Mank | David Fincher & Gary Oldman

[DKDetective]

The Social Network is one of the greatest films of the century.

Anyway, Best Picture and Best Director winner right here.

The Social Network is his crowning achievement. I’d say Zodiac and Gone Girl are probably better than Fight Club, too.

The Social Network is just plain phenomenal. I'd agree that it is easily Fincher's greatest work. Also, I think Fight Club is massively overrated.

 

[Marvolo]

Fincher should have shot this in 1.37 Academy ratio.

 

[Black Narcissus]

Zodiac for me is still Fincher's best flick. I watch it once a year, it aged like a fine glass of whiskey.

 

[Neil McCauley]

It has to be Se7en for me, Zodiac is solid but not as great as Se7en.

The Game is also very underrated and quite good, but works better as a first watch. (You know why) It's even to TGWTT and Zodiac for me.

Se7en has a great story, performances, great ending and cinematography, a good villain, it's much better paced than either Club or Zodiac and constantly keeps going until Doe gets captured. It's his most consistent and better film by far. It has aged much better than Fight Club aswell.

 

[Black Narcissus]

Eh, I disagree on the pacing with Se7en here. I recently rewatched it and it started to drag. Granted, this also has to do with how many times I've seen it by now. Zodiac till this day still grips me in.

 

[Marvolo]

Zodiac drags for me, but Se7en is one of those films that I wanted more of when the credits rolled.

The Game lost me with its resolution, and Ive never been able to watch it again.

 

[antsman41]

Zodiac for me is still Fincher's best flick. I watch it once a year, it aged like a fine glass of whiskey.

- masterpiece -
Zodiac

- A -
The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo
The Social Network

- B -
Gone Girl
The Game
Seven
Fight Club

- C -
Panic Room
ALI3N

- D -
The Curious Case Of Benjamin Button

 

[Kane52630]

It's been a while since I saw Zodiac, but I recently saw Se7en again and it's near perfect.

 

[Doctor Jones]

Zodiac is my favorite Fincher film. An absolute masterpiece and will only keep getting better with age. I'm glad it's on the streaming services so more people can discover it. I think this movie would be a Netflix original if it were made today. More people seem to be watching it than in theaters.

 

[CaptainWagner]

I think this is in the bag.

Black and white? Check.

True story? Check.

Movie about old Hollywood? Check.

Yeah, it does seem to be an Oscar Bait checklist, which I feel like has kind of muffled my hype for it. But it is Fincher, so odds are it will be far better than most movies like this. There are three long-overdue directors in the running this year with Kaufman, Fincher and Spike Lee, and all of them are offering from Netflix. It's going to clean house. (Netflix is also repping Ma Rainey's Black Bottom, which is already frontrunner for Supporting Actor sight-unseen because of Boseman)

It's great no doubt, but I prefer Black Swan and Inception by a huge margin in that year.

We'll see with this film, Fincher's lastest films have been pretty good, but he hasn't matched his best films IMO.

This still hurts. All those iconic films and instead we get Tom Hooper and The King's Speech.

 

[Neil McCauley]

Yeah, it does seem to be an Oscar Bait checklist, which I feel like has kind of muffled my hype for it. But it is Fincher, so odds are it will be far better than most movies like this. There are three long-overdue directors in the running this year with Kaufman, Fincher and Spike Lee, and all of them are offering from Netflix. It's going to clean house. (Netflix is also repping Ma Rainey's Black Bottom, which is already frontrunner for Supporting Actor sight-unseen because of Boseman)



This still hurts. All those iconic films and instead we get Tom Hooper and The King's Speech.

It was an Oscar bait film, lmao. I would be fine with Network winning, it's great how they made a Facebook story so interesting. But Inception is still one of my best theatre experience of all time, having rewatched it a few weeks ago it's still amazing. I agree that TSN is by far his best written film alongside Se7en. Eisenberg was great in the role

Zodiac drags for me, but Se7en is one of those films that I wanted more of when the credits rolled.

The Game lost me with its resolution, and Ive never been able to watch it again.

Yeah, this. The Game is great but the ending hurts the rewatches a lot, less you think about the story and it's better... But I can go with *fiction logic* and still like it even after years.

Eh, I disagree on the pacing with Se7en here. I recently rewatched it and it started to drag. Granted, this also has to do with how many times I've seen it by now. Zodiac till this day still grips me in.

Se7en is perfectly paced. It starts with the investigation and shows the detectives life’s and how they act and plus we got an amazing 3rd act.

Zodiac kinda recycles the story in the 3rd act, still interesting and good but it has way lower rewatch value. I haven't seen it in a year and want to see Gone Girl, Panic Room and Fight Club in the future, these are very rewatchable.... I mean more than Zodiac.

 

[weezerspider]

1. The Social Network
2. Seven
3. Gone Girl
4. Zodiac
5. Fight Club
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6. The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo
7. The Game
8. Panic Room
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9. The Curious Case of Benjamin Button
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10. Alien 3

 

[scarlet-witch]

For some reason I thought Fincher's next movie was coming out in 2021 so it was a nice surprise to see it's next month, but I'm not crazy about black and white. I just think it looks so dull. The only two films that were made "recently" where I think black and white actually worked were Nebraska and The Lighthouse.

 

[Persona]

For some reason I thought Fincher's next movie was coming out in 2021 so it was a nice surprise to see it's next month, but I'm not crazy about black and white. I just think it looks so dull. The only two films that were made "recently" where I think black and white actually worked were Nebraska and The Lighthouse.

Roma had excellent B&W.

I think if the choice fits the film, do it. Scorsese could have done Raging Bull in lush color but instead he did B&W and its images are iconic. I can't imagine Eraserhead or The Elephant Man in color, even though Lynch is great with color.

But I also love a ton of old B&W movies, so different strokes.

 

[Persona]

If your concern is more specifically about digital B&W, I get it. But I think Roma showed that it can be done well.

I think for a movie that is somewhat centered around old Hollywood and Citizen Kane, B&W makes a lot of sense. Fincher is a very technical director, too... I guess my concern would be Messerschmidt not being super experienced in terms of DPing movies, so we will see how he does.

 

[Motown Marvel]

Zodiac and Se7en are both masterpieces. I do think Se7en is a tighter film though. Zodiac requires you to ignore how grossly inaccurate it is to history. It may have been true to Robert Graysmith's telling of the events, but he was verifiably full of s***. But the movie in and of itself, is incredible and under appreciated.

 

[MadVillainy]

I have a good feeling about this one

 

[scarlet-witch]

Roma had excellent B&W.

I think if the choice fits the film, do it. Scorsese could have done Raging Bull in lush color but instead he did B&W and its images are iconic. I can't imagine Eraserhead or The Elephant Man in color, even though Lynch is great with color.

But I also love a ton of old B&W movies, so different strokes.

It's definitely different strokes. Roma was a huge bore for me and B&W didn't help, but I do agree with you on Raging Bull and Elephant Man, those were fine in black and white.

I get having it in black and white fits with the old movie theme, but for personal taste, it doesn't excite me.

 

[Albright]

So no Mank in October...
New to Netflix October 2020: All Movies & Shows Coming and Going - ComingSoon.net

 

[Boom]

Doesn't surprise me. With Oscar eligibility pushed to February 2021, I'm thinking they'll hold this until December or January, since it's presumably going to be their main horse.

 

[Pennywise]

 

[Albright]

...hasn’t happened yet, Aaron

 

[Persona]

Funny cuz Sorkin's own Netflix film, Trial of Chicago 7, is getting rave reactions and Oscar buzz on Twitter now.

No two ways about it, if there is an Oscars for this year, Netflix is gonna dominate the nominations.

 

[Boom]

Assuming the Oscars aren't cancelled. Today's postponements do make one wonder just how many movies will actually have theatrical releases this year. The studios still have pull with the Academy, and they'd likely rather see the awards cancelled outright than see Netflix and Amazon clean house so thoroughly.

 

[Kane52630]

Some David Fincher/Ringer content

The David Fincher Rankings, Part I

The David Fincher Rankings, Part II

‘Se7en’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan