Mark Millar's Many Thoughts On Superman

[Ultimate_Superman]

Millar is an okay writer for Superman have you guys forgot Superman Adventures? He had a great run on the series. I think he can write a great Superman movie provided DC sets some guidelines. Which I think he wouldn't have a problem with.

 

[The Sage]

Millar doesn't get Superman? you guys don't know what you're talking about if you honestly believe that. Look I'm far from his biggest fan matter of fact the guy is one of the reasons I swore off Marvel comics forever. However one thing he does get is Superman. Forget Red Son for a minute you guys need to read his work on the STAS comic series Superman Adventures.

Peep that and you will see those are some of the greatest Superman stories ever told and completely true to the character and his world. The story where Clark and Superman are two seperate beings is one of my all time favorite Superman stories. I wouldn't have an issue if he was tapped to write a new Superman story cause a lot of people in Hollywood just don't get the character and Millar has proven that he does.

Millar is an okay writer for Superman have you guys forgot Superman Adventures? He had a great run on the series. I think he can write a great Superman movie provided DC sets some guidelines. Which I think he wouldn't have a problem with.

Right on.

Which issues? The only Millar Superman story I've read is Red Son--fantastic btw.

 

[I Am The Knight]

I haven't read those STAS comics. Is there a TPB with his issues?

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

"Millar: This is also one of the reasons Superman shouldn't be married to Lois. It's just stupid. It makes no sense and destroys the whole dynamic. Superman is God, Jor-El is the Holy Spirit and Clark Kent is Jesus. The Kents are Mary and Joseph and Lois is Mary Magdelene. She's the NYC girl who's ****ed her way around the city and found nobody who measures up. She's just had it with men and is focusing on her career... then Superman shows up.
(...)
Interviewer: He must Love Lois? No?
Millar: Drop your child among monkeys when he's weeks old and see what happens. He'll get monkey characteristics, but he won't want to shag one of them. Even though he's never met another person he'll feel different... and monkeys are closer to us than we are to Superman. Think about THAT, baby.
Did tarzan want to **** Cheetah? No, he waited for Jane. He knew he wasn't a monkey; he just liked hanging out with them."

And some people want this guy anywhere near a Superman film??? WTF??

These comments are why I don't want him for Superman.

 

[The Sage]

Well here are my reasons...

I too don't think the Kents--at least Pa Kent--need to be around once he becomes an adult because it make him weak to go home for advice.

His view that Superman became Earth's protector to inspire people to live up to their potential, I agree with that. I agree with his view that Lois Lane is someone who's given up on dating and believing there being a good man until Superman appears.

His view that Clark Kent allows Superman to walk among humanity and have a life outside of saving the world.

I don't mind the religious metaphors, as they're one of the reasons I love the character, and they're unavoidable. I don't think Millar would be as heavy handed as most people believe and as most people in the past have been.

The last reason is because I've read one of his Superman works and absolutely loved it. Superman Red Son has one of the best interpretations of Lex Luthor yet. I truly believe he understands the characters and would create something special.

 

[Ultimate_Superman]

Right on.

Which issues? The only Millar Superman story I've read is Red Son--fantastic btw.

I haven't read those STAS comics. Is there a TPB with his issues?

Millars run with Superman Adventures was great he did Superman Returns in issue before there was a Superman Returns. He had alot of great stories and ideas and it worked because DC set some guidelines for him. If they do that for the movie or even if he was writing a ongoing issue Millar would be fine and as I said I am sure he would not have a problem with it.

Also to answer the question asked by Sage his run was issue 16, 19, 22-38 and 41 and 52

 

[The Sage]

Millars run with Superman Adventures was great he did Superman Returns in issue before there was a Superman Returns. He had alot of great stories and ideas and it worked because DC set some guidelines for him. If they do that for the movie or even if he was writing a ongoing issue Millar would be fine and as I said I am sure he would not have a problem with it.

Also to answer the question asked by Sage his run was issue 16, 19, 22-38 and 41 and 52

Thanks man, appreciate it.

 

[I Am The Knight]

DC set some guidelines for him.

I like that.

 

[BATZARRO WWD]

Besides, I doubt they'd carry that "Tarzan/Chitah relationship" in script polishing, or even then during direction.

 

[dark_b]

These comments are why I don't him for Superman.

i just wanted to post this.
thank you for doing it.

he compared us to monkeys. bravo.


again: how can a writter be so childish and promote himself half year to be a writter for the new superman movie? i understand leaks from AICN and IESB. but this guy is promoting himself. why is he not quet about hes sueprman story? why is he going always public? because he is promoting himself.

 

[The Sage]

The Tarzan/Cheetah analogy is the only thing I disagree with, but I kind of see what he's trying to say.

 

[dark_b]

The Tarzan/Cheetah analogy is the only thing I disagree with, but I kind of see what he's trying to say.

but this is not superman to me.

are we talking about an alien that looks 100% like a human and has a penis?

 

[Cain]

I haven't read those STAS comics. Is there a TPB with his issues?

Look them up on amazon and you'll find them real cheap

Well here are my reasons...

I too don't think the Kents--at least Pa Kent--need to be around once he becomes an adult because it make him weak to go home for advice.

Personally though I like Ma and Pa if both are dead I don't have a problem with that. Just adds to how lonely the character is but that's the hook. That's what makes him such an inspiring character the selflessness that the Kent's taught him and how he used that in his gifts to become a living beacon of hope.

He's the last of his kind and basically immortal here on earth. He will outlive everybody he loves but he will never leave because he believes in the world and won't turn his back on them when he's the only one that does what he does. Of course that is the one thing he learned from them and why they're so important but he doesn't need them around anymore from a storytelling perspective once he leaves Smallville.

His view that Superman became Earth's protector to inspire people to live up to their potential, I agree with that. I agree with his view that Lois Lane is someone who's given up on dating and believing there being a good man until Superman appears.

Definitely. I'm a 20 something year old male in NYC I speak from experience when I say a lot of professional single women out here have that perspective. Cause a lot of us guys are jerks to them. Hell I've been an ass to many women I dated I'm no Superman. So you know for Lois it's like she finally meets somebody who could actually be a match for her. A real challenge and a genuinely good man.

If Superman was real and took place in NYC in 2008 single Lois Lane would be dating guys for sport she wouldn't take any of them seriously and use them just as much as the guys use her. That's single life but then Superman comes along and she falls in love she finally has no problem with being the relationship type. She's amazed by him.

His view that Clark Kent allows Superman to walk among humanity and have a life outside of saving the world.

Exactly, Clark Kent is not him being who he really is but what his adoptive parents taught him. He instills the human aspect om Superman he's who we relate to.

I don't mind the religious metaphors, as they're one of the reasons I love the character, and they're unavoidable. I don't think Millar would be as heavy handed as most people believe and as most people in the past have been.

Singer's movie is an example of going heavy handed with it yet nobody had a problem with it there in terms of the movie's fanbase. I don't get the backlash. People who don't get it are the same that don't get "Lois loves Superman, Superman loves Clark and Clark loves Lois." it's something that's been a part of the character for the greater part of his history you can't avoid it.

I truly believe he understands the characters and would create something special.

I agree.

 

[Crook]

I too don't think the Kents--at least Pa Kent--need to be around once he becomes an adult because it make him weak to go home for advice.

Well then you minds as well kill off Ma Kent. My problem with that is it makes him too similar to Bruce. One thing I loved is Clark always had his parents to go back to, while Bruce didn't. That and the Kents represent Clark's small-town values and are a means of shaping his character. Not just in Smallville, but in Metropolis when he finally decides to become Superman.

Definitely. I'm a 20 something year old male in NYC I speak from experience when I say a lot of professional single women out here have that perspective. Cause a lot of us guys are jerks to them. Hell I've been an ass to many women I dated I'm no Superman. So you know for Lois it's like she finally meets somebody who could actually be a match for her. A real challenge and a genuinely good man.

If Superman was real and took place in NYC in 2008 single Lois Lane would be dating guys for sport she wouldn't take any of them seriously and use them just as much as the guys use her. That's single life but then Superman comes along and she falls in love she finally has no problem with being the relationship type. She's amazed by him.

Bravo. I've been saying this so many times but it falls on deaf ears. I'm only disheartened that the only person whose views share mines is exactly like me....because I ALSO happen to be a 20 year old Male in NYC.

Are we the only type that understand this concept? Is it that alien?

 

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are we talking about an alien that looks 100% like a human and has a penis?

Does he..?

 

[The Sage]

Well then you minds as well kill off Ma Kent. My problem with that is it makes him too similar to Bruce. One thing I loved is Clark always had his parents to go back to, while Bruce didn't. That and the Kents represent Clark's small-town values and are a means of shaping his character. Not just in Smallville, but in Metropolis when he finally decides to become Superman.

But once those values are instilled in him, Clark doesn't need his parents around once he's a man and already Superman.

Bravo. I've been saying this so many times but it falls on deaf ears. I'm only disheartened that the only person whose views share mines is exactly like me....because I ALSO happen to be a 20 year old Male in NYC.

Are we the only type that understand this concept? Is it that alien?

I just said the same thing in my reply to Cain.

 

[terry78]

OK, it's getting a tad too touchy-feely up in this piece. Let's go back to whether Supes should use his heat vision to give lobotomies to his adversaries.

 

[SuperDaniel]

But once those values are instilled in him, Clark doesn't need his parents around once he's a man and already Superman.



I just said the same thing in my reply to Cain.

It's not about that. You're never too old for good support and advice. Plus, I don't like any tragedy related to the formation of Superman.

 

[The Sage]

It's not about that. You're never too old for good support and advice. Plus, I don't like any tragedy related to the formation of Superman.

What can the Kents give him advice for? How how would they know how to handle the problems that he goes through?

Losing his parents wouldn't motivate him to become Superman. And tragedy already exists in his formation from Krypton's destruction.

 

[Hole Shot]

"Millar: This is also one of the reasons Superman shouldn't be married to Lois. It's just stupid. It makes no sense and destroys the whole dynamic. Superman is God, Jor-El is the Holy Spirit and Clark Kent is Jesus. The Kents are Mary and Joseph and Lois is Mary Magdelene. She's the NYC girl who's ****ed her way around the city and found nobody who measures up. She's just had it with men and is focusing on her career... then Superman shows up.

I can hear the pitch now, it's like Smallville meets Sex in the City!

What can the Kents give him advice for?

To remind him what comes with great power.

But once those values are instilled in him, Clark doesn't need his parents around once he's a man and already Superman.

But the audience needs the Kents because they help make him more human - it's the connecting with the character thing. You may not agree with it, but it's something the studio definitely considers.

 

[dark_b]

come on guys. WB just needs the parents.
peter has hes aunt.
bruce has alfred
let superman also have some old parent for advice.

 

[The Sage]

To remind him what comes with great power.

He already knows what comes with great power because they raised him the right way.

But the audience needs the Kents because they help make him more human - it's the connecting with the character thing. You may not agree with it, but it's something the studio definitely considers.

That's what Lois Lane, Jimmy Olsen, and Clark Kent are for.

 

[TruerToTheCore]

come on guys. WB just needs the parents.
peter has hes aunt.
let superman also have some old parent for advice.

Superman is the opposite of Spider-Man.

 

[dark_b]

bruce has alfred for advice. peter the aunt. superman should have hes parents.

 

[TruerToTheCore]

bruce has alfred for advice. peter the aunt. superman should have hes parents.

As we have learned recently that Siegel's father was killed. That is reflected in Superman's origin story.

And Superman should be a real man, not a "boy in a man's body" like Batman. He can make his own decisions. And a movie is just about 2 hours, so we don't need these extra characters. Their only purpose is to die. Lex, Lois, Jimmy, Perry, Cat (that's the only post-crisis character I wanna see )... are already enough. And not this Hamilton guy please. He should be in SUperman's brain, you know.