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Make your own Batman Trilogy

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I'm not sure if there was a thread like this before but I thought it would be an interesting topic. If you had your shot at directing a batman trilogy, what villains would you use, what would it be about, what would the title be, etc? Give us details! :brucebat:

My trilogy would be
1. Batman vs The Joker
2. Batman vs Two-Face
3. Batman vs Scarecrow

And of course, I would have villains such as The Penguin, The Riddler, Falcone, Poison Ivy, etc being secondary villains in each movie. As for what the movies would be about, I'll write it up later
 
I'd take a story from the comics, like Hush or Long Halloween, and make a trilogy from that, filming it all at once LOTR style, although I'd do it in two movies, but you said trilogy so that's what I'd do, also I'll eventually finish this run-on sentence soon.
 
I wrote out detailed outlines, an origin script, and parts of two more a few years ago.

1. Origin story with no supervillains, but an emphasis on Batman VS the criminal element and organized crime. Big role for James Gordon and Harvey Dent. Carmine Falcone and corrupt politicians/cops as the villains. The love interest would be Selina Kyle.

2. The introduction of The Joker and the mob war against the freaks. The creation of The Catwoman. The creation of Two-Face by the end. Leslie Thompkins would be in this movie, and part of the plot would involve the creation of the Wayne Foundation. Socialite/philantropist Silver St. Cloud would enter the picture to compete with Selina for Bruce's affections.

3. The Joker, a revenge-driven Two-Face, and a number of other "Arkham" bound freaks in a sort of "Arkham unleashed" movie. Catwoman would have a prominent role. Oswald Cobblepot would also figure into the plot. Maybe Robin, if it could be done without being too "rushed".
 
I too made plans and scripts for a trilogy, much along the same lines as above, but I had Joker introduced right at the end.

Guardian, fancy digging out your old treatments/scripts/ideas and comparing?
 
Batman vs The Joker
I wouldn't make this movie an origin movie but I would show scenes from his training in Korea, France, and India and incorporate a flashback from each country into three acts. What he's doing in each act would reflect what he's learned on his travels. The love interest would be Selina Kyle and Bruce would meet her as a flight attendant on his way back to Gotham. The Joker will also get an origin but he'll start out as Red Hood first... only to become the Joker in the 2nd act. No permawhite chemical joker in my movie though... I'll follow the origin of him getting his lips cut with batarangs and putting on make-up to cover it (I'm not a fan of bleached joker). Harvey Dent will already be D.A and Gordon will be the newcomer to Gotham. Catwoman is introduced during the climax of the film.

Batman vs Two Face
The Joker and his clowns have destroyed Gotham City but with the Joker now in Arkham, rebuilding the city begins. This movie will borrow from The Long Halloween dealing with the mafia. Falcone, Maroni, and Penguin will be in this but no Holiday killer or anything. Catwoman will team-up with Batman for personal reasons of course and eventually they'll find out each others secrets. Joker is introduced to a psychologist, Jonathan Crane... eventually leading to a partnership then Crane breaks him out. Harvey is scarred in act two, and goes on a killing rampage in act three causing him to go after the Joker after finding out he's been freed.

Batman vs Scarecrow
Gotham City is rebuilt, Two-Face is in Arkham, and Joker and the Scarecrow are nowhere to be found. The only Mob boss that remains is The Penguin and he has the whole city to himself... until the Riddler shows up for some competition. Later on we find out that The Riddler is nothing but a puppet hired by Joker and Scarecrow and he's killed off once he's done his job. The whole movie will be about the Scarecrow using his fear toxin on Gotham City and Batman coming to the realization that he can't protect Gotham on his own. And of course, in the final act there'll be that classic scene with Scarecrow using his toxin on Joker but not being effective. The big reveal will be when all the little hitmen/mobsters who worked for previous mob bosses are revealed to be loyal follower of The Joker. We'll find out that the Joker's been pulling all the strings... having his former clowns working in every mafia in town.

I'll probably write up a script for the first film sometime soon.
 
Guardian, fancy digging out your old treatments/scripts/ideas and comparing?

My computer crashed and I lost everything. I remember most of it. You go first, I'll compare with what you came up with.
 
Ok, let me dig out my stuff as well! I basically had 'The Batman' 'The Batman: Dark Knight' and finally 'The Batman: A New Dawn' and I was utilizing this cast listing:

Batman / Bruce Wayne – Christian Bale
Alfred Pennyworth – Michael Caine
Commissioner Gordon – Ray Liotta
Harvey Dent / Two-Face – Liev Schrieber
The Joker – Lachey Hulme
Edward Nygma / The Riddler – Robin Williams
Selina Kyle / Catwoman – Rosario Dawson
Carmine Falcone – Bob Hoskins
Sal Maroni – James Gandolfini
Sarah Essen – Rene Russo
Barbara Gordon – Keri Lynn Pratt
Dr. Harleen Quinzel – Joely Richardson

First film:

The Batman -
- Bruce, Thomas and Martha go to watch Zorro
- They leave, heading into alley ‘Park Row’
- Thomas and Martha Wayne killed by unknown assailant
- At family wake he runs away, finding the Batcave and being attacked by bats
- Taken in and cared for by family butler, Alfred
- Goes to several private schools, excelling at all subjects
- Leaves Gotham at age 12
- Begins vigilante training
- Meets Lucius Fox in Paris
- Trained by Henri Ducard into a brilliant detective also in Paris
- Trained in several disciplines, languages and skills by various masters
- Arrives back in Gotham aged 24 and makes plans for vigilante career
- Jim Gordon also arrives in Gotham from Chicago and sees street justice by Flass
- He checks into a hotel to get an alibi and applies a fake scar
- He enters red light district and is propositioned by Holly
- Her pimp pulls her away, realizing he is not the kind, they fight
- Selina Kyle joins in
- He is arrested but escapes, getting shot in the process
- He arrives back home, and sees a bat fly through his window, he realizes his true calling
- Sees Gotham controlled by crime lords Maroni and Falcone
- He begins working at Wayne Enterprises, finding equipment for Batman
- Falcone owns Commissioner Loeb
- Harvey Dent elected as Gotham D.A but has mental problems
- Gordon and Dent fight against Falcone and Maroni
- Falcone orders Gordon beaten for interference
- Gordon beats Flass, the man responsible for beating
- Batman has first night, disarming three teen muggers
- High profile burglaries by The Riddler
- Batman fights general crime and his legend grows
- Comes up against Catwoman, they fight after she burgles someone
- Batman attacks Falcone’s dinner party, informing all guests that they are targets
- Batman, Dent and Gordon form crime fighting trinity
- The Riddler steals priceless artifacts
- Batman captures Catwoman but lets her go
- The Riddler’s hide out is in Axis chemical factory
- Group forces comedian to dress as Red Hood and help them rob playing card factory, he tries to back out when his wife dies but they make him
- Batman interrupts the robbery
- Comedian jumps into vat of acid to escape
- The Riddler sees everything happen
- He taunts Batman, saying he killed a man
- Batman captures The Riddler
- The Riddler is sent to Arkham where he admits his obsessions
- Joker appears opposite playing card factory, laughing
- Batman captures Falcone and Maroni during a meeting between the two
- Another confrontation with Catwoman where he reveals her identity
- Batman meets Gordon who shows him the new Batsignal
- Final shot of Gordon showing Batman the Joker card
 
Second film:

The Batman: Dark Knight -
- Maroni and Falcone are in jail
- Batman fights more general crime
- We see Gordon with his wife and Barbara
- Falcone turns witness, causing Loeb to lose his job
- Gordon starts affair with Essen
- Dent carries on fighting for a conviction for Falcone
- Gordon made Commissioner
- Batman and Catwoman fight again
- Joker kills a kindergarten class in front of Batman but escapes
- Dent starts cracking up under pressure from Falcone about conviction
- Batman realizes the true extent of The Joker
- Joker kills several prominent Gotham businessmen
- Gordon’s affair heats up
- The Joker captures and beats Catwoman in front of Batman, again escaping
- Batman tries to get Catwoman to give up crime
- Batman starts questioning his own career
- Joker kidnaps Barbara and Commissioner Gordon, crippling Barbara and torturing the Commissioner with pictures of his crippled daughter
- Batman and Catwoman kiss, building sexual tension
- Batman saves Commissioner Gordon and captures The Joker after Gordon insists he does it by the book
- Dent really starts cracking up, showing dual personality
- Batman offers to show identity to Catwoman if she gives up crime, she refuses
- Joker is sent to Arkham, escorted by Sarah Essen but kills her on the way
- Falcone escapes trial by threatening to release Dent’s psychological problems
- At Arkham, The Joker is welcomed by Dr. Quinzel
- Maroni stands trial
- Batman visits Catwoman as trial begins, telling her they can’t be together
- Batman watches the trial in secret, but sees that Maroni has been given the acid
- He jumps into the court room to save Dent but only manages to push Dent towards Maroni
- Maroni throws the acid into Dent’s face, scarring him horrifically
- Dent in hospital is taken to hospital, passed out, covered in bandages
- Doctor explains to Gordon that Dent has been scarred beyond recognition and that he appears to have gone insane
- They go to his room, to find it empty
- Final shot of Dent hiding in sewer, half of his face hidden in darkness, talking to himself and blaming Batman for his disfigurement
 
Third Film:

The Batman: A New Dawn -
- Gordon confesses his affair with Essen to Batman
- They discuss Harvey Dent escaping
- Barbara Gordon is still alive, barely
- Two-Face starts career by killing Catwoman who he knows is an associate of Batman, blaming Batman for not stopping Maroni
- Batman arrives to find Catwoman dead
- Two-Face fights Batman, beating him senseless
- Batman decides to hang up cape and cowl reasoning that people he loves keep getting hurt
- Two-Face’s fragile mental state becomes apparent when he refuses to kill someone because his coin came up good side
- Dr. Quinzel begins her treatment of The Joker
- Two-Face commits more crimes
- Batman refuses to turn up
- Citywide panic as they realize The Batman has gone
- Batman prompted back into action as Two-Face robs 2nd National Bank and kills innocent people on live TV coverage
- He arrives at the bank, ignoring Gordon and racing straight inside
- He fights Two-Face, brutally beating him
- Batman finally relents and leaves Two-Face to the police
- Two-Face is sent to Arkham
- Batman and Gordon meet, discussing the end to all villains
- Interrupted by phone call to Gordon from The Joker, who has taken control of Arkham, threatening to kill guards unless Batman comes to them
- Batman arrives at Arkham
- He goes inside and has to battle The Riddler, Two-Face and Zsaz straight away, barely defeating them
- Joker arrives and beckons him further and further into the asylum
- He explains that Batman should be inside as he’s just as insane as them
- Joker makes sick jokes about Barbara
- Just as Batman is about to hit Joker Quinzel smashes him on the back of the head
- He re-awakens, looked over by The Joker
- Quinzel is revealed as the one who hit him, having fallen for The Joker
- Three villains tell him that he has one hour to find the guards, doctors and nurses taken hostage or he’ll kill them all
- The Joker releases Two-Face to find and kill him
- Batman beats Two-Face again
- Joker finds him on the roof and they come face to face
- They have their final battle
- He beats The Joker, breaking his spine
- Joker tells his final joke and they share a final laugh
- He descends back into Arkham to be confronted by The Riddler, Zsaz, Two-Face and Quinzel
- They all agree that Two-Face has to flip the coin to decide if he goes free
- Two-Face says Batman wins, and he can go
- Shot reveals that the coin was scarred side up and that there may be some hope for Harvey Dent
- Final shot of The Batman leaving Arkham Asylum, and looking up to see the BatSignal
 
Sorry for the big posts but I thought it best to post my entire story-arcs for each film. Obviously there was a lot more filler material then that, this is a basic outline, I was planning on scripting each film from those, then going back and adding filler scenes in the second drafts.

I posted these a while back in the fan-film sections I think, got a mixed response, most of it revolved around The Joker, mainly whether we should know him before the accident or not. I also realize reading back that they're a horrific mess and tangle, and i'm trying to cram so much into three films. I might re-develop this as a double trilogy instead of 3 films.
 
I didn't do any casting. I wrote the origin script, BATMAN: GENESIS.

It began with an origin, with Bruce finding the cave (not falling into it, but making a choice to go inside), progressed to an introduction to the Wayne family and Alfred, the night of the murder, Bruce's vow, the training, etc, and then, after a series of montages and short scenes, Bruce went overseas to train with Ducard and David Cain. Seeking a means to fight evil, he went on a quasi Black Ops mission with them before striking out on his own after he found their actions unsavory, and finding a new master in Tsunemoto. He returned to Gotham and became Batman in a similar way to what happened in BATMAN BEGINS, likely because David Goyer and I both read BATMAN #0 when it came out. Only, he made most of his stuff, he didn't just find it. Or if he did find it, he modified it appropriately. I.E, The Batmobile was a prototype police pursuit vehicle that he disguised with a batface and fins and so forth.

Basically, the story set up the crime/corruption scenario in Gotham. Bruce returned to Wayne Enterprises and began to make changes in the running of the business. Gordon was a single man whose wife had left him because she couldn't take his world, and he struck up a friendship/romance with Sarah Essen. Harvey Dent figured in the story in his usual capacity. Gordon's daughter, Barbara, formed the "moral uncertainty" part of the story. Batman confronted several powerful mobsters in one scene and ended up fighting the cops, actually fighting them, not running from them, when Falcone colluded with Commissioner Loeb to take him out after Batman begin to disrupt his business. Alfred, unable to reconcile what Bruce was doing with his life, quit after Bruce refused to see the light. Dent, Gordon and Batman formed an alliance and began to make headway against the mob. Bruce tried to have a friendship/relationship with Selina Kyle throughout, but ending up hurting her badly when he chose his mission over her immediate needs. In a story move I now regret, because it ended up getting compared to BATMAN BEGINS, David Cain was hired as an assassin to kill James Gordon, kidnapped Gordon's daughter Barbara, and Batman had to confront his former mentor. After that, Batman basically gave Carmine Falcone a beat down and delivered an ultimatum, claiming Gotham as his own. The movie ended with Batman having arrived, Gotham not knowing what to make of him, and Gordon glad to have him there, but realizing their relationship would be an uneasy one.
 
The second story, BATMAN: INSANITY, focused on Bruce Wayne's efforts to better Gotham and to reconcile his situation, to carve out a niche for Batman and Bruce Wayne's charitable acts after beginning his work on both fronts. To that end, the creation of The Wayne Foundation was announced, and Leslie Thompkins and her part in the mythology was introduced. Silver St. Cloud also showed up with councilman Rupert Thorne. Bruce did more with Wayne Enterprises, and his friendship with Fox deepened.

The backstory featured Falcone and the mob element's last ditch attempts to take Batman down via villifying him in the public eye, citing themes of escalating violence and the emergence of more freaks and copycats (Catwoman) etc. Gordon and his men were forced to turn against Batman and hunt him, and Batman ended up almost dying at the hands of the police. He returned to Wayne Manor, half dead, to find that Alfred had returned. Selina made the transition to Catwoman based no the things going on around her, and began to stir the pot a bit. She tried to help Batman throughout, and they ended up saving each other at some point. There was also a sort of Silver/Selina/Bruce love triangle thing going on, with Rupert Thorne trying to assassinate Wayne's character in the public eye. Leslie believed it at first, and ended up finding out that Bruce was Batman.

The Joker just showed up, and was a force throughout the script, causing all kinds of problems for Batman, the mob and the cops as well as Gotham itself, but was never actually seen until the middle of the story. He was a sort of Jack The Ripper-like figure until then, and served to feed Bruce's growing obsession with protecting Gotham. He had no origin, and I conceived him as a man who painted his face and MADE himself. But he was also a bit more dapper than the DARK KNIGHT version appears to be. I don't remember much of the storyline, but I know that The Joker's acts weren't random, they simply appeared to be. He had some kind of political agenda, and ended up killing a number of police officials and mobsters alike. He was really only interested in getting the spotlight off other "powerful elements" in Gotham and onto himself for his Grand Act. The Joker ending up pretending like he was going to poison the Gotham Reservoir (cops went there in droves) and then striking at a charity performance of I Pagliacci (a nod to the Silver Age). Batman stopped him and pursued him to the rooftops...and I can't remember how it ended after that, to be honest. There were like four versions. I do remember that The Joker, Batman and Falcone had a confrontation at some point in one, and Falcone essentially realized that his time had passed, and that the freaks were taking over. There were also very subtle hints that The Joker was Falcone's own son, sort of a black sheep of the family, but I never got that quite right. All I remember about the rest is that I stole the unused ending of BATMAN RETURNS, where Gordon and Dent wait for Batman and think he isn't coming, and then he does. And it was awesome. I wish it hadn't been deleted. I'm using elements of it in BATMAN: THE MUSICAL.

I'll post my ideas for the third one in a while. It involved Two-Face, Hugo Strange and many other freaks, as well as the machnications of upstart mob boss Oswald Cobblepot.
 
That sounds pretty cool, did you writeit before or after BB? Mine were concieved just before TDK was announced, ensuring that a lot of people figured most of my stories were just a rip off.

I like the ideas though, especially Bruce *choosing* to enter the cave rather than finding it.
 
Fear not, Guard.


Your script's up at 'batmanfanfilms.'
 
I like the ideas though, especially Bruce *choosing* to enter the cave rather than finding it.

I don't mind him falling into it...but I liked the idea of him finding this place, using it as a refuge, but not being ready for what it held.

That sounds pretty cool, did you writeit before or after BB? Mine were concieved just before TDK was announced, ensuring that a lot of people figured most of my stories were just a rip off.

I wrote BATMAN: GENESIS about a year before the BATMAN BEGINS script leaked. It was based on a prior series of TV show scripts I did called BATMAN: THE SERIES (I know, right?). I didn't release it because I wasn't happy with it just yet. I think I put it online a few weeks after the script leaked because people were in a script frenzy. I got the usual "You ripped off BATMAN BEGINS" nonsense amidst good reviews of it, but was able to defend pretty much any allegations. As my script takes completely different approaches to the material, storylines, and even the similar and same characters.

And yes, it's up at batmanfanfilms.com.
 
The third story, BATMAN: SHADOWS, featured the introduction of Dr. Hugo Strange of Arkham Asylum and the birth of Two-Face, as well as the appearance of several other major Arkham denizens. Also brought Rene Montoya into the mythology, as Bullock had been there since BATMAN: GENESIS. The whole "Do I cause the madness in Gotham" angle and "Can I keep doing this without losing my own mind" was the major theme here.

Gotham was debating the value of Batman's presence given the attraction of men like The Joker. The story began with the pursuit and capture of serial killer The Scarecrow. The Scarecrow was the latest in a series of "Arkham" threats to Gotham. Bruce Wayne was making headway in Gotham, with The Wayne Foundation going full steam. Newcomer/opportunist Oswald Cobblepot was making things difficult for him on both the business and the mob side of things, but Batman was keeping him in check, using him for information more than anything else. So was Dent. The political corruption had been mostly cleared out with the arrival of a new Mayor: Krol (Hamilton Hill was in the second story). Gordon became Commissioner and had formed a new Major Crimes unit.

The beginning of the story dealt with the stress Bruce Wayne was undergoing trying to keep Gotham clean with emerging mob/gang elements in the vaccum left by Falcone's organization (This was The Penguin's influence). Harvey Dent began the prosecution of Falcone toward the beginning of the story (He tried to do so in GENESIS too, and failed miserably due to corruption, so this was like a "full circle/second chance" kind of thing.

There were copycat Batman dealing out violence to Gotham criminals, and this became an issue. Batman went hunting for them, ran into Catwoman. Bruce and Selina were a quasi item again, with Catwoman mixing things up for Batman now and then. There was a staged riot at Arkham Asylum toward the middle of the story, presumably started by The Joker, with all hell breaking loose and Batman arriving. Strange was behind this, apparently meaning to gauge the Batman's skill and observe his methods. Strange was taken hostage by The Joker/Zsasz in different versions, and rescued by Batman.

Harvey Dent, who had started to have shady dealings with Maroni in the prior storyline, now started having them with The Penguin, who essentially sold him to Falcone. Having used up his goodwill with the mob, he was scarred for being two-faced with them during a court appearance, and later, when Falcone's case fell through a second time, went on his personal vendetta against those the law would not prosecute or punish outright. He turned against his former friend James Gordon, too at one point, only sparing his life because of the coin toss, which Montoya convinced him to do.

At roughly the same time, Bruce Wayne, who had been hunting for the imposter Batman, was lured into a trap by Hugo Strange, who sought to replace him (the source of the copycat Batman), believing that Batman wasn't doing enough to stem the violence in Gotham. It was a pseudo KNIGHTFALL/STRANGE APPARATIONS kind of thing, except that Strange actually became Batman and went out and did things, he didn't just talk about it. Strange, who had contacts with The Joker, also served as a sort of twisted mentor/shrink to a spiraling Harvey Dent/Two-Face and to Bruce Wayne after he was captured. He and Dent shared the same ideas about justice. The idea was that Strange realized that you could not rehabiliate the kind of evil that infested Gotham. That it had to be eradicated. He imprisoned Bruce Wayne in Arkham and kept him on a diet of fear toxin, leading to all kinds of fun hallucinations.

Catwoman investigated the disappearance of Bruce Wayne and Batman, she and Gordon crossed paths, and eventually joined forces along with Gordon, Sarah Essen, Bullock and Montoya to help Batman when Catwoman tracked the imposter back to Arkham. Two-Face was wreaking havoc throughout all this, killing city officials and political people (judge), forcing Gordon to prioritize.

Bruce Wayne escaped Arkham and stopped Hugo Strange. He then had to go back to Arkham, where the inmates, specifically Two-Face and The Joker, had taken over. In his weakened state he was pretty much no match for the inmates, though he made a hell of an effort. There was a "Trial of Batman" sort of scene at the end, with The Joker, Dent, and the inmates of Arkham overseeing The Dark Knight's fate.

In one version of the script, Dick Grayson was introduced when Bruce and Selina went to a Cirque De Solei type performance, and though he aided Batman in the end during his "trial", he did not become Robin. I wrote him out, as it was just too forced. If Strange was in, Dick could not be, and I really liked having Hugo Strange play a role.

The Joker took part in the trial of Batman as well as serving as an informant of sorts, and ended up murdering Strange for daring to try to usurp and kill Batman.

Quite honestly, the script was a mess when I lost it, although it had some great elements and nods to the mythology. I kept putting Strange in and then taking him back out. At one point I removed him and wrote a 45 minute fanfilm based on his elements, which I'm still looking to film at some point. But I'd only written about 70 pages of it, and it would have been at least 130, and I was confident that I could get it to work. There was a lot going on, but it all c ould have come together fairly well. Basically everything culminated in Arkham, and that's where it was going to end. I couldn't think of where to go for a fourth storyline other than maybe Robin. I kicked around a Batman, Robin, Ra's Al Ghul and Talia storyline, but I'd already done that one with THE DARK KNIGHT.
 
That all sounds pretty awsome, I can tell you're using a lot of comics as a base, which is awsome. My plan was to stick as faithfully to the comics as I could, but with every superhero movie, sometimes you have to strike out your own ideas.

Good read Guardian, I only wrote like 10 pages of the first script, but now i've caught the bug again, I may go back and start writing more.

Just out of interest, any fantasy cast choices?
 

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