London Terror Plot

[Spider-Bite]

maybe this is a nit pick, but wouldn't the title be defused bomb? i mean when its talking about the situation maybe diffuse would be correct, but they were talking about the bomb/car, it should have been defuse, shotty journalism.

shotty editor.

 

[Memphis Slim]

It doesn't mean that Bush himself plans these things. He's just the "good ole' boy" everyone wants to have a beer with from Texas that PNAC rolls out to the public. Oh, and we want to have royal families like they have in Ole Blighty, so it's convenient that his old man was president. The irony being of course, that he is a teetotaler from a Nazi-sympathetic family of incredible wealth in New England. One of the greatest illusions we've had pulled off was making people believe they have anything in common with the Bush Crime Family. (Besides perhaps serious substance abuse problems)

wow..........just.........wow

 

[Matt]

I was wondering when somebody was gonna reach for that last straw.

On one hand ol' Bush is an idiot.........but the other hand you paint him planning things that make the Red Skull look like a pre-schooler.


Hey....how 'bout this??? Al Queada thinks this is a prime opportunity to test the will of the new guy. It worked in similar fashion with Spain....right? They got attacked....the new guy pulled them out of Iraq.

But naaaaah,,,,,that makes too much sense. Let's stick with the "Red Bush" story.

Just pointing out the convinent timing. And the difference is, Gordon Brown was already talking about changes and possible withdrawls. They didn't need to "test his will". This would be counter-productive for terrorists.

 

[The Overlord]

How about Al Queada just being stupid. Like a bunch of rabid dogs that over play their hand, too much? They don't get it. It's when nothing happens, that people like most of you think this thing is over blown.....

I doubt it is Al-Qaeda, one can be an Islamic extremist and not be a card carrying member of Al-Qaeda. They could be just a bunch of dopes inspired by Al-Qaeda. Al-Qaeda would be a bit more clever than these guys, they seem like the terrorist B-team. Lots of idiots try to copy Al-Qaeda, but aren't members.

Remember a while back, a bunch of Islamic extremists in canada devised a plan to storm parliment, behead the PM and take over the CBC. That never would have worked, which those guys wre inspired by Al-Qaeda, rather than being members themselves.

 

[chamber-music]

one of the terrorists arrested is a iraqi doctor

 

[Memphis Slim]

STRAIGHT FROM THE IRA


Jordanian doctor held in UK bombing probe

LONDON - A Jordanian medical doctor, Mohammed Jamil Abdelqader Asha (I thought it would be Charlie McDoogan), has been identified as a suspect in the U.K. terror plot, according to British police sources.
Asha and a 27-year-old woman – believed to be his wife, Marwah – were arrested by British police on a highway near Cheshire, England over the weekend.
Police sources confirmed that Asha is one of seven people currently in police custody. He has not been charged with any crimes, but police have been searching his home in Chesterton, Newcastle-under-Lyme, north of London.

British police have arrested five other suspects while conducting raids across a country on its highest level of alert since two car bombs failed to explode in central London on Friday and two men rammed a Jeep Cherokee into the Glasgow airport's entrance the following day.
A British government security official said a loose U.K.-wide network appeared to be behind the attacks but investigators were struggling to pin down suspects' identities.

His relatives say that they do not believe Asha would ever be involved with terrorists or any extremist group. They describe him as serious, smart, professional and a bit of a loner. They say he is a devout Muslim, and deny he has any terrorism connections or inclinations.
In Jordan, his brother Ahmed told The Associated Press he had heard the media reports and said his 26-year-old sibling "is not a Muslim extremist, and he's not a fanatic."
"It's nonsense because he has no terror connections," he said.
Asha's family stechnician, and that they have a 1 1/2-year-old sonaid that his wife, Marwah, is a university-trained lab.
A local doctor
Asha graduated from the Jordanian University medical school in 2004. He registered in 2005 with the General Medical Council, the British medical-doctor registry, according to the GMC's official Web site.
He has been working as a physician at the University Hospital of North Staffordshire, Stoke on Trent, according to local media reports.
Scotland Yard has still not officially released any suspects' names. Police in Britain often withhold the name of those arrested in terrorism-related cases.
Asha's family said that he was born in Saudi Arabia and raised in Jordan. His family, they say, is Palestinian.



What a surprise! His family says he's innocent! No terrorist ties....... I wouldn't have expected such a comment from his FAMILY.

 

[chamber-music]

By friday they had already traced to london cars to scotland. Good police work

 

[The Question]

STRAIGHT FROM THE IRA

You know, all I was saying is that it was possible that it was Irish militants. Possible. Didn't say that's what it was. Simply that the plan sounded alot like an atack made by the RIRA years ago, and that it was possible that it could be them again. Because, you know, there are more than two terrorist groups on the planet.

What a surprise! His family says he's innocent! No terrorist ties....... I wouldn't have expected such a comment from his FAMILY.

Whenever anyone gets arrested for any serious crime, how likely is it that his family will say that they think he's guilty? This isn't the Muslim community being uncooperative. This is a family not believing that their son tried to kill somebody. It's perfectly natural.

 

[Addendum]

Whenever anyone gets arrested for any serious crime, how likely is it that his family will say that they think he's guilty? This isn't the Muslim community being uncooperative. This is a family not believing that their son tried to kill somebody. It's perfectly natural.

You forget his mindset. Love for a family member ceases, when that person is accused of a crime, especially a "terrorist attack"

 

[The Question]

You forget his mindset. Love for a family member ceases, when that person is accused of a crime, especially a "terrorist attack"

The thing that really confuses me is that he's always going on about how the Muslim Community doesn't help. But honestly, what more could they do? It's not like all the Mulsims on Earth get together every third friday of the month for coffee and bridge at the local Mosq and openly discuss their personal lives in intricate detail, including and especially whatever crimes they may have commited recently or are planning to commit. The average Mulsim doesn't know any more than the Average anyone else.

 

[Addendum]

But Celldog "knows" more because he listens to talk radio.

I'm more a fan of rational thought

 

[ServantofAllah]

The thing that really confuses me is that he's always going on about how the Muslim Community doesn't help. But honestly, what more could they do? It's not like all the Mulsims on Earth get together every third friday of the month for coffee and bridge at the local Mosq and openly discuss their personal lives in intricate detail, including and especially whatever crimes they may have commited recently or are planning to commit. The average Mulsim doesn't know any more than the Average anyone else.

As a muslim i couldnt agree more with your post.

 

[Memphis Slim]

You know, all I was saying is that it was possible that it was Irish militants. Possible. Didn't say that's what it was. Simply that the plan sounded alot like an atack made by the RIRA years ago, and that it was possible that it could be them again. Because, you know, there are more than two terrorist groups on the planet.



Whenever anyone gets arrested for any serious crime, how likely is it that his family will say that they think he's guilty? This isn't the Muslim community being uncooperative. This is a family not believing that their son tried to kill somebody. It's perfectly natural.

That's what I meant. But since you're so quick on the Muslim defense trigger, you missed it. If you ask family, they always claim the innocence of the relative that's jailed. That's why I don't understand why they even bother to ask them sometimes.

 

[Memphis Slim]

As a muslim i couldnt agree more with your post.

You? I never would have guessed.

 

[ServantofAllah]

You? I never would have guessed.

what are you trying to achieve in this thread? please elaborate.


how bias you are astonishes me, there are crazy people al over the world regardless of their religion, noone in the right mind would do what these guys and Al-Qaeda do.

I dont see people like them as muslims nor do i see christians that do wrong as christians.

 

[Sun_Down]

Yay! Another Memphis Slim Muslim-bashing thread!

*grabs popcorn and waits for the fireworks*

 

[Memphis Slim]

The thing that really confuses me is that he's always going on about how the Muslim Community doesn't help. But honestly, what more could they do?

They could speak out against the radicals more. How about marching in the streets against radicals instead of cartoons?? How about rallying in the streets to get more support for law enforcement instead of rallying against Salmon Rushdee's knighthood and calling for "death" to the queen? .


It's not like all the Mulsims on Earth get together every third friday of the month for coffee and bridge at the local Mosq and openly discuss their personal lives in intricate detail, including and especially whatever crimes they may have commited recently or are planning to commit. The average Mulsim doesn't know any more than the Average anyone else.

And you know this how????????? You hanging out at the mosque now?? Or are you basing this on your one or two muslims buddies you have?

 

[ServantofAllah]

And you know this how????????? You hanging out at the mosque now?? Or are you basing this on your one or two muslims buddies you have?

i ''hang out'' at the mosque and i have a muslim buddies and what he is saying is true.

 

[The Question]

They could speak out against the radicals more. How about marching in the streets against radicals instead of cartoons?? How about rallying in the streets to get more support for law enforcement instead of rallying against Salmon Rushdee's knighthood and calling for "death" to the queen? .

What the hell kind of good would protesting do? You protest against figures of authority. Not wanted international criminals who aren't going to listen to you either way. Protesting against Al-Qaeda would be a complete waste of time.

And you know this how????????? You hanging out at the mosque now?? Or are you basing this on your one or two muslims buddies you have?

I'm basing this on the fact that not ever Mulsim on the planet knows every other Muslim on the planet, and most have no information in regards to terrorism whatsoever.

 

[sinewave]

They could speak out against the radicals more. How about marching in the streets against radicals instead of cartoons?? How about rallying in the streets to get more support for law enforcement instead of rallying against Salmon Rushdee's knighthood and calling for "death" to the queen? .

that's a great idea. gather in large groups to speak out against terrorism. that way al qaeda can blow all of them up at once. celldog you shrewd s.o.b., you.

And you know this how????????? You hanging out at the mosque now?? Or are you basing this on your one or two muslims buddies you have?

what's with the red text and bolding and all that? do you think we can't see your posts unless you do that? it comes off as someone who's unhinged. try some valium, it'll help mellow you out.

 

[ServantofAllah]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JARF7q2S6ns


according to Slims knowledge all christians must be CRAZY.

 

[Memphis Slim]

i ''hang out'' at the mosque and i have a muslim buddies and what he is saying is true.

I guess you don't hang out at these...


A conspiracy of silence

By Bill Narvey [ in American Thinker]
Britain's Channel Four presented a documentary showing that imams at Birmingham's Green Lane mosque and some other British mosques previously thought to be moderate, in fact preach radical Islamic beliefs. Such reports have surfaced regarding some mosques in North America and no doubt Europe has similar houses of worship as well.

These revelations should frighten the socks off Westerners, yet whatever sense of fear and concern Westerners may have felt at first hearing of such news, complacency, multiculturalist delusions and political correctness soon begin to numb fears, still tongues and cloud Westerners' vision of the clear, present and imminent deadly threat that radical Islam poses to the West.

Robert Spencer, writing in Front Page Magazine [See below], gave further insight into the significance of this investigative documentary and into the defensive reaction of leading British Muslim voices and organizations. Instead of joining their non-Muslim fellow British citizens in denouncing the imams and those in the subject mosques for their extremism, UK mostly blame the media for fostering Islamophobia by having made public the ugly truth that these British Mosques are preaching and teaching Islamic radicalism.

Radical Muslims and supporters have all along been playing Western non-Muslims for fools. Imams do not preach in empty mosques. They preach in mosques attended by Muslim congregants. The Muslim congregants of Birmingham's Green Mosque knew full well of the radical views, so incompatible with Western society and threatening to their fellow non-Muslim British citizens, being preached in their mosque.

A Muslim congregation's silence in the face of a radical imam strengthens and empowers radical Islam to the West's extreme prejudice. This conspiracy of silence aids Muslim extremist imams and other leaders living in the West to go undetected and therefore unhindered in their efforts to promote, influence, spread and inculcate radical Islamic beliefs among Western Muslims.

 

[Memphis Slim]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JARF7q2S6ns


according to Slims knowledge all christians must be CRAZY.

Tell you what.....when we start getting multiple incidents of Christians driving exploding SUV's into airports, setting car bombs full of nails to get maximum carnage or blowing themselves up while screaming "Jesus is Lord", you have nothing to say. You couldn't answer the tough questions when you had your own Islam thread. Now, you wanna talk?

All of the current violence that has everyone on edge is coming out of Islamic kitchens. Can't you smell what the Raq is cookin"?? So you can show all the whacked out so-called christian cult groups you want. As crazy as some are, they still ain't strapping on C4.

IRA.......geeez.....


DISCLAIMER: " NOT ALL MUSLIMS ARE TERRORISTS! (OKAY....WE GOT THAT!!)

 

[Addendum]

So yesterday it was Communism. Today it's terrorism

What will be the next "big fear maker thing"

 

[ServantofAllah]

Tell you what.....when we start getting multiple incidents of Christians driving exploding SUV's into airports, setting car bombs full of nails to get maximum carnage or blowing themselves up while screaming "Jesus is Lord", you have nothing to say. You couldn't answer the tough questions when you had your own Islam thread. Now, you wanna talk?

All of the current violence that has everyone on edge is coming out of Islamic kitchens. Can't you smell what the Raq is cookin"?? So you can show all the whacked out so-called christian cult groups you want. As crazy as some are, they still ain't strapping on C4.

IRA.......geeez.....


DISCLAIMER: " NOT ALL MUSLIMS ARE TERRORISTS! (OKAY....WE GOT THAT!!)

IRA are christian catholics so they're not christian terrorists?

just because the western media doesnt name them christian terrorists doesnt mean they're not christian, you're definetly brainwashed like that fat chick in the video.

and again These acts may be committed by people who call themselves Muslims, but they violate essential Islamic principles.

It is increasingly recognised that the terrorists in no way represent mainstream Islam, some prefer to call them jihadists, but this is not very satisfactory. Extremists and unscrupulous politicians have purloined the word for their own purposes, but the real meaning of jihad is not "holy war" but "struggle" or "effort." Us Muslims are commanded to make a massive attempt on all fronts - social, economic, intellectual, ethical and spiritual - to put the will of God into practice.

Sometimes a military effort may be a regrettable necessity in order to defend decent values.

Prophet Muhammad

"We are coming back from the Lesser Jihad [ie the battle] and returning to the Greater Jihad" - the far more important, difficult and momentous struggle to reform our own society and our own hearts.