Lucas' notes from the 80's

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  1. Sundancer Cynicist

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    http://www.themarysue.com/george-lu..._medium=referral&utm_campaign=crowdignite.com


    Gotta admit, I like this way better.
     
  2. Llama_Shepherd Registered

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    I don't I much prefer that Yoda is a jedi, not a guru and the force is only accessible to Jedi/Jedi bloodlines.
     
  3. Human Torch Registered

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    I like Yoda being a "Great warrior" better than a Guru.But I like the idea that anybody could tune into the Force with enough effort/instruction.
     
  4. justpassinby Registered

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    Eh. On the one hand that stuff undeniably sounds cooler than the prequels, on the other hand they contradict the bloodline/warrior stuff that was included in the movies (80s), and might've been cooler there than these notes.

    I like the idea of Yoda being "above swordfighting" rather than being powerless in combat, but whatever. I forget, did Lucas start claiming the prequels to be his "original vision" around the turn of the century, or not that much actually?
     
  5. Wheels Groovy

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    I hate the idea that only people of a certain bloodline can be Jedi. I mean a child growing up in this universe, who wants to be a Jedi, can't because he doesn't have the right DNA? That sucks. I understand that comes from the old idea that only those of noble birth can be knights, but I don't like that old European caste system stuff.

    I actually do like Yoda as an active Jedi though. A little old guy who doesn't look like much, is in fact, a great warrior; that's a change that worked for me.
     
  6. Human Torch Registered

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    I think originally the reason behind Yoda not being a "fighter" is part of the question why didn't he and Ben try to take on Vader & The Emperor?

    Even in ROTS,Yoda & Palps are pretty evenly matched.Palp gets the upper hand and Yoda goes "No mas.I'm done."They didn't really have a valid reason to sit on their hands for 20 years and hope Luke &/or Leia could do a better job.

    Had it gone as originally planned,Ben wasn't strong enough to beat the Emperor and would be hard pressed to beat Vader who was "more machine than man" at that point.Yoda couldn't fight.So they had no choice but to wait for a younger student to take up the mantle.
     
  7. doobie Registered

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    I read the John Carter on Mars trilogy a couple of years ago, and there's a character in the last book who is a sword master dwarf alien who bounces off walls and flips around the place, beating everyone, but looks wizened and harmless before he fights. I am sure Lucas read that book sometime in his childhood (as he's a known fan of the series) and kept the image in his head untill CGI let him adapt it. Whether it was Yoda specifically he had in mind who knows. I prefer this interview to the story we finally got anyway. (no prequel hater here, just hated her dying in childbirth).
     
  8. Victarion Iron Captain

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    I've read that Lucas took quite a bit from John Carter. The DNA restriction opens up some interesting possibilities, if you think about it. Let's say a child grows up wanting to be a Jedi, but can't because he or she doesn't have the right midichlorian count. So that child does something else, and learns about some technology that can harvest midichlorians and encapsulate them in a capsid and envelope similar to a virus. Then, that enveloped, capsid-encoated bundle of midichlorians can be injected and make its way into a host cell. Upon entering the host cell's nuclei, the midichlorians begin replicating like a virus, and integrate themselves with the host's genome. Then, similar to the construction and release of a virus from the host cell, midichlorians are released into the host.

    Tl;dr I just made midichlorians work.
     
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    I have to say the DNA restrictions thing sounds like it rather goes against the spirit of the originals.
     
  10. I'm Old Greg do you love me?

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    Maybe Lucas changed a lot so no one who worked on the OT would be credited with preplanned ideas on his Prequel trilogy.
     
  11. Brother Jack The Penitent Man

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    It's truly mind boggling how much Lucas changed from what he was in that exchange. This is the exact opposite of what he ended up doing with the force and Yoda, two of the most egregious errors he made in the prequels. It's like his whole mindset was completely reversed. From what was logical and consistent to the spirit of what was presented in the OT to the antithesis of that.
     
  12. I'm Old Greg do you love me?

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    Well yeah, his Academy award winning exwife edited STAR WARS and his producer helped him make A New Hope and Empire... then Lucas fired them and everyone got Return Of The Jedi and the Prequels.
     
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    The idea that you need to have the right blood to use the Force was stupid, and it was always stupid.

    That's why Lucasfilm refuses to mention Midichlorians at all in the new movies. The Force is an energy field that surrounds life and all things. It is in all things and exists everywhere. You simply have to open your mind to it.

    I don't like that they rewrote what happened to Luke and Leia's mother either. That works a lot better than "she's lost the will to live" and Leia telling Luke about her "real mother" who died when she was very young.

    That's because as Lucas pointed out here, when that was written, that was supposed to be her real mother that she remembered!

    But even if you killed off Padme, you could've done a dozen other things that were better than have her die of a "broken heart."
     

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