Looper

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I'm actually fine with Kid Blue's limited screen time. I honestly can't stand the actor who plays him, so the less I see of him, the better.

I feel like Kid Blue is pretty much a part of the 'world building' to flesh out Joe's associates in the Looping biz. While we see him as this annoying tool, he is also so tragically pathetic that he comes off as a strange and compelling character.
 
Thank the maker I'm not alone on this. WB would be stupid not hire Rian.

Or even Justice League. But, it seems he just wants to stick with his own stuff for now while he can.
 
I feel like Kid Blue is pretty much a part of the 'world building' to flesh out Joe's associates in the Looping biz. While we see him as this annoying tool, he is also so tragically pathetic that he comes off as a strange and compelling character.

Really? It felt like his subplot was incomplete. Something was missing or maybe cut. For him to come into the end like that was kind of strange and awkward considering how it played out.
 
He failed all the way right up to the end...arc complete.
 
Saw it last night and man what a movie. This is how scifi should be when dealing with time travel, present the time travel most of us know then put a new unique spin on the idea. Willis looked like he gave a damn for once and gordon levitt was more then up to the task of carrying the movie on his shoulderS and the costume and makeup department deserves an academy award for making levitt look like a young willis convincingly.
 
Saw it last night and man what a movie. This is how scifi should be when dealing with time travel, present the time travel most of us know then put a new unique spin on the idea. Willis looked like he gave a damn for once and gordon levitt was more then up to the task of carrying the movie on his shoulderS and the costume and makeup department deserves an academy award for making levitt look like a young willis convincingly.

I am sure it will be one of the major contenders - I know it will be in consideration, I hope it makes it as far as a nomination, too!
 
Saw it, too. A solid 8.5 from me.

Nothing groundbreaking regarding time travel, but Johnson used all the existing stuff to tell a great and touching story and, at times, thought provoking. Great acting, especially from that damn kid. Blunt was solid, Willis actually tried and his usual smug mannerisms were actually essential to the performances.

Major kudos to JGL for being a younger version of what Bruce Willis is now. At times I was really creeped out by their similarity. We need more original movies like this.
 
Thank the maker I'm not alone on this. WB would be stupid not hire Rian.

You're not. That's what I kept thinking throughout the film myself. He would nail the tone of Flash, hIs character, and that world.
 
I actually realized something after a third viewing of this movie. The arc involving the bruce willis character (where they show hi year by year)...that was actually an altered arc of what he originally did. It didn't dawn on me until a third viewing that he was originally going to france until the whole seth thing happened and he talked to Abe. This explains why the first bruce willis was shot and killed...with no dead wife from china, he has no motivation to escape. Really increased the legitimacy and importance of the seth character.
 
Saw it, too. A solid 8.5 from me.

Nothing groundbreaking regarding time travel, but Johnson used all the existing stuff to tell a great and touching story and, at times, thought provoking. Great acting, especially from that damn kid. Blunt was solid, Willis actually tried and his usual smug mannerisms were actually essential to the performances.

Major kudos to JGL for being a younger version of what Bruce Willis is now. At times I was really creeped out by their similarity. We need more original movies like this.

Perfectly sums up my opinion :up:
 
I actually realized something after a third viewing of this movie. The arc involving the bruce willis character (where they show hi year by year)...that was actually an altered arc of what he originally did. It didn't dawn on me until a third viewing that he was originally going to france until the whole seth thing happened and he talked to Abe. This explains why the first bruce willis was shot and killed...with no dead wife from china, he has no motivation to escape. Really increased the legitimacy and importance of the seth character.

I see it as a loop aka circle that can move around but it still remains a loop. We see young Joe kill old Joe. The young Joe that killed the old Joe is who Bruce Willis is. When Bruce goes back in time, he has to in order to save his wife, the circle moves in relation to time travel. When JGL kills himself, then his circle is broken and Bruce disappears. Had JGL not shot himself or his hand, Bruce would have still killed Emily Blunt and the rain maker would have been angry at Bruce and sought him out in the future, causing him to go back in time in order to kill the young rain maker. So oddly, Bruce going back in time is what caused his present. Kinda perplexing. There are many different possibilities on loops/circles but they all are cyclical unless the circle is broken.
 
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Its the same thing I always go back to from the time machine movie with guy pierce. In the end hes basically told his fate can never be escaped and its predetermined loop never ends. In that movie his wife died and he invented the time machine to change that fate but if she never died then time travel never would be invented thus no matter what he did she had to die. With this movie the rainmaker was always gonna grow up regardless but him being good or bad was yet to be determined.

My only 2 real questions are what did old joe think was gonna happen when he killed the kid? He cant go back to the future so did he think he was gonna just evaporate? He was gonna die 30 years into the future regardless.

2nd why did jeff daniels say the longer old joe runs around the worse it gets? does that cause a time paradox or something?
 
The longer the old Joe runs around being bad means he can change the future/circle orientation Abe knows (it may be totally different now) but it will still end with Old Joe dying of old age or whatever and young Joe becoming old and being sent back in time to be killed by his younger self...and the loop starts over. It's why they showed two different loops in the movie. The first being Bruce escaping JGL and the second being JGL killing Bruce but then JGL becomes Bruce who goes back in time to the events from the movie.
 
Thank Shiva I'm not alone in this.

Rian is my new favorite for helming Flash. If it doesn't happen, I'll be pissed at WB for missing a grand opportunity.
 
Yeah, I'd really like to see Rian helm a Flash movie. Or any superhero movie, for that matter. I think he could make a great Batman or Justice League film too.
 
I'd like to see him go at it with Justice League but I sense it would probably be too much pressure [at this stage of his career] for him to handle. That said, I'm sure he could pull it off if he were offered the gig.
 
Okay, so what happens to the timeline now that [blackout]Joe killed himself[/blackout]? Alternate timeline or are the events of the film the new status quo of these characters?
 
Really? It felt like his subplot was incomplete. Something was missing or maybe cut. For him to come into the end like that was kind of strange and awkward considering how it played out.
yeah i kept waiting for some big reveal like jeff Daniels was going to be future him or something lol.
 
I think the moral of this movie's story can be summed up in one phrase:

A selfish action begets an endless cycle of death, violence and destruction, but a selfless act can break it.
 
Yeah, I'd really like to see Rian helm a Flash movie. Or any superhero movie, for that matter. I think he could make a great Batman or Justice League film too.
If I had my pick, it would be Batman. Going back to Brick, Rian proved he has the noir sensibilities for the character, and his last two films have been colorful enough to show he wouldn't shy away from the more fantastical side of Batman's universe.

Granted, I'm sure he could rock The Flash or Justice League too, and I'd rejoice if he took either gig ('cause you know he's gonna get offers), but I really think he's exactly the guy Batman needs to take things in a different direction than Nolan while not totally alienating the fans of Nolan's world.
 
Really? It felt like his subplot was incomplete. Something was missing or maybe cut. For him to come into the end like that was kind of strange and awkward considering how it played out.

there are by the way ~40min of deleted scenes. and rian hopes to get them on the dvd maybe even with commentary
 
If I had my pick, it would be Batman. Going back to Brick, Rian proved he has the noir sensibilities for the character, and his last two films have been colorful enough to show he wouldn't shy away from the more fantastical side of Batman's universe.

Granted, I'm sure he could rock The Flash or Justice League too, and I'd rejoice if he took either gig ('cause you know he's gonna get offers), but I really think he's exactly the guy Batman needs to take things in a different direction than Nolan while not totally alienating the fans of Nolan's world.

I honestly wouldn't mind if he took a solo franchise first, like Batman. Rian's style certainly compliments the middle ground between Nolan's realm and a more fantastical route [waiting to explored].

I'm still hoping for Duncan Jones, Kim-Ji Woon, Neill Blomkamp, Park-Chan Wook, Guillermo Del Toro, Darren Aronofsky or Alfonso Cuaron to be signed by WB for Justice League, Flash and Wonder Woman anywho.
 
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