LOST - The Final Season

[Mr.Webs]

Agreed, Sawyer. After attaining all that 'power', if you could call it that, he just went over the bend.

 

[Brother Jack]

Course it's entirely possible that MIB and the smoke monster aren't exactly the same being, that Smokey was only the physical manifestation of the evil within Jacob's brother ("evil incarnate" as Dogen said). Hence why MIB's dead body ended up in the cave yet he still walked the island immortal.

 

[Aesop Rocks]

LOST Lanterns!

Spoiler

So I was pretty bored today and got to thinking "what Lantern Corps would each LOST character be?". This is what I've came up with so far:

Jacob - White Lantern
MiB - Black Lantern
Jack - Green
Sayid - Red
Hugo -Blue
Kate - Violet
Claire - Red
Locke - Green
Sawyer - Blue
Charlie - Blue
Michael - Red
Ana Lucia - Red
Libby - Indigo
Mr. Eko - Blue
Bernard - Green
Rose - Green
Desmond - Blue
Penny - Indigo
Jin - Green
Sun - Violet
Ben - Orange
Widmore - Yellow
Richard - Green

That's all I have for now.

 

[Sawyer]

LOST Lanterns!

Spoiler

So I was pretty bored today and got to thinking "what Lantern Corps would each LOST character be?". This is what I've came up with so far:

Jacob - White Lantern
MiB - Black Lantern
Jack - Green
Sayid - Red
Hugo -Blue
Kate - Violet
Claire - Red
Locke - Green
Sawyer - Blue
Charlie - Blue
Michael - Red
Ana Lucia - Red
Libby - Indigo
Mr. Eko - Blue
Bernard - Green
Rose - Green
Desmond - Blue
Penny - Indigo
Jin - Green
Sun - Violet
Ben - Orange
Widmore - Yellow
Richard - Green

That's all I have for now.

Nerd.

 

[Krozee]

LOST Lanterns!

Spoiler

So I was pretty bored today and got to thinking "what Lantern Corps would each LOST character be?". This is what I've came up with so far:

Jacob - White Lantern
MiB - Black Lantern
Jack - Green
Sayid - Red
Hugo -Blue
Kate - Violet
Claire - Red
Locke - Green
Sawyer - Blue
Charlie - Blue
Michael - Red
Ana Lucia - Red
Libby - Indigo
Mr. Eko - Blue
Bernard - Green
Rose - Green
Desmond - Blue
Penny - Indigo
Jin - Green
Sun - Violet
Ben - Orange
Widmore - Yellow
Richard - Green

That's all I have for now.

That. Is. AWESOME.

 

[Gamma Ray]

They all looked so young in season 1. I guess years of Hawaiian sun damage and natural aging changed them.

I really miss Lost.

 

[TheFuture]

Course it's entirely possible that MIB and the smoke monster aren't exactly the same being, that Smokey was only the physical manifestation of the evil within Jacob's brother ("evil incarnate" as Dogen said). Hence why MIB's dead body ended up in the cave yet he still walked the island immortal.

I hear you, I think someone (Sawyer or Ben) asked him why does he bother taking human manifestation when he can just float about much quicker. He responded by saying he likes the feel of his feet on the ground because it reminds him of when he was human. So MIB is definitely in some shape or form a part of the smoke monster.

 

[Prison Mike]

LOST Lanterns!

Spoiler

So I was pretty bored today and got to thinking "what Lantern Corps would each LOST character be?". This is what I've came up with so far:

Jacob - White Lantern
MiB - Black Lantern
Jack - Green
Sayid - Red
Hugo -Blue
Kate - Violet
Claire - Red
Locke - Green
Sawyer - Blue
Charlie - Blue
Michael - Red
Ana Lucia - Red
Libby - Indigo
Mr. Eko - Blue
Bernard - Green
Rose - Green
Desmond - Blue
Penny - Indigo
Jin - Green
Sun - Violet
Ben - Orange
Widmore - Yellow
Richard - Green

That's all I have for now.

Agreed with Sawyer. That is pretty nerdy.

 

[Aesop Rocks]

YOU'RE PRETTY NERDY!

 

[Harry_Lime02]

I assume getting smokemonsterized is a one-time thing, not a regular occurence.

 

[Harry_Lime02]

While I love this map, it's got loads of things in the wrong places. That OR the show was too damn inconsistant.

This. The writers never paid much attention to geography. By the time season 6 rolled around, the beach camp and the statue were just a short walk away (ref: The Substitute).

 

[imdaly]

http://dogcowuk.tumblr.com/post/629614414/an-anonymous-lost-writer-from-bad-robot-sums-up

So supposedly a writer gives a lengthy explanation. Even if this is fake, it makes a lot of good points.

I agree. Thanks for the link!

One problem I have with it though is that the writer is so adamant about the reasoning that certain people were not in the church at the end was because they wrote that scene after writing the first episode and that they never changed that ending, so that only Season 1 people were in it...

...I think Walt, Libby, Bernard, Desmond, Penny, and Juliette would have questions about that claim. And I doubt they knew at the very beginning that Michael would one day end up killing Ana Lucia and Libby. lol

 

[Sawyer]

This. The writers never paid much attention to geography. By the time season 6 rolled around, the beach camp and the statue were just a short walk away (ref: The Substitute).

Well this isn't exactly 24 where each episode takes place over the course of an hour. Just because a scene of them walking somewhere takes like three minutes, that doesnt mean that's how long it'll actually take.

 

[Visceral]

I wrote down some more of my thoughts in case anyone cares.

In the first season when Hurley was taking a census of all the people in the group he asked Locke what he was doing in Australia. He stated that he was looking for something. When hurley asked if he found it, Locke replied that it found him. We know that Locke went to Australia to go on a walkabout, which he described as a spiritual journey where a man makes a union with the earth and derives strength from it. When Locke was rejected this journey, fate delivered him another walkabout, the island.

Locke stated that he had seen the heart of the island in the first season and it was beautiful solidifying his story on the island as a spiritual guru who understood more about what was going on with the island than the survivors. There was even a place in the third season were Locke told Ben that the Others were hypocrites in that if they knew what the island was they wouldn't be using guns and other technology. Locke's union with the island afforded him a great miracle of being able to walk after being paralyzed.
The hatch that Locke found led to Desmond. Desmond had to continuously push a button in this hatch in order to keep at bay a large amount of energy. Later in the episode Across the Sea, we found out that this huge amount of energy like all the other spots of energy connected if not just another part of the heart of the island. Desmond's job was a difficult one in that it saved the world but at the cost of Desmond's personal life. Desmond could not leave the island to pursue what he wanted. This theme permeates through the rest of the show. One must give up what they want personally for the sake of the group.

The plane crash was created by the energy in the hatch, but later it shown to be the work of jacob's lighthouse. So which was it? The answer would be both. The energy from the heart of the island probably allows all of jacob's instruments to work. And it was the same energy moving through the hatch that pulled the plane off course so that it might crash on the island.

Before we found out that the hatch caused this we were given a sneak peek at what the island was in Rose and Bernard's episode. The faith healer that they go to see in Austraila says something that is remincent of what we have been led to believe the island might be. Isaac, the faith healer, states how he accomplishes the healing miracles he does. Isaac says that there are certain places all over the world that have ceratin energy hidden deep down. Some say that this energy is electromagentic, some say that it is geological, and others say that it is somthing else. This something else is what Locke believes it to be. Some sort of spiritual aura that helps bind us to the earth in each of our walkabouts. In a sense, Isaac is just like Jacob uses this energy to heal people. Jacob worked through fate to bring Jack and others to the island were they could be healed through the community that they created on the island.

Community and union is a very spiritual matter. Tolstoy and Dostovesky both state that love is God, love and community is always connected with God for them. Union, and the humility necessary for that union, makes that love stronger and heals us of our psychological afflictions that are created by our own ego and self interest. In the first season, we see a group of people seemingly randomly picked come together create a community and live together and not die alone. The creation of the the raft exist as a high point in their island society when they come together to elevate their standard of living. No one does it alone. This happens in the same way that Jack dies and enters into the afterlife in communion with his friends. "No one does it alone Jack" is what Christian Shepard says. Christian also says that this place helps people to let go. This is what Locke helps Boone to do in the first season right before he dies.

The heart of the island pulled these people together, through Jacob and Desmond. In the episode Across the Sea the herat of the island is refered to as the source. This could be interpreted a million different ways, The island might be the source of life. The mother does state that within the energy is life, death and rebirth. In The End, when Jack is going to the afterlife the light that seeps in to the church as he is dying looks like the blinding light from the heart of the island. This same light that is apart of every man, is what Jack becomes apart of. Goes into union with at the end of his life. From a Christian perspective is Jack went to heaven. Buddist, Jack went into the cosmic void. From and aethistic point of view jack became apart of the earth itself. No matter what Jack was redeemed and moved on through his love, community, and union to the island, and then by extension everyone.

Charlotte in the fifth season says to Daniel that this place is death. This is a valid assesment of what the island is It is a place where people come into communiion with each other until they are completely healed to the point that they transcend their physical bodies and enter the afterlife, enter the source. Its funny that that those who are in love and travel through time so as to become timeless might just enter the afterlife by default.

Through the example of the island one might hold all geological energy as having meaning. Working against the energy that creates life and meaning has its consequences. There are people that believe that psycological pain can manifest physically, and with the island that is shown to be very true. Jack trying to escape his purpose gave him an appendisidus and Ben using the island energy for his own goals gave him a tumor. The island doesn't like technology as technology might be made with the best intentions but eventually is corrupted by the ones using it. The Man in Black holds this theory on his character very well. The man in Black wanted to take the light and use it for his own. Stealing the light is an act that encompasses many things. It is first an act of playing god. Deciding who shoulkd have the light and who it should be used for. It is an act of greed and lust for power. Those who put too much faith in themselves and forget that they need everyone else. I spoke before how their are two supermen exemplified by Jack and the Man in Black. There is the superman who is humble and gives his light so that other might exist, and there is the superman of Neitzche, who takes more light than fate allows him to take others lives so that he might make his own better. Man in Black is this Superman and he became this one. Jack became the other superman, who we'll refer to as Clark Kent.

Becoming the Neitzche superman is destructive, to oneself and therefore the community. The Clark Kent superman, gives up persoanl wants such as life for the sake that others might live. jack did the Christ thing giving his light back to the source so that other might live, possibily using his light. I have always wondered that there is a limit to how many people can be alive at one time. There might be a designate amount of resources and the act dying is salvation for others. Living longer than you are meant to, unnaturally, might be destruction for others.

Doc jensen brought up a good point about the Man in Black, that his superman might be one that is trying to prove that he is himself a god and that there is no overall meaning. I though that he would be an ultimate terrorist and that he would be show tearing apart the alternate universe, so that we might know that fate is important. This was before I knew exactly what the alternate universe was. jensen's point was based on what Widmore stated to Jin. he said that if this thing ever got off the island then everyone they loved would simply cease to be.

Its funny because i believed that UnLocke would be powerful but not this powerful. If Unlocke ever got off the island. That would mean that the heart of the island and Jacob never had a plan. There would be no meaning. If there is no meaning there is no true love, no reason to copulate, and therfore no life. Everything would just stop, and rationality would fly right out the window. The world would fall into an existential nothingness. Or maybe that is a nonexistential nothing. Therefore, one should never be able to see what Unlockes power off island would be as if it existed, nothing would.
It is interesting that it is a father figure that is leading the way into the heart of the island or whatever afterlife you like. There is a lot of rage toward religion for its over patriarchicalness. It is very fitting that the reconciliationa and communion should be with a father figure. The father figure, Christian, doesn't just reprsent Jack's dad and therefore every parent the lost cast has had trouble with. Christian represents God, authority figures, and everyone. jack is humbling himself before someone he had the most trouble with and it makes sense that God would look like the ones who brought you into this world. Of course if you are an aethist then that was all really just a hallucination brought on by the heart of the island, in a very Donnie darko esque way to show Jack that his life had meaning.

Which is ultimately what lost is about, redemption, love and meaning.

 

[djkris]

Wow...man, that was...

*applause, then save text*

 

[Brother Jack]

I hear you, I think someone (Sawyer or Ben) asked him why does he bother taking human manifestation when he can just float about much quicker. He responded by saying he likes the feel of his feet on the ground because it reminds him of when he was human. So MIB is definitely in some shape or form a part of the smoke monster.

He was. The difference is the smoke monster is the evil within MIB incarnate, so it's still him but like an evil version. Like Dogen said for every man there is a scale of good and evil, Smokey was that scale tipped completely on the side of evil.

 

[chaseter]

http://www.shirtyshirtshirt.com/SmookieLanding.html

 

[Brother Jack]

http://www.shirtyshirtshirt.com/SmookieLanding.html

That's amazing. Desmond constant fav.

 

[YoungE808]

Wow...man, that was...

*applause, then save text*

Copied and pasted. The link was provided earlier.

 

[Prison Mike]

So far I am up to "Orientation" on my LOST marathon. It's so much fun to watch the show now that I know where it's all headed. The little things make sense and you can catch things you never noticed before. I'm still as big of a Jack fan as I was since the beginning.

 

[djkris]

Copied and pasted. The link was provided earlier.

Then I bow to the original poster. I know how it feels when someone else takes credit for ones idea.

 

[PWN3R]

Has Stephen King mentioned anything about LOST's ending? I hope he writes something.

 

[Sawyer]

Has Stephen King mentioned anything about LOST's ending? I hope he writes something.

I dont think he's said anything yet, but hopefully he does. He's mentioned quite a few times that he's a fan.

 

[Brother Jack]

I dont think he's said anything yet, but hopefully he does. He's mentioned quite a few times that he's a fan.

He was a huge influence on the show, especially The Stand and Darktower. But you already knew that.

 

[Maximus One]

That reminds me I need catch u on my reading of the Darktower. Trying to start Alias as well needa start the 4th disc in season 1 but damn the show is kinda slow and just aint grabbin me like I expected. I still wanna see where all the stuff with Rambaldi goes though