Mark Millar's Many Thoughts On Superman

[metr0man]

I think people take his earlier comments the wrong way. He was giving some general Millar-esque rambling thoughts when asked about his COMIC story, stuff that had nothing to do with the story really just his own background.

I like what I'm hearing from this RECENT interview. I love going all the way from Krypton of the past ALL the way to a few hundred thousand years in OUR future. EPIC! That's what we need!!

 

[Ita-KalEl]

Millar's vision is interesting.
If the director is really good, I would give him a chance.

 

[dark_b]

i can not take a guy serious who says that he wants to be faithful to the comics yet he is extreme happy with WANTED.
if some of you are here naive and belive everything then fine. but i am going to play it safe and belive NOTHING.

 

[The son becomes]

Does anyone know yet who his mystery director is? I'm really surprised this hasn't been leaked. Who knows, it could be Singer – It's a long shot but it makes sense and fits his description.

 

[TruerToTheCore]

It's not that he doesn't understand Superman. He understands one version of Superman just fine. But he seems to be unaware of the character's overall potential.

He understands the authentic Superman. The modern one... is not Superman, it's a yuppie/farmboy with superpowers.

Time to bury this version and letting Millar re-create the iconic version for the 21th century.

 

[Cain]

One million years into the future huh? I know Millar and Morrison are buddies so I wonder if that is a reference to Morrison's original Superman Prime (not the villain).

there are at least 20 posts in this thread. the most important are at the beginning and at the end.

Yeah buddy I looked there's nothing there that tells me he doesn't get Superman at all.

It's not that he doesn't understand Superman. He understands one version of Superman just fine. But he seems to be unaware of the character's overall potential.

It's not that he's unaware of the potential if anything it's that he realizes that there are so many ways to use the character and his world outside of this post-crisis rut people seem to be stuck on. The version he does understand just fine happens to be the version that was around for the majority of the character's history. The one we've never really seen explored in any adapted media in decades time so at this point it'd be something fresh again. There is plenty of potential in awesome storytelling with the pre-crisis Superman if Morrison's All-Star series has showed us anything it's that.

 

[Cain]

Time to bury this version and letting Millar re-create the iconic version for the 21th century.

I think it may be time for that too. The few comic readers that are in my social circle well they're marvel zombies. They don't read any DC characters with 2 exceptions Green Lantern and Superman. These people became Superman fans after regularly reading Johns' silver age influenced run on AC and Morrison's tribute to silver age Superman All-Star Superman. I don't think it's a coincidence that they prefer to see Superman being Super as opposed to 20 pages of Clark Kent.

Simply because it gives them a perspective on the character they weren't really familiar with thanks to Smallville, STAS, Lois & Clark and the 90's comics. I think the world in general is ready for Superman media now that doesn't worry so much about a super powered Clark Kent and concerns itself with telling fun stories starring Superman again. This isn't a knock either as I love STAS and have enjoyed post-crisis for what it is but I think it's generally a boring dynamic for a lot of people in this day and age. Supes needs to go back to the escapism that was embraced during the golden, silver and bronze age cause many people don't know that Superman. I mean for christ sakes people confuse Donner Superman with pre-crisis Superman that ought to tell you everything right there.

 

[The Sage]

One million years into the future huh? I know Millar and Morrison are buddies so I wonder if that is a reference to Morrison's original Superman Prime (not the villain).

I was thinking the same thing. Millar must want to explore Superman's immortality, which beyond Smallville's brief hint in its first season, has never been done in live-action.

 

[Sam]

One million years into the future huh? I know Millar and Morrison are buddies so I wonder if that is a reference to Morrison's original Superman Prime (not the villain).

I dunno. I can be it, or maybe Millar is thinking about show Superman ressonance and legacy he left due his believes and actions. Like an epilogue about how a man can make a difference and inspire the world (and universe) in a long terms.

Like in comics, and how Legion of Super Hero was created inspired by Superman, the greates hero of all time.

Something in these lines. Who knows?

 

[Sam]

Does anyone know yet who his mystery director is? I'm really surprised this hasn't been leaked. Who knows, it could be Singer – It's a long shot but it makes sense and fits his description.

Its not Singer. From Millar interview:

"And then this call came out of the blue which was totally unexpected about maybe 10 weeks ago and it was a friend who was a director, who said, "Are you still interested in doing Superman?" And I said, "Well, yeah, of course. But it's not going to happen." Because Bryan Singer was going off to do "Man of Steel" and I had no interest in anything like that. I just wanted to do a reboot -- a completely new invention; a whole new way of doing it. And he said, "Bryan has talked to Warner Bros. and he's got a lot of other projects and he may not be doing 'Man of Steel' now and Warner Bros. had said to me, are you interested in directing it? And he said to them, "I have a friend who is a huge Superman fan and I'll direct it if he writes it because he's got a lot of great ideas about Superman." And that just restarted everything again. Oh my god. "

 

[SuperDaniel]

Millar ideas sounds really good. Especially the history on Krypton, Brainiac and 10 million years in the future of Earth.

 

[The son becomes]

Thanks Sam, does anyone know who it is?

 

[I Am The Knight]

Some people think it's Bay...

 

[DarkSuperman]

Millar totally gets what I want to see in a superman film! Especially on the krypton front!

You've said this will be Superman's "Lord of the Rings."
I wanted to do Superman's entire life. That's my plan, to tell an epic Superman story. I love the structure of the three "The Godfather" films. Just something that starts with a young man building up to him being an old man. I just think with Superman, you can't go small on it. So I wanted to do something like a Superman magnum opus -- a giant Superman three-picture spectacular with a story that runs between seven and eight hours.


The story I've got is colossal. It's got everything I like about Superman all in one movie. It's a lifetime's worth of notes all put together. It starts 1,000 years ago on Krypton and with the technology we have now, I see people saying, "No. We don't need to see Krypton again." And all that. But really, you haven't seen Krypton before. You've seen lame TV show special effects. And you've seen pre-CGI technology of Krypton before. And the idea of scarlet jungles and jewel mountains and just Superman's genealogy; his ancestors. There's lot to play with -- Brainiac and so on. So starting there and then going 10 million years in the future by the end of the third movie. It's just a giant movie.


http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=18028

This is what I've been asking for from a cinematic krypton for YEARS! And I just know he'd deliver me a young Superman-esque Jor-El. No more of this old santa claus looking Super pops. Jor-El has always looked like Superman.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I still don't want him for the next Superman movie.

 

[terry78]

If he can make it dramatic yet still give it that sense of fun, I'd be willing to give him a chance. If it comes out boring and self-serving....no.

 

[Astrodust]

I am willing to give Millar a chance. He and his director friend just have to put together a decent presentation to WB. Anything would be better than Superman Returns.

 

[Cain]

Some people think it's Bay...

I think only fanbvoys came to that conclusion. Bay has never made a project over at WB. So he hasn't made any hits for them in the past and have clout with the execs. Millar was so vague that it could be anyone from Francis Lawrence to even Richard Donner himself lol.

 

[TruerToTheCore]

I still don't want him for the next Superman movie.

I'm not a Millar fan but here he is right and he seems to be the best thing we lovers of the authentic Superman can get for Superman.

 

[Cain]

Anything would be better than Superman Returns.

Very true.

 

[Astrodust]

I have to say I hope it is Bay. Cue the boos now. I just think the action would be awesome and I want to see Superman do big numbers. They Can't NOT have Superman do big numbers this time around. The director Millar described is apparently popular, high octane, and a huge deal right now. There are big directors like Cameron, Spielberg, and Scott but I doubt they would consider doing Superman. Bay and Peter Jackson might fit the criteria of high octane and a huge deal in Hollywood right now.

 

[Cain]

I'm not a Millar fan but here he is right and he seems to be the best thing we lovers of the authentic Superman can get for Superman.

I'm not a fan. Growing up I was a DC and Marvel reader but as an adult just DC and Millar's writing is one of the things that turned me away from Marvel. They only had me with the NewUniversal revival by Ellis and then chickened out and put it on hiatus. I don't like Wanted or Kick-Ass either.

I think Grant Morrison & Garth Ennis were doing what he does better than him 14 years ago. So I'm no big Millar though his work on The Authority was good and I'd take early Ultimate X-Men over the movies anyday. I'm far from a big fan but the one thing I give him credit on the man knows himself some ****ing Superman. He happens to have a passion for the character too Red Son and his Superman Adventures run I'm telling you those are definitely written by a pre-crisis fan they're labors of love for the guy. Better him than some hack I say.

 

[nintendo nerd]

Very true.

Very false.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I thought that Ultimate X-Men was terrible. The issues I read were too teen soap for my taste. I just don't see X-Men like that.

I'm sorry guys, I just don't trust Millar to write a good Superman movie. I just can't get over some of the stuff he said. After Bryan Singer's debacle I can't give just anyone a chance anymore. I gave Singer a chance for a good while till I realized that he was going to blow it.Then I saw the movie and it comfirmed what I knew for months.

 

[Cain]

Very false.

Yeah so false that WB is about to push the reboot button on the franchise t:

Look I'm mixed on the film I saw it twice when it was in theatres once in IMAX 3D so it's not like I didn't lend out support. I'm a Superman fan it wasn't the movie I wanted but it was what we had you know. You spend your whole life waiting for a movie you want to make sure to get all the details.

That being said I don't know one person offline outside of females that liked this movie. It just wasn't well balanced it was way too one sided it was too depresssing for a Superman movie and the numbers show it because many people didn't go back to it except it's hardcore fanbase.

$270 Million dollar produtcion budget

391 million worldwide total

200 domestic

191 foreign

A 121 Million dollar profit when a Superman movie has no reason not to out perform a Batman movie. This is why it wasn't the best way to go in the long run. WB shot themselves in the foot with that movie their best interest always was and always will be money. This is why they're so happy with the Batman thing and it helped them realize maybe a quality product could make more money.

They needed a real blockbuster for Superman's movie comeback and SR wasn't it regardless of how you feel about it these are the facts otherwise we'd have the sequel coming soon. We could only hope they greenlight a Superman product worthy of big money.