Loopholes in The Marvel Deals

[babykhris]

Ok it's kind of assumed that The Avengers can't use Scarlett Witch and Quicksilver because they are attached to FOX and Spidey's at Sony, so I was thinking to myself could characters sort of connected to those properties be used by Marvel Studios.

Everyone says that Fox has all the mutants, but that's over 1000 characters. Could the Marvel Cinematic Universe have it's own mutant like team that isn't X-Men like say Alpha Flight. You don't have they are mutant's they could just references after The Avengers by Fury saying "seems Canada wants to start it's own team of Avengers." That way FOX doesn't screw them up by killing them off in X-Men Origins: Wolverine 3: This Time It's personal or something.

And for villians to Alpha Flight there's tons of mutants who could fit in the MCU not currently being used in the X-Men film franchise.

Sauron- Since there's talk about a Savage Land film. I know him name was mentioned in X-2, but is that enough?

Could Six Pack be a mutant team ran by SHIELD in this universe?

I know we can't reference Spider-Man, but is the Scarlet Spiders off-limits?

Does Klaw have to be a Fantastic Four villian? or can he be a Black Panther enemy?

Just thinking outside the box and wondering the legalities of using or acknowledging these characters.

 

[FaT_tONle]

If you talk to Feige, he will tell you the list of Fox's licensed characters is so big that Marvel will probably be too lazy to ever go through the whole thing. If the character is debatable or in that gray area, he is probably with Fox.

 

[KangConquers]

Well, the fact that Marvel has said they have Quicksilver, Scarlet Witch, and The Skrulls leads me to believe they were actually VERY specific about which characters marvel has/ doesn't have.

 

[roach]

contracts dont usually list all the characters...it may say something like all X-men and associated characters...so if Marvel was to use the Scarlet Spider they could be sued for breach of contract.

 

[GL1]

After the debacle with the Mutant X television show back in the early 2000s, I'd bet that the characters and names involved are very specific, especially with contacts between Marvel and FOX.

 

[roach]

the Mutant X thing had nothing to do with specific characters. It was about a show that lifted heavily from X-Men.

 

[Son of Coul]

contracts dont usually list all the characters...it may say something like all X-men and associated characters...so if Marvel was to use the Scarlet Spider they could be sued for breach of contract.

Actually in a Collider interview Feige said there actually is a list in a contract that has all the characters FOX owns and that it's a very, very, very long list.

 

[S.A.A.D.]

So,is there a source that one could see on the net if they want to know which characters exactly belong to Fox and/or Marvel?

 

[Son of Coul]

Not that I know of.

 

[FaT_tONle]

I've looked everywhere on the net for the exact details of the deal... found nothing.

 

[babykhris]

Is there a list of who's currently in the deals already. If not I'm thinking of creating my own list for each franchise.

 

[S. Grundy]

Fantastic Four, Daredevil and X-Men and the whole mutant library are owned by 20th Century Fox. Fox also owns the Super Skrull, but not the entire Skrull race, Marvel retained them. Namor is still at Universal as far as I know, Ghost Rider and Spider-Man are both at Columbia/Sony and The Punisher is at Lionsgate.

And I think those are pretty much it, Marvel has everything else it would seem.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbia_Pictures

 

[roach]

Namor is at Marvel....Feige has said Universal doesnt have any characters

 

[babykhris]

Namor's at Marvel Studios along with the following franchises.

The Avengers (2004)
Ant-Man (2004)
Hawkeye (2004)
Dr. Strange (2004)
Power Pack (2004)
Shang-Chi (2004)
Captain America (2004)
Black Panther (2004)
Nick Fury (2004)
Cloak & Dagger (2004)
Iron Man (2005)
The Hulk (2006)
Thor (2006)
Black Widow (2006)
Deathlok (2006)
Iron Fist (2007)
Luke Cage (2008)???
The Runaways (2008)
Namor (2010)

Now I'm not positive on the status of Blade or The Punisher, but I think 75 % of Marvel's characters are with them now.

 

[Rac]

Sauron- Since there's talk about a Savage Land film. I know him name was mentioned in X-2, but is that enough?

I don't think so because Dr. Strange was mentioned in Spider-Man 2, and X2 also had a reference to Stark Industries.

 

[Spidey-Quad]

I don't think so because Dr. Strange was mentioned in Spider-Man 2, and X2 also had a reference to Stark Industries.

Of course I knew the Dr. Strange reference from JJJameson in SM2, but I never caught the Stark one in X2. That's awesome!

 

[Hellion]

Fantastic Four, Daredevil and X-Men and the whole mutant library are owned by 20th Century Fox. Fox also owns the Super Skrull, but not the entire Skrull race, Marvel retained them. Namor is still at Universal as far as I know, Ghost Rider and Spider-Man are both at Columbia/Sony and The Punisher is at Lionsgate.

And I think those are pretty much it, Marvel has everything else it would seem.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbia_Pictures

I'm assuming the mutant library includes the entire MU, not just mutants tied to the X-Men Universe?

What happened to the other characters Lionsgate had the rights to? I thought LionsGate had other characters? I'm assuming they don't anymore with Black Widow appearing in Iron Man 2. IIRC I thought Lionsgate had Punisher, Black Widow, Iron FIst and a few other characters...