"Make America Great Again!": The TRUMP Thread!!! - - - - Part 13

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[InCali]

I'm not denying that there's racial issues at play. But making it first in foremost a race issue is a surefire way to keep anything from being done, because there are far too many people still insisting that race isn't a problem and ignoring any issues related to it. I'm not saying that's the "right" view, but that's the only way to hope to change things, you have to be able to appeal to people like that.

This isn't first and foremost an issue of race. It's about a self serving scumbag who has somehow procured the nomination of the republican party and is using every fear mongering tactic that he can think of to incite a large group of ignorant jackasses.

 

[Marvolo]

Donald Trump, Future President of the Universe... Wait, what???

Donald Trump’s director of African-American outreach has an ominous warning for all who dared to criticize the Republican presidential nominee: Soon, they will have to bow down to “the most powerful man in the universe.”

In an upcoming “Frontline” special, Omarosa Manigault told PBS that the roots of Trump’s presidential campaign may be traced back to the 2011 White House Correspondents Dinner, when President Barack Obama cracked a few jokes at the real estate mogul’s expense. The quips came after Trump falsely accused Obama of lying about his birthplace and citizenship, thus feeding the discredited right-wing “birther” conspiracy theory.

“It just kept going and going and he just kept hammering him,” Manigault said. “And I thought, ‘Ohhhh, Barack Obama is starting something that I don’t know if he’ll be able to finish.”

She said:

“Every critic, every detractor, will have to bow down to President Trump. It’s everyone who’s ever doubted Donald, who ever disagreed, who ever challenged him. It is the ultimate revenge to become the most powerful man in the universe.”

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_57e47e34e4b0e80b1ba15296

The universe...umm slow ya roll, lady. Its a big universe. Dont get carried away. Trump isnt actually a messiah. He's a skidmark on the underpants of america which is one country on a tiny poluted planet on the arm of the milky way.

Somewhere some extra terrestrial child and its parents are probably laughing about the murderous naked apes on the backwater planet that every intelligent galactic civilization ignores. But, sure, a human is totally the most powerful man in the universe.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

Right wing fools have quite stupidly been going on for a good 30 plus years now about a slide into "tyranny" ect... So of course now it's not surprising that the real issue was simply it's not their brand of "tyranny".

Most powerful man in the universe? Jesus Christ, He-Man and Superman are waiting for their apology.

 

[Orba]

Something cheery for the weekend.

Poll: Nearly half of voters think Trump will detonate a nuke

A majority of voters say Donald Trump would allow the U.S. to default on its debt and that he would misuse the power of the presidency to punish his political opponents.

And nearly half of voters — 46 percent — say Trump would use a nuclear weapon to attack ISIS or another foreign enemy.

Those are the findings of a new poll conducted by SurveyMonkey on behalf of the Lincoln Leadership Initiative, a new group helmed by prominent Republican critics of Trump who are advocating for the GOP to dump the nominee and return to its “foundational values.”

The poll also found that a majority of voters believe that as president, Trump would create a database to track Muslims and order military strikes against the families of terrorists.

Sixty-five percent said that there would be race riots in major cities during a Trump administration, and 44 percent believe Trump would authorize internment camps for illegal immigrants.

Those views are also held by a significant number of voters who are Trump supporters.

Among those who say they will vote for Trump, 48 percent say he’ll create a database to track Muslims; 36 percent say there will be race riots; 33 percent say the government would default on its debt; and 32 percent say Trump would punish his political opponents and authorize internment camps for illegal immigrants.

Only 22 percent of Trump supporters believe he will start a nuclear war.

Ignoring the nuke thing for a second if the US defaulted on its debt it would very likely cause a global crash that would make the 07-08 banking crisis look like a door ding. The US Dollar is one of the bedrocks of the global economy, if people could no longer trust it...

Of course it would also violate the Constitution which forbids the President from questioning the legitimacy of public debt.

 

[Schlosser85]

Donald Trump, Future President of the Universe... Wait, what???



The universe...umm slow ya roll, lady. Its a big universe. Dont get carried away. Trump isnt actually a messiah. He's a skidmark on the underpants of america which is one country on a tiny poluted planet on the arm of the milky way.

Somewhere some extra terrestrial child and its parents are probably laughing about the murderous naked apes on the backwater planet that every intelligent galactic civilization ignores. But, sure, a human is totally the most powerful man in the universe.

What makes her think anyone is gonna have to "bow down" to Trump even if he is elected? He's not going to be.a king.

I won't have respect for President Trump and hopefully neither will most other people. He doesn't deserve it.

 

[samsnee]

Something cheery for the weekend.

Poll: Nearly half of voters think Trump will detonate a nuke

Ignoring the nuke thing for a second if the US defaulted on its debt it would very likely cause a global crash that would make the 07-08 banking crisis look like a door ding. The US Dollar is one of the bedrocks of the global economy, if people could no longer trust it...

Of course it would also violate the Constitution which forbids the President from questioning the legitimacy of public debt.

And yet he sill has a decent shot of winning. How people can reconcile that and still vote for him makes no sense.

 

[Kelly]

These polls cannot be compared....the poll about the nukes probably has no differentiation between people who actually vote, and people who don't.

Knowing what groups were polled tells you far more than just the percentage. The polls that have Trump further in the lead than others...who did they poll, likely voters, registered voters, more Republicans, more Democrats....people who have NEVER voted?

All of those questions need to be answered before viewing any poll as viable or not.

 

[InCali]

These polls cannot be compared....the poll about the nukes probably has no differentiation between people who actually vote, and people who don't.

Knowing what groups were polled tells you far more than just the percentage. The polls that have Trump further in the lead than others...who did they poll, likely voters, registered voters, more Republicans, more Democrats....people who have NEVER voted?

All of those questions need to be answered before viewing any poll as viable or not.

That was a poll of registered voters. You're right. You can't compare results from different populations. What you can say is that registered voters don't think very highly of him or think he's dangerous. It would be interesting to find out whether or not having someone like him running for president serves as motivation for people to vote (and for whom) or whether it just discourages them more. Results like that make me think that it's very possible that people will be more likely to turnout than otherwise. On the other hand, there are a lot of discouraged, fatalistic people out there.

 

[Charlatan]

NEW #POLLS 9/22 ■AP: CLINTON +6 ■PEW: CLINTON +7 ■ICIT: CLINTON +5 ■NBC/WSJ: C +7 ■ST.L: C +5 ■ARG: C+3 ■QUIN: C+5 ■MORN: C+4 ■ABC: C+8

 

[Kelly]

That was a poll of registered voters. You're right. You can't compare results from different populations. What you can say is that registered voters don't think very highly of him or think he's dangerous. It would be interesting to find out whether or not having someone like him running for president serves as motivation for people to vote (and for whom) or whether it just discourages them more. Results like that make me think that it's very possible that people will be more likely to turnout than otherwise. On the other hand, there are a lot of discouraged, fatalistic people out there.

I think you may be right here.....the fact that those are registered voters slightly pulls for Clinton. I'm not sure how much of a big "registration" push that Trump's campaign has done. I know Clinton's campaign is doing quite a bit of that....

 

[Orba]

University of Utah researcher: Trump University lawsuits lay groundwork for potential impeachment of Donald Trump

As the presidential race continues to heat up, a new legal analysis released today by University of Utah S.J. Quinney College of Law professor Christopher L. Peterson outlines why there is a legally sufficient case to impeach Republican nominee Donald Trump under the U.S. Constitution on charges related to fraud and racketeering for prior conduct if he is elected in November.

In an analysis titled “Trump University and Presidential Impeachment,” Peterson explores Trump’s actions as the leader of Trump University, a for-profit business founded in 2005 where students spent upwards of $30,000 to learn real estate development skills. Trump University advertised curriculum and instructors chosen by Trump, promising students a high-caliber and selective experience. In fact, according to Peterson, Trump University was an unaccredited and unlicensed series of get-rich-quick seminars provided by traveling salesmen. The school closed in 2010 and lawsuits—including one filed by the state of New York alleging Trump tricked students out of $40 million—are ongoing. (Two class action cases in California are also pending). Peterson asserts that Trump’s pending consumer protection lawsuits for fraud and racketeering will cast a shadow over his presidency if Trump wins the election and possibly be legally permissible grounds for impeachment should he be elected to the White House.

Peterson explains that under the U.S. Constitution, presidents can be impeached for bribery, treason or other high crimes and misdemeanors. He argues that fraud and racketeering—both of which are alleged as civil claims against Trump in the pending lawsuits—may qualify as impeachable high crimes or misdemeanors under the U.S. Constitution.

And another possible impeachment

Donald Trump Either Lied to the Republicans or Broke the Law

Donald Trump committed perjury. Or he looked into the faces of the Republican faithful and knowingly lied. There is no third option.

...

There are two records—one, a previously undisclosed deposition of the Republican nominee testifying under oath, and the second a transcript/video of a Republican presidential debate. In them, Trump tells contradictory versions of the same story with the clashing accounts tailored to provide what he wanted people to believe when he was speaking.

This fib matters far more than whether Trump was honest about why he abandoned his birther movement or the corollary fib that Hillary Clinton started the racist story that President Obama was born in Kenya. In the lie we are examining here, Trump either committed a felony or proved himself willing to deceive his followers whenever it suits him.

...

Assume the story he told at the debate is the lie. Even though Bush’s story reinforced what Trump was saying at rallies—he had played the “cash for outcomes” political game for years—he could not admit he had tried to do the same in Florida because he could not bring himself to say that he had lost. Instead, he looked America in the eye and lied. And then he felt compelled to stack on another boast: His people are so wonderful that they would have gotten casino gambling in Florida, regardless of Bush’s opposition—if Trump had wanted it.

Now consider the other option, that Trump committed perjury in the 2007 testimony. There, he admitted pushing for casino gambling in Florida, but said he would have gotten what he wanted if he hadn’t been tricked by Fields. The rationale for the perjurious testimony is simple—Trump wants money from a man who stopped working for him and, once again, the story lets him deny he is anything less than perfect.

No question, these two stories must be investigated if there is ever a President Trump. In their impeachment of President Bill Clinton for lying under oath about an extramarital affair, Republicans established the standard that failing to tell the truth while testifying—even in the most understandable of circumstances—rises to the level of high crimes and misdemeanors. Surely perjury for pecuniary purposes or to inflate one’s self-image cannot be ignored.

 

[Orba]

Trump's campaign paid his businesses $8.2 million

Donald Trump’s presidential campaign has paid his family'sbusinesses more than $8.2 million, according to a POLITICO analysis of campaign finance filings, which reveals an integrated business and political operation without precedent in national politics. The GOP presidential nominee’s campaign has paid his various businesses for services including rent for his campaign offices ($1.3 million), food and facilitiesfor events and meetings ($544,000) and payroll for Trump corporate staffers ($333,000) who helped with everything from his traveling security to his wife’s convention speech.

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Among the goods and services that Trump has paid his companies for are $34,500 for lodging and event staging at Trump National Doral golf course, $48,200 for room rental and catering from the Trump National Golf Club in Westchester, N.Y., and $142,000 to Trump Restaurants for rent, utilities, meals and office supplies. It paid more than $1 million to Trump Tower to rent office space for its main campaignheadquarters. Trump Ice, his bottled water company, got $1,300, while his son Eric Trump's Virginia winery was paidalmost $5,000 for catering and event space.

The bulk of the spending, almost $6 million, went to a company called TAG Air for use of Trump’s private plane.

The campaign has also paid $432,000 to Mar-a-Lago, Trump’s club in Palm Beach, Fla., for lodging, facility rental and catering.

Trump's biggest campaign money recipient is family acquaintance

The biggest recipient of Donald Trump’s presidential campaign war chest is a little-known San Antonio-based digital marketing company, with no experience in political advertising but plenty in working for Trump and his family on personal web projects.

Trump’s presidential campaign spent $11m in August on the services of Giles-Parscale, a web firm that previously worked mostly for local businesses and restaurants and made revenue of just $3.5m for the whole of 2015.

The company, run by Brad Parscale a 40-year-old, 6ft 8in former basketball player from Kansas, is by far the biggest recipient of Donald J Trump for President Inc funds, having collected more than a third of total spending in August according to Federal Election Commission figures released this week. The previous month the firm was paid $8.3m, almost half of the Trump campaign’s total monthly spend.

 

[Orba]

And finally some humour.

Eric Trump: My dad appeals to millennials because he's like Mark Zuckerberg

For son Eric Trump, Donald Trump will ultimately win over millennials against Hillary Clinton because like Facebook co-founder Mark Zuckerberg, the Republican nominee “has been an entrepreneurial guy” who became “the epitome of the American dream.”

“He’s gone from nothing into a man who’s just — “ Trump said Friday on Fox News’ “Outnumbered,” as Democratic strategist Julie Roginsky cut him off: “Nothing? He got a million bucks? Come on, Eric…”

Trump defended his statement, saying his father has “built an unbelievable empire” and has “epitomized what America’s all about: Opportunity and working hard and being able to achieve your dreams and what you want to succeed, right?”

“It’s no different than a Zuckerberg, right?” he continued. “Who went out with a great idea like a Facebook and developed this idea and built it and grew it and grew it and grew it. That is achieving something, right? And I think it’s very different than a person who has been a career politician.”

 

[Legendver2]

University of Utah researcher: Trump University lawsuits lay groundwork for potential impeachment of Donald Trump

And another possible impeachment

Donald Trump Either Lied to the Republicans or Broke the Law

Wouldn't this just put Pence in the Oval Office?

 

[Schlosser85]

And finally some humour.

Eric Trump: My dad appeals to millennials because he's like Mark Zuckerberg

A) I don't think getting a million dollar loan from Daddy counts as "starting from nothing".

B) Trump is not like Mark Zuckerberg. He didn't create **** of his own. He inherited business and wealth from his dad and has been badly managing it ever since.

 

[DJ_KiDDvIcIOUs]

Can we change the title of this thread to "Make Racism/Bigotry Great Again!". That seems to be the more accurate descriptor.

 

[Iceman]

Ted Cruz says he'll vote for Trump.

 

[Sawyer]

https://***********/Zigmanfreud/status/779387962802831361?lang=en

John Ziegler
‏@Zigmanfreud
Ted Cruz was with Trump when he could've beaten him & against him when he couldn't. Then he non-endorsed with max damage, & caved for 0 gain

A very fair and accurate portrayal of Cruz's complete political incompetence.

 

[Orba]

Can we change the title of this thread to "Make Racism/Bigotry Great Again!". That seems to be the more accurate descriptor.

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/trump-campaign-announces-catholic-advisory-group

Yesterday Trump announced his "Catholic Advisory Group", top of the list

Rick Santorum

Rick Santorum Suggests Liberal And Gay Catholics Can't Be Real Catholics

Rick Santorum's 5 Worst Smears: Attacking Gay Rights, Working Women & Church-State Separation

More of "the best people".

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

Yahoo! News - U.S. intel officials probe ties between Trump adviser and Kremlin

U.S. intelligence officials are seeking to determine whether an American businessman identified by Donald Trump as one of his foreign policy advisers has opened up private communications with senior Russian officials — including talks about the possible lifting of economic sanctions if the Republican nominee becomes president, according to multiple sources who have been briefed on the issue.

The activities of Trump adviser Carter Page, who has extensive business interests in Russia, have been discussed with senior members of Congress during recent briefings about suspected efforts by Moscow to influence the presidential election, the sources said. After one of those briefings, Senate minority leader Harry Reid wrote FBI Director James Comey, citing reports of meetings between a Trump adviser (a reference to Page) and “high ranking sanctioned individuals” in Moscow over the summer as evidence of “significant and disturbing ties” between the Trump campaign and the Kremlin that needed to be investigated by the bureau.

Some of those briefed were “taken aback” when they learned about Page’s contacts in Moscow, viewing them as a possible back channel to the Russians that could undercut U.S. foreign policy, said a congressional source familiar with the briefings but who asked for anonymity due to the sensitivity of the subject. The source added that U.S. officials in the briefings indicated that intelligence reports about the adviser’s talks with senior Russian officials close to President Vladimir Putin were being “actively monitored and investigated.”

A senior U.S. law enforcement official did not dispute that characterization when asked for comment by Yahoo News. “It’s on our radar screen,” said the official about Page’s contacts with Russian officials. “It’s being looked at.”

https://www.yahoo.com/news/u-s-inte...ween-trump-adviser-and-kremlin-175046002.html

 

[Schlosser85]

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/trump-campaign-announces-catholic-advisory-group

Yesterday Trump announced his "Catholic Advisory Group", top of the list

Rick Santorum

Rick Santorum Suggests Liberal And Gay Catholics Can't Be Real Catholics

Rick Santorum's 5 Worst Smears: Attacking Gay Rights, Working Women & Church-State Separation

More of "the best people".

I'd suggest Rick Santorum is not a real Catholic.

 

[Orba]

A) I don't think getting a million dollar loan from Daddy counts as "starting from nothing".

Whenever they come with that stuff it always makes me things of this.

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[Sawyer]

I just love that Cruz and Paul Ryan seem to be in a race for who could be the most spineless.