"Make America Great Again!": The TRUMP Thread!!! - - - - - - - - - - Part 19

[Sithborg]

I look forward to seeing if any Republican will stand up to Trump doing some obvious grifting.

 

[Dr Lee]

The Republican party will do **** all about Trump... and anyone that breaks ranks will be crushed to keep the illusion of control intact.

 

[Sithborg]

The Republican party will do **** all about Trump... and anyone that breaks ranks will be crushed to keep the illusion of control intact.

It was adorable watching Ryan attempt to grow a spine during the election, though.

 

[childeroland]

For some in middle class, Trump plan would mean tax increase

Excerpt:

WASHINGTON (AP) — President-elect Donald Trump's proposals would modestly cut income taxes for most middle-class Americans. But for nearly 8 million families — including a majority of single-parent households — the opposite would occur: They'd pay more.

Most married couples with three or more children would also pay higher taxes, an analysis by the nonpartisan Tax Policy Center found. And while middle-class families as a whole would receive tax cuts of about 2 percent, they'd be dwarfed by the windfalls averaging 13.5 percent for America's richest 1 percent.

Trump's campaign rhetoric had promoted the benefits of his proposals for middle-income Americans.

"The largest tax reductions are for the middle class," said Trump's "Contract With the American Voter," released last month.

The tax hikes that would hit single parents and large families would result from Trump's plan to eliminate the personal exemption and the head-of-household filing status. These features of the tax code have enabled many Americans to reduce their taxable income.

His other proposed tax changes would benefit middle- and lower-income Americans. But they wouldn't be enough to offset those modifications.

"If you're a low- or moderate-income single parent, you're going to get hurt," said Bob Williams, a fellow at the Tax Policy Center.

Unlike Trump's polarizing proposals on immigration and trade, his tax plan is in line with traditional Republican policy. His steep tax cuts in many ways resemble those carried out by Presidents Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush, and the Republican-run Congress is expected to welcome them.

During the campaign, Trump said his tax cuts — for individuals and companies — would energize the economy by boosting business investment in factories and equipment, while leaving consumers with more cash to spend. His proposals, he contended, would help create 25 million jobs over the next decade.

But Lily Batchelder, a visiting fellow at the Tax Policy Center and former deputy director of President Barack Obama's National Economic Council, estimates that roughly 7.9 million families with children would pay higher taxes under his proposals. About 5.8 million are led by single parents. An additional 2.1 million are married couples.

Other analysts, including economists at the conservative Tax Foundation and right-of-center American Enterprise Institute, have agreed with Batchelder's conclusions.

 

[samsnee]

Color me shocked.

 

[Matt Mortem]

I'm flabbergasted that Russia's meddling isn't a huge deal for both parties. Russia clearly influenced the election and yet here we are with no one giving a ****. Democrats are spineless. If there was even a rumor of a Democrat winning because of foreign interference the GOP would burn the entire government to the ground.

 

[Powerman34]

I'm flabbergasted that Russia's meddling isn't a huge deal for both parties. Russia clearly influenced the election and yet here we are with no one giving a ****. Democrats are spineless. If there was even a rumor of a Democrat winning because of foreign interference the GOP would burn the entire government to the ground.

Yeah those Republicans just love going out in the streets and destroying stuff just like Occupy Walstreet, Black Lives Matter, oh wait those are leftists!!

 

[DJ_KiDDvIcIOUs]

Yeah those Republicans just love going out in the streets and destroying stuff just like Occupy Walstreet, Black Lives Matter, oh wait those are leftists!!

You're going to sit here and act like Trump wasn't already riling up his base with talks of the "rigged election" in the lead up to Nov 8th? Or all the folks on social media that specifically said they were going to f*** s*** up if Trump didn't win?

But he "won" so everybody needs to just calm down and give him a chance right?

 

[Powerman34]

You're going to sit here and act like Trump wasn't already riling up his base with talks of the "rigged election" in the lead up to Nov 8th? Or all the folks on social media that specifically said they were going to f*** s*** up if Trump didn't win?

But he "won" so everybody needs to just calm down and give him a chance right?

Sorry bro but we have the Veritas undercover video proving that the democrats, George Soros and others PAID for these "uprisings " at his rallies. And now that Trump did win fair and square, you all who preach about tolerance and "they go
Low,we go high" are having a very hard time practicing what you preach.

 

[Charlatan]

Sorry bro but we have the Veritas undercover video proving that the democrats, George Soros and others PAID for these "uprisings " at his rallies. And now that Trump did win fair and square, you all who preach about tolerance and "they go
Low,we go high" are having a very hard time practicing what you preach.

Veritas? You mean the heavily edited propaganda videos produced by the criminal James O'Keefe? hah.

 

[DeadPresident]

Sorry bro but we have the Veritas undercover video proving that the democrats, George Soros and others PAID for these "uprisings " at his rallies. And now that Trump did win fair and square, you all who preach about tolerance and "they go
Low,we go high" are having a very hard time practicing what you preach.

Although your logic is mostly right it would be disingenuous to suggest Trump's conduct was comparable to Clinton's during their campaigns. While there may have been democrat leaning individuals actively encouraging specific groups to stir the **** Clinton wasn't explicitly sounding out radical segments of the US population in order to mobilize votes. And in hindsight it's seeming that Trump is talking right and walking more left since half the promises he made to the alt-right types he seems to be reneging on already.

 

[summerteeth]

You're going to sit here and act like Trump wasn't already riling up his base with talks of the "rigged election" in the lead up to Nov 8th? Or all the folks on social media that specifically said they were going to f*** s*** up if Trump didn't win?

But he "won" so everybody needs to just calm down and give him a chance right?

It's to be seen if any of that would have come to fruition. The left tends to be much more disruptive as noted with Occupy or even recent protests which are mostly nonviolent but block things like highways or student walk areas. The right typically does their little protests without being too disruptive and then go home, and most importantly they show up to the polls and vote. That's how the Tea Party was successful. The left is too busy satisfying their emotions and to make themselves feel better about themselves through these big/large displays that don't really go anywhere. Protesting the results of a democratic election still leaves a bad taste, while they have the right to do it, leaves a rather bad taste in my mouth.

 

[Kyle]

Lol. There are those conspiracy theories again. Like people wouldn't protest the tyrant Trump who gave speeches akin to neo nazis, kicking hate crimes into high gear, but I guess those hate crime reports must be Lügenpresse right? Everyone against Trump "must be" a Hillary supporter or democrat right, or else god forbid the more complicated answers (those against the guy being independents and anarchists as well, on moral grounds) would throw Trump supporters' lives out of whack right? Gotta love those conspiracy theories.

And waiting for a Trump supporter above to call me a Hillary supporter, who I've been vocal about being against since I was in high school. Or saying I'm a democrat, when fact of the matter is that dem vs repub fight is ridiculous to me as an independent, always has been since it impedes work. Plus I read news around the world rather than sticking to a pro left or pro right source. But, you know, you'll just say I'm lying cause that's the next easy answer to sleep better at night, right? Just knocking all the replies I know I'll get back and ending the crazy round circle now because it's always the same response.

People hate Trump on moral grounds, 'nuff said. Protestors were out there for moral grounds as well. There's no vast conspiracy. Just a lot of us? Hate bullying, hate bigotry and fight back when we see it. Or were the protests in the 60s/70s under contract too? Nothing Hillary or democratic has to be about being against a guy that ran off preying on and fueling people's xenophobic (and other) fears then filled his cabinet with bigots, that's a humanitarian ground. He used fear tactics placing blame onto minorities to his advantage. And as an independent the one thing, it can really be narrowed down to being against bullies, that I've always cared about the most.

 

[DJ_KiDDvIcIOUs]

Sorry bro but we have the Veritas undercover video proving that the democrats, George Soros and others PAID for these "uprisings " at his rallies. And now that Trump did win fair and square, you all who preach about tolerance and "they go
Low,we go high" are having a very hard time practicing what you preach.

So it was all a Left-Wing conspiracy that these minor GOP celebs posted things on social media saying they were "getting their guns" and other such nonsense right up until it was clear Hillary didn't win huh? That is what I was referring to but since you brought up his rallies it was all a big conspiracy when his supporters assaulted protesters or how the last few weeks of the election reporters had to be escorted away under police protection?

I'm also familiar with the so-called evidence claiming to pay protesters to disrupt rallies or hold their won rallies in DC as of late. Every single one is a Craigslist ad and it's not like anyone can just make a burner email address and then post anything they want on that site (I withheld the sarcasm smiley and opted to write this so that you know for a fact I'm being completely sarcastic because that's exactly how those ads were created).

It's to be seen if any of that would have come to fruition. The left tends to be much more disruptive as noted with Occupy or even recent protests which are mostly nonviolent but block things like highways or student walk areas. The right typically does their little protests without being too disruptive and then go home, and most importantly they show up to the polls and vote. That's how the Tea Party was successful. The left is too busy satisfying their emotions and to make themselves feel better about themselves through these big/large displays that don't really go anywhere. Protesting the results of a democratic election still leaves a bad taste, while they have the right to do it, leaves a rather bad taste in my mouth.

I could link you to all types of images from when Obama won in 2008 that say very horrible things about African Americans and I'm sure you are familiar with the GOP doing literally nothing but block every move Obama tried to make in the last 6 years so we'll skip that link as well. If you honestly think that things would've been peaceful with the rhetoric Trump was spouting at the end I've got a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.

You seem to think that "protesting" means they should be cordoned off to a secluded area so they can yell without anyone being bothered. Sadly, that is not how this works.

Martin Luther Kings Jr. once said, "A riot is the language of the unheard". This statement is appropriate considering Hillary won the popular vote by 2 million+ votes and counting.

 

[Hotwire]

 

[Octoberist]

Yeah she's a loon. She also is an advocate for chid labor? That's never going to go anywhere obviously, but it gives you even more on her headspace, and how disconnected she is.

She says that child labor is a good thing, but..would she push her kids to work? She's a classic politician.

 

[Kelly]

Yep he should have gone with Michelle Rhee....

 

[SV Fan]

I never knew she actually donated to Trump, although I know she has given tens if not hundreds of millions to Republican candidates as well as republican/evangelical conservatives causes

 

[Thundercrack85]

Well, look on the bright side. The Republicans want to get rid of the Department of Education, so she might be out of a job soon.

 

[childeroland]

Potential Conflicts Around the Globe for Trump, the Businessman President

Excerpt:

MANILA — On Thanksgiving Day, a Philippine developer named Jose E. B. Antonio hosted a company anniversary bash at one of Manila’s poshest hotels. He had much to be thankful for.

In October, he had quietly been named a special envoy to the United States by the Philippine president, Rodrigo Duterte. Mr. Antonio was nearly finished building a $150 million tower in Manila’s financial district — a 57-story symbol of affluence and capitalism, which bluntly promotes itself with the slogan “Live Above the Rest.” And now his partner on the project, Donald J. Trump, had just been elected president of the United States.

After the election, Mr. Antonio flew to New York for a private meeting at Trump Tower with the president-elect’s children, who have been involved in the Manila project from the beginning, as have Mr. Antonio’s children. The Trumps and Antonios have other ventures in the works, including Trump-branded resorts in the Philippines, Mr. Antonio’s son Robbie Antonio said.

“We will continue to give you products that you can enjoy and be proud of,” the elder Mr. Antonio, one of the richest men in the Philippines, told the 500 friends, employees and customers gathered for his star-studded celebration in Manila.

Mr. Antonio’s combination of jobs — he is a business partner with Mr. Trump, while also representing the Philippines in its relationship with the United States and the president-elect — is hardly inconsequential, given some of the weighty issues on the diplomatic table.

Among them, Mr. Duterte has urged “a separation” from the United States and has called for American troops to exit the country in two years’ time. His antidrug crusade has resulted in the summary killings of thousands of suspected criminals without trial, prompting criticism from the Obama administration.

Situations like these are already leading some former government officials from both parties to ask if America’s reaction to events around the world could potentially be shaded, if only slightly, by the Trump family’s financial ties with foreign players. They worry, too, that in some countries those connections could compromise American efforts to criticize the corrupt intermingling of state power with vast business enterprises controlled by the political elite.

 

[summerteeth]

Can we have political discourse without memes? Pretty please with a cherry on top. I think we are better than that. Have you even fact checked this before posting? For instance, I have never heard or read that she said that teachers are overpaid.

 

[Hotwire]

Can we have political discourse without memes? Pretty please with a cherry on top. I think we are better than that. Have you even fact checked this before posting? For instance, I have never heard or read that she said that teachers are overpaid.

In all fairness then...
http://www.snopes.com/betsy-devos-education-secretary/

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

It's interesting to note that for a very long time now many voters and pundits talked about getting a "business person" to be the POTUS, thinking they would efficiently run the government like a business.

They said this as though it had never happened ever and yet there have been many a wealthy business person elected to high office in other countries the past few decades.

It would be enlightening I think to look at the track record of those individuals while in power and the effects they had on their own countries. I myself have not looked into it, but then again, I didn't want the billionaire that never released his taxes to the public to be president in the first place. Did anyone that voted for Trump look at any other country where an incredibly wealthy non-politician ran and won to look at what we may be in store for?

 

[chaseter]

In all fairness then...
http://www.snopes.com/betsy-devos-education-secretary/

Snopes showing their bias:

Believes that public school teachers are overpaid?

Undetermined. We haven't unearthed any public statements by her to that effect so far, though it is a commonly held position within the conservative circles DeVos travels in.

And gasp! She donates to Christian schools! The horror.

I have no idea who the hell she is but the ctrl+left are out in full force on everything regarding Trump. Feels like bizarro 2008.

 

[Kyle]

/\ for some of us our fighting and being against Trump as well as what his cabinet has come to represent is survival of sorts out of personally being impacted by it. As a minority and immigrant, it brings the scariest elements of 'Man of Steel' and 'BvS' (people being against and fearful of "aliens") in regards to people's xenophobic fears home for me. It woke me up in one of the worst ways possible. It's not something someone can just get over. For many of us, it does feel very personal. And to be honest, unsure if this wound Trump has inflicted in me and others can ever truly be healed. But, one thing we can do is fight.

The 2008 elections didn't make people fear for their lives, people get attacked or commit suicide not because of right or left but feeling like the country you've called home has turned against you in a way that I can only describe as feeling like you've entered the Twilight Zone.