Looper

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Finally got to see this, and wow, what an awesome sci-fi movie. JGL, Bruce, Emily Blunt (who was also amazingly hot as usual) and especially the kid are all amazing in this. I just love the universe it creates, and the fact that you think about the movie a lot after watching it.

I did not see the ending coming at all, or the shift in the 2nd half of the movie were it almost totally changed, but in a very good way. Didnt see the TK thing coming at all either, its obviously help that I stayed totally spoiler free for this. JGL doing Bruce's expressions, etc was great to watch as was the whole movie, 9/10.

 

[Hunter Rider]

I saw this last week, cool film. I liked how it took influences like Terminator and Shane, and molded them into it's own identity that felt like a fresh twist on the time travel concept. It also used it's budget really well with clever use of background shots to create the futuristic look without ever lingering for detail.

The action was solid and the acting was good all round, JGL and Emily Blunt were particularly good, and I felt the ending was a satisfactory pay-off to the story.

 

[Sawyer]

Finally watched this. Pierce Gagnon just solidified himself as the best actor of his age group.

 

[Kane52630]

Just don't piss him off.

 

[Wontkins]

Hated it. It was alright up until he stepped foot on that farm.

 

[Warhammer]

I also had this beef, and forgive me if this has been already discussed.

Spoiler

How Joe killing himself would actually effect the old joe..IE make him vanish.. because clearly the movie would have never took place if the timeline's were truly connected..the movie really would have never took place, so essentially we would blink back to the point of the films start -1 sec to new joe failing to kill himself. SO the fact that young joe can kill himself and make the old joe vanish, yet young joe is still in the field and dead..still creates a massive nonsensical paradox.

The film seems to suggest that one can impact the future, but the real impact of what they were suggesting should have taken the memory, the impact and was executed as dumbed down in scope.

I guess it would have clearly worked if the prevailing view on time travel, that separate and alternate realities are created by traveling back in time..but since you cannot effect your actual timeline this way, it would take some of the purpose and motivation out of the film.

In the end, it seems like the result of all the time travel was an amalgam of the "alternate timeline theory" but the film clearly had a priority that what happened in the past could effect the future characters dramatically...IE they contradict themselves and don't do it that well.

I'm not really suggesting there is an explanation to this plot whole..I think it was something that just doesnt make sense and the directors thought it would just be something most people wouldnt be smart enough to catch...in effect it works out, because I still think it was an excellent film.

You're absolutely right. However, we the viewers of any time travel film know the one rule. Never question it logically because there will always lie one inconsistency.

 

[redhawk23]

Johnson himself has actually said its basically the alternate realities situation. In the earlier scene with the other escaped older looper, when his younger self is being tortured and the old man keeps losing limbs, Johnson has described that situation as "cascading alternate timelines."

As for the motivation for acting despite the fact that you "can't change your own timeline" it's not really particularly different than how we act anyways. Anything we do creates and destroys several possibilities (and therefore under multiverse theory, entire alternate universes) Our consciousness though just kind of moves through these different scenarios as we make different choices.

 

[Fives]

I finally saw this movie recently, and I really liked it. I thought the writing/directing/acting was great all around.

 

[Lencho01]

Saw this again. Still a fun watch.

 

[MrMaooz]

Yeah, this movie is awesome. I haven't seen it since it came out though.

 

[ThePhantasm]

I'd like to see a time travel movie sometime that doesn't rely on alternate universes, a movie in which the future is unalterable. Where the actual time travel itself is predestined, unchangeable. That would be pretty unique. Dark, but unique.

 

[Nemi]

I'd like to see a time travel movie sometime that doesn't rely on alternate universes, a movie in which the future is unalterable. Where the actual time travel itself is predestined, unchangeable. That would be pretty unique. Dark, but unique.

I think 12 Monkeys might be what you're looking for.

 

[ThePhantasm]

Oh yeah, I need to see that.

 

[Maximus One]

That's how it was on LOST as well. Trying to think of some other's but coming up blank. I've always though Donnie Darko was a brilliant time-travel movie. I should watch Looper again. I remember when it came out I loved it but yea, the pace slowed down and shifted so much once he gets to the farm that it threw me off on a first viewing

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Looper is a great flick that stands upto repeat viewings very well, got my brother to watch it recently and he loved it.

 

[addison81]

I'll add to the opinion that this film stands up on repeated viewings. Liked it a lot it theaters, but after a viewing on bluray last nite I love it. I love the way Rian Johnson uses the camera. I'm thinking of the shot of JGL falling off the ladder and some of the shots in the cafe shootout. I think I prefer this to all of 2013's scifi offerings. And I didn't think that would happen with Pacific Rim and Elysium.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

Oh yeah, I need to see that.

You absolutely should. Highest possible recommendation.

 

[redhawk23]

I also had this beef, and forgive me if this has been already discussed.

Spoiler

How Joe killing himself would actually effect the old joe..IE make him vanish.. because clearly the movie would have never took place if the timeline's were truly connected..the movie really would have never took place, so essentially we would blink back to the point of the films start -1 sec to new joe failing to kill himself. SO the fact that young joe can kill himself and make the old joe vanish, yet young joe is still in the field and dead..still creates a massive nonsensical paradox.

The film seems to suggest that one can impact the future, but the real impact of what they were suggesting should have taken the memory, the impact and was executed as dumbed down in scope.

I guess it would have clearly worked if the prevailing view on time travel, that separate and alternate realities are created by traveling back in time..but since you cannot effect your actual timeline this way, it would take some of the purpose and motivation out of the film.

In the end, it seems like the result of all the time travel was an amalgam of the "alternate timeline theory" but the film clearly had a priority that what happened in the past could effect the future characters dramatically...IE they contradict themselves and don't do it that well.

I'm not really suggesting there is an explanation to this plot whole..I think it was something that just doesnt make sense and the directors thought it would just be something most people wouldnt be smart enough to catch...in effect it works out, because I still think it was an excellent film.

Johnson has more or less confirmed it has alternate universes. During the part where Old Seth is on the run and the mob is torturing Young Seth and his nose and fingers start to disappear, we are witnessing the creation of "cascading" alternate universes. Along with multiverse theory is the idea there is a separate universes for every possibility and choice but our perception is of one timeline. It is the same for the film's "perception."

 

[Maximus One]

Old Joe basically tells Young Joe the same thing in the diner scene. When he talks about all the different eventualities. Means the same thing as "cascading" alternate universes. They would be being created and destroyed basically every moment that Old Joe is alive in the present. And yea, it all can be explained that while these universes are being created we just don't perceive them. Our human minds can only perceive one timeline that's why Old Joe's memories shift and change

 

[matrix_ghost]

Is there any word if they are going to follow this up with a sequel. Id
Love to see still that
Little
Kid turn into a villain . Im a big fan of these really
Grounded movies with realistic vfx and performances. Though i love big budget vfx like the majority of people
, i feel like movies like looper really showcase effective use of vfx . Probably why i also like chronicle so much

 

[redhawk23]

What is great is how much they did practically. In the scenes where Sid is freaking out after falling down the stairs, they lifted up all the furniture and toys on strings and wires. Same thing with just little things like all the coin tricks.

Chronicle is weird because they do the opposite. There is bascally no excuse for how bad the cg is during the the scene when they are testing out their powers with the baseball. Why use cg at all? why not film a real baseball on green screen and composite it? But then the Seattle fight at the end looked great.