grin, he added: “But, I didn’t say anything.”
Adding “Yes yes, I know the [book], I know it all,” Wilson (who was drinking a pounds-packing protein smoothie during the interview) allowed himself the following statement on his impending journey alongside Snyder and arguably the most well-respected comic book title of all time.



http://moviesblog.mtv.com/2007/07/24/patrick-wilson-talks-and-co-stars-confirm-watchmen-is-next/

Clearly, Wilson's co-star razzing him about pretzels is no indication that the dude was intentionally cultivating a paunch for Watchmen. It wouldn't surprise me if he ate pretzels on the set of Little Children, as well.

As for the "pounds-packing protein smoothie" comment, this is coming directly out of Larry Carrol's ass. The rube has an almost magical ability to cover the Hollywood beat without raising an eyebrow, no matter what the scoop. Seriously: He's with MTV, MTV can get him anywhere, so he's there. And that's great and all, but he's a fawking hack. If Wilson were "putting on the pounds", why would he be drinking Slim-Fast? Carrol's parenthetical comment was borne out of a need to pantomime real insight and fill up his modest blog-cocoon with some pixels.

I hope I'm wrong about my bet against a pudgy Dreiberg in this film -- I simply need to read or see something more credible before I begin to eat my shoe.

In the mean-time, check out Larry Carrol awkwardly beseeching James Franco for a "standard on-camera introduction". Note that Franco is 1) stoned out of his mind, and 2) painfully put-off by the philo dough-transparency of Carrol's schilling for Viacom. The net result: unadulterated schadenfreude!

http://moviesblog.mtv.com/2007/12/07/my-bizarre-moment-with-james-franco/#more-1402

 

[arman200]

yeah, I'm not a firm believer in the MTV scene, but I read that article somewhere else, and I couldn't find it anywhere else but here. I haven't seen pat wilson lately, but hopefully he has packed on some weight, or wearing some great makeup. I was less interested in what his co-star said about pretzels, and more into the fact that he constantly reminded her that dan was chubby.

I want photos!

 

[sad lieutenant]

Here here!

 

[Antonello Blueberry]

http://kungfurodeo.com/2008/02/08/who-watches-the-watchmenstills/

Not photos, but a description of some of the costumes.

 

[Lobster Charlie]

"The whole thing looks like “LA Confidential” meets “Superman: The Movie.”

I love that. The descriptions weren't very precise at all, but that line alone gives me some excitement.

 

[regwec]

I want Manhattan to have a glorious glowing cock

hahah!

 

[Carmine Falcone]

"The whole thing looks like “LA Confidential” meets “Superman: The Movie.”

A dude describing stills from a movie. Long live fans and the internet.