Mark Millar's Many Thoughts On Superman

[kalelkilla]

You need the bumbling Clark in order to detract people from wondering that Clark Kent could possibly be Superman...it's part of his act...he can't be the Dean Cain version IMO because the reboot needs to base some of the mythos in reality and it needs to be explained that no one suspects Clark Kent to be Superman because when Clark does garner some attention, he acts like a a goof so people just laugh at him and dismiss him...plus it adds some comedic elements to the movie...if Clark was just a quiet, unassuming guy, but otherwise pretty cool, it would be easy for someone to put two and two together...especially Lois...he needs to put on the ACT...

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

No you don't. He can be unassuming without making himself look like a fool.

 

[Showtime]

You definately don't need the bumbling Clark, Routh's Clark was less bumbling and it worked out much better. You can further that and you got something there.

 

[sdc10]

Ya i mean theres ways of using Clark to make him seem less like Superman but you dont need to make him into a complete fool

 

[Sam]

What we need is three things answered from Millar.

1. Hints as to who "his" director is first and foremost without giving us the name.

2. Who the "other" director is he heard WB's has talked with.

3. A script review of his script that will leave out spoilers.

This is the only way us fans can get a feel for what he wants to do with the Superman franchise and give it the yay or nay.

About your first question (who is the director), and Michael Bay rumors, Millar said:

"Hi Russ, but you must be getting mixed up, bro. Stylistically, he'd be amazing and he's good at spectacle (which is what was missing from the last one). I'm actually a huge fan of Bay. Not into Bad Boys 2 or Pearl Harbour, but The Rock is one of my fave action movies EVAH!

PS It's not Bay. The director will be named soon because if we don't have Superman by January we're jumping onto something else together and then he can be unmasked."

About your third questions... forget it! He will never reveal anything more detailed like a review or anything (even it is a spoiler free) simply because i dont think he would like to tell his story to everyone.

Ultimately, he is going to give more details, but only after Warner says YES or NO to his project, and he be able to move forward to other projects. Mabe even adapt his story to comics. How knows?

 

[Double Down]

So, two more months of Millar hype? Great.

 

[raybia]

No, it is not.

Why?

I liked Cain's version which was essentially the Bryne's version of Clark Kent and the original version of Clark Kent from the late 30s early 40s.

 

[Sam]

Why?

I liked Cain's version which was essentially the Bryne's version of Clark Kent and the original version of Clark Kent from the late 30s early 40s.

I like Cain's version either, but it wasnt the original version of Clark kent of late 30s. Chris Reeve version is much more faithful to otiginal one in that sense.

Original Clark version, by Siegel and Shuster, was Superman pretending to be an shy and coward man. Like Reeve.

Cain version is much more like Byrne reboot.

 

[C. W. Saturn]

Why?

I liked Cain's version which was essentially the Bryne's version of Clark Kent and the original version of Clark Kent from the late 30s early 40s.

It is like Byrne's version but forget about the 30s/40s stuff. Doesn't matter who told you that, but the Golden Age Clark Kent is nothing more than a gimmick. He is even more an act than in the Silver Age.

 

[C. W. Saturn]

I like Cain's version either, but it wasnt the original version of Clark kent of late 30s. Chris Reeve version is much more faithful to otiginal one in that sense.

Original Clark version, by Siegel and Shuster, was Superman pretending to be an shy and coward man. Like Reeve.

Cain version is much more like Byrne reboot.

I wouldn't say he was "shy" and "coward", he was just "mild-mannered" and "unassuming" most of the time. Like a normal guy. But he was clearly an act.

 

[raybia]

I like Cain's version either, but it wasnt the original version of Clark kent of late 30s. Chris Reeve version is much more faithful to otiginal one in that sense.

Original Clark version, by Siegel and Shuster, was Superman pretending to be an shy and coward man. Like Reeve.

Cain version is much more like Byrne reboot.

It is like Byrne's version but forget about the 30s/40s stuff. Doesn't matter who told you that, but the Golden Age Clark Kent is nothing more than a gimmick. He is even more an act than in the Silver Age.

I stand corrected on the Golden age Kent.

 

[C. W. Saturn]

I like Cain's version either, but it wasnt the original version of Clark kent of late 30s. Chris Reeve version is much more faithful to otiginal one in that sense.

Original Clark version, by Siegel and Shuster, was Superman pretending to be an shy and coward man. Like Reeve.

Cain version is much more like Byrne reboot.

I wouldn't say he was "shy" and "coward", he was just "mild-mannered" and "unassuming" most of the time. Like a normal guy. But he was clearly an act.

One day I hope we get the "Byrne's Superman" = the "return of the Original Siegel Superman" misinformation out of the heads of the people.

Although it is worth mentioning that the Silver/Bronze/Golden Age Superman was never as exaggerated and extreme as Reeve played him.

 

[Sam]

I wouldn't say he was "shy" and "coward", he was just "mild-mannered" and "unassuming" most of the time. Like a normal guy. But he was clearly an act.

One day I hope we get the "Byrne's Superman" = the "return of the Original Siegel Superman" misinformation out of the heads of the people.

Although it is worth mentioning that the Silver/Bronze/Golden Age Superman was never as exaggerated and extreme as Reeve played him.

Oh, he wasnt mild-mannered. He was clarely acting like an shy and coward man. On Siegel/Shuter original version, Lois Lane simply hated Clark because of that. Really, Lois thinks Clark was disgusting because they way he acted back then.

I believe its possible to find out some of those panels on the web if look around.

Even Superman was way diferent. Sometimes, Superman didnt show up on his costume at all for a whole issue. And he liked to scare the bad guys to teach them lessons.

About Byrne, while i have to say i admire his work because he did exactly what he was asked to to at the time, his version is not like Siegel. So, ppl shouldnt confuse both

 

[rdh007]

I like bumbling Clark. But then again I grew up on Reeve.

 

[DavidTyler]

Maybe a poll should be put up ranking the different preformances of Clark by the different actors. It would answer the question of who's Clark is the most popular. ... at least on these boards.

My hands down fav is Dean Cain followed closely by Welling and George Reeves. None of those Clarks are bumbling.

Can Welling's Clark Kent be classified as the same as the others? He's playing Young Clark Kent before he takes up the dual personas.

No, he can not. Because Smallville is a big joke, just like Lois & Clark AKA The New Adventures of Mini-Man.

uh... this would NOT be a poll about whether or not you like Smallville. It would be a poll about favourite Clark portrayals.

 

[I Am The Knight]

But if there was a poll about wheter you like Smallville or not, I'd say NEEEAAAAGH!

 

[Prison Mike]

don't be dissing Smallville yo!

 

[solidsnake86]

I think people just like to dis Cain's Clark because its the cool thing to do. I personally like the Clark that is less bumbling and can at least keep up with lois. I absolutely dispise how weak he is portrayed in the Reeve movie's. Really, how I would explain why people don't realize Clark is superman because if an alien came down from another planet with all those powers why would he dress up as a regular human at a newspaper of all places. It's really that simple. The more bumbling it is the more it draws attention to him if anything.

 

[ultimatefan]

I was reading the AICN stuff on Millar´s thoughts, and I kind of agree with the guy... I don´t care how brilliant Millar thinks his plan is, I don´t wanna see the whole frikking canon reinvented for the billionth time... Just tell one good Superman story. You don´t need to directly refer to anything, do it like The Incredible Hulk, get the ball already rolling, Supes is there, Lois is there, Perry is there, etc., just give him a big shot villain from comics that´s never been used, make it about Superman facing the greatest enemy and battle of his life, making him vulnerable by giving him a formidable adversary, not some sentimental issue. Look at what The Joker did for TDK, give him a villain that seems invincible, that´s the big problem you need. Whatever personal issues the character gets spiral from that.

 

[nintendo nerd]

don't be dissing Smallville yo!

Smallville sux!!!!!!!!!!

 

[sdc10]

We dont need some overaching mega superman saga about his life, just make good stories to tell and put them on screen, god just give the script to Grant Morrison or Geoff Johns. I dont like the whole 3 part saga, cause god knows the first movie will be 2 hrs. just about his origin and i think people have gotten sick of seeing half of a movie dedicated to the origin let alone the whole thing.

 

[ShadowBoxing]

It seems to me those that feel Millar's vision is a good representation of Superman, don't spend their time actually reading Superman's comics.

 

[Cain]

It seems to me those that feel Millar's vision is a good representation of Superman, don't spend their time actually reading Superman's comics.

It seems to me those that feel Millar doesn't understand Superman have never read the 20 plus issues of a Supes monthly (Superman Adventures) that he wrote, let alone Red Son.

 

[Dark Jaguar]

It seems to me those that feel Millar doesn't understand Superman have never read the 20 plus issues of a Supes monthly (Superman Adventures) that he wrote, let alone Red Son.

I don't think he understands how to translate Superman to the big screen...

 

[sdc10]

Making an "8 hour epic" where in the end Superman dies, is not really how I want to see him translate to the big screen.