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Marvel Studios Retrospective Reviews

The next review will be a challenge, as I've seen The Avengers loads of times, and also written multiple reviews over the years! So I'll need to see if I can come at it from a different angle and say something new.
 
Great work and a nice read after all these years from when the movies came out.
 
Great review of Captain America: TFA! I have always enjoyed it a lot ever since I first saw it. I saw it twice when it was in theaters, and both times that I saw it in the theater, the audience broke out in applause at the end credits! I think that demonstrates that the movie really connects with a lot of people and engages their interest.
 
Great thread, Keyser. Thought I might catch up and give my own thoughts on the ones you've already covered.

Iron Man
This one definitely surprised me when it came out. I was looking forward to it, even though I wasn't much of an Iron Man fan at the time. I loved it, and I still do to this day. For me at least (and I'm sure many will agree), it was the best MCU solo film until Captain America: The Winter Soldier was released six years later. Still one of the best from Marvel Studios. As great as the supporting cast is, this movie is nothing without Robert Downey, Jr. He brought Tony Stark to life in such a way that without him, I don't think the MCU would be what it is today, or if it would even exist at all. Add that to the spectacular visual effects and a fresh story that took us places where superhero films hadn't ventured before, and it was just magic in a bottle. The Nick Fury post-credits cameo was just the icing on the cake. "Mr. Stark, you've become part of a bigger universe. You just don't know it yet." Who knew just how big that universe would get? I certainly didn't. And it's still growing.

The Incredible Hulk
This is the black sheep of the MCU. Say what you will about the Iron Man sequels or Thor: The Dark World. Some fans were harsh on those, but they're still acknowledged. The Incredible Hulk seems all but forgotten now, even by Marvel Studios. It's easy to see why: Universal still holds the distribution rights to the film, the CGI is pretty subpar compared to the Hulk we'd later see in The Avengers, and most obvious, Edward Norton is no longer playing Bruce Banner. It's a shame really. It's still a good film, but it's my least favorite in the MCU because of how obsolete it feels. Edward Norton was a good Banner. It makes you think about what could have been had negotiations not gone sour between him and Marvel. But at this point, everyone's mostly on the Ruffalo bandwagon that it almost would have been easier if he'd just been cast in the first place. There wasn't a bad performance from the supporting cast either. I liked Tim Roth as Blonsky in particular. Even though Hulk/Banner's finest hour in cinema at this point has been in The Avengers, I don't forget that this was the Hulk movie that I wanted after the disappointing Ang Lee adaptation.

Iron Man 2
The first sequel in the MCU wasn't met with the same praise as the first film, but I still enjoyed it. I still think it's the better of the two Iron Man sequels. Robert Downey, Jr. carries the movie yet again. There are two problems that stand out to me: One is that there isn't enough Iron Man, and the other is how great Whiplash was treated. So much lost potential. But I liked how War Machine was handled. I prefer Don Cheadle to Terrence Howard anyway. A lot of people give this movie crap for being too much of an Avengers setup, but you could say the same for Captain America or even Thor. Personally, I didn't think it was too much of a distraction. Black Widow had to be introduced somewhere, right? Not one of the best in the MCU, but it's still a worthy entry to me.

Thor
This was a pleasant surprise. I wasn't expecting much from it because out of the big four Avengers, Thor was the one I knew least about. It's a very enjoyable movie and Chris Hemsworth certainly did a great job of bringing the character to life. But we all know the real scene stealer is Tom Hiddleston's Loki. He remains the best villain we've seen in the MCU (at least until Ultron rears his metal head...maybe). I dig the supporting cast too. Yes, even Darcy. But Thor was groundbreaking because it showed that moviegoers were willing to accept that these movies were going to take us, quite literally, to other worlds. And everyone was on board with that.

Captain America: The First Avenger
The first time I saw this, it was at the midnight premiere. I had worked a 12 hour shift and I was exhausted, which hindered my enjoyment of the film. Since then, after repeated viewings, it really grew on me. I was skeptical when Chris Evans was cast, but he's really perfect for Steve. Hugo Weaving made for a great Red Skull too. I really hope that's not the last we've seen of him. As far as origin stories go, this one hits all the right marks. My only complaint is that the film feels rushed as soon as he becomes Captain America. There isn't much time at all between the time he rescues Bucky and the Howling Commandos and the final confrontation. It's one of the best solo films, but as good as it is, it hardly compares to its sequel.

Looking forward to the rest of your retrospectives!
 
I still think Iron Man 2 has the best cinematography among all the Marvel Studios films. It looks gorgeous.
 
Great thread, Keyser. Thought I might catch up and give my own thoughts on the ones you've already covered.

Iron Man
This one definitely surprised me when it came out. I was looking forward to it, even though I wasn't much of an Iron Man fan at the time. I loved it, and I still do to this day. For me at least (and I'm sure many will agree), it was the best MCU solo film until Captain America: The Winter Soldier was released six years later. Still one of the best from Marvel Studios. As great as the supporting cast is, this movie is nothing without Robert Downey, Jr. He brought Tony Stark to life in such a way that without him, I don't think the MCU would be what it is today, or if it would even exist at all. Add that to the spectacular visual effects and a fresh story that took us places where superhero films hadn't ventured before, and it was just magic in a bottle. The Nick Fury post-credits cameo was just the icing on the cake. "Mr. Stark, you've become part of a bigger universe. You just don't know it yet." Who knew just how big that universe would get? I certainly didn't. And it's still growing.

The Incredible Hulk
This is the black sheep of the MCU. Say what you will about the Iron Man sequels or Thor: The Dark World. Some fans were harsh on those, but they're still acknowledged. The Incredible Hulk seems all but forgotten now, even by Marvel Studios. It's easy to see why: Universal still holds the distribution rights to the film, the CGI is pretty subpar compared to the Hulk we'd later see in The Avengers, and most obvious, Edward Norton is no longer playing Bruce Banner. It's a shame really. It's still a good film, but it's my least favorite in the MCU because of how obsolete it feels. Edward Norton was a good Banner. It makes you think about what could have been had negotiations not gone sour between him and Marvel. But at this point, everyone's mostly on the Ruffalo bandwagon that it almost would have been easier if he'd just been cast in the first place. There wasn't a bad performance from the supporting cast either. I liked Tim Roth as Blonsky in particular. Even though Hulk/Banner's finest hour in cinema at this point has been in The Avengers, I don't forget that this was the Hulk movie that I wanted after the disappointing Ang Lee adaptation.

Iron Man 2
The first sequel in the MCU wasn't met with the same praise as the first film, but I still enjoyed it. I still think it's the better of the two Iron Man sequels. Robert Downey, Jr. carries the movie yet again. There are two problems that stand out to me: One is that there isn't enough Iron Man, and the other is how great Whiplash was treated. So much lost potential. But I liked how War Machine was handled. I prefer Don Cheadle to Terrence Howard anyway. A lot of people give this movie crap for being too much of an Avengers setup, but you could say the same for Captain America or even Thor. Personally, I didn't think it was too much of a distraction. Black Widow had to be introduced somewhere, right? Not one of the best in the MCU, but it's still a worthy entry to me.

Thor
This was a pleasant surprise. I wasn't expecting much from it because out of the big four Avengers, Thor was the one I knew least about. It's a very enjoyable movie and Chris Hemsworth certainly did a great job of bringing the character to life. But we all know the real scene stealer is Tom Hiddleston's Loki. He remains the best villain we've seen in the MCU (at least until Ultron rears his metal head...maybe). I dig the supporting cast too. Yes, even Darcy. But Thor was groundbreaking because it showed that moviegoers were willing to accept that these movies were going to take us, quite literally, to other worlds. And everyone was on board with that.

Captain America: The First Avenger
The first time I saw this, it was at the midnight premiere. I had worked a 12 hour shift and I was exhausted, which hindered my enjoyment of the film. Since then, after repeated viewings, it really grew on me. I was skeptical when Chris Evans was cast, but he's really perfect for Steve. Hugo Weaving made for a great Red Skull too. I really hope that's not the last we've seen of him. As far as origin stories go, this one hits all the right marks. My only complaint is that the film feels rushed as soon as he becomes Captain America. There isn't much time at all between the time he rescues Bucky and the Howling Commandos and the final confrontation. It's one of the best solo films, but as good as it is, it hardly compares to its sequel.

Looking forward to the rest of your retrospectives!

Thanks for sharing your reviews! Cool to read your thoughts.
 
These are some really well done reviews, you raise a lot of great points. Keep em coming. :up:
 
THE AVENGERS

Given how massive a critical and commercial hit THE AVENGERS was, how gargantuan the Marvel Cinematic Universe has become, and how huge the anticipation is for the imminent sequel, THE AVENGERS has accrued a certain sense of inevitability around it. The dominant narrative to have emerged is that this is the natural culmination of the entire Phase 1 that came before it, everything masterfully leading to this. But rewatching the early output of Marvel Studios has served as a reminder of what a Hail Mary pass THE AVENGERS was in a lot of ways. While I feel all the Marvel Studios films have been at least good, at this point the studio had failed to really hit a home run since their debut with IRON MAN, with not even that film's sequel doing the trick. So there was some concern about this potentially being a one-man show where Robert Downey Jr. acted his co-stars off the screen. And while Marvel Studios basks in our adoration now, in its early days there were growing pains, with the studio gaining a reputation for being cheap and for mistreating its actors. And even the marketing in the lead-up to THE AVENGERS didn't light the world on fire, with trailers feeling small-scale compared to the more epic, sweeping scope of the marketing for Batman trilogy-closer THE DARK KNIGHT RISES, which managed to gobble up a good chunk of Marvel's hype pre-release. I know that back in 2012 I was certainly more excited for Batman.

All this is to say that the success of THE AVENGERS was no sure thing. The future of the Marvel Cinematic Universe as a whole was no sure thing at this stage. Which is one succinct way of underlining what a wondrous achievement THE AVENGERS was. Because, of course, the movie killed. It became one of the highest-grossing films of all time, and generated a groundswell of goodwill that defied demographic: kids and adults, comic fans and casual moviegoers, critics high-brow and low, the film garnered near-universal praise from all quarters. In fact, I'd argue that the Marvel Cinematic Universe exists as the behemoth it is today because of THE AVENGERS. This was the film that skyrocketed the output of Marvel Studios from upper mid-range blockbusters to tentpole cultural events. Not only did the film kill in its own right, but it also set off a tsunami of success and positive momentum which every subsequent Marvel film has been able to ride, adding gravitas and clout to all the solo films that have followed. More than that, it even retroactively gave increased credibility to the solo films that preceded it for now being preludes to THE AVENGERS. If, as I suggested in an earlier review, Marvel Studios is the house that Robert Downey Jr built, then its THE AVENGERS that bought the lease, cemented the foundations, and ensured that house can stand the test of time.

Much of the credit for the gargantuan achievement that is THE AVENGERS must go to writer/director Joss Whedon. I've written several reviews of THE AVENGERS now, and yet it's always Whedon I find myself starting with. The phrase I like to throw out there is that he managed to make a film that is simultaneously an accessible first film in a new franchise that someone could enjoy having not seen any other Marvel film, an effective sequel for every individual franchise whose characters are featured here that must progress each hero's arc in a meaningful way, and an appropriate thematic cousin to Whedon's own previous body of work. That's a lot of plates to spin! It's no surprise Whedon was made an "architect" of this shared cinematic universe, as he is able to put his finger right on the pulse of what makes each character tick and what makes them appealing, with the result being that every hero and villain appears here as the best version of themselves. Whedon's whip-smart scripting and economic direction serves to play to the strengths of what had worked in the MCU up until this point while amending the stuff that hadn't worked so well.

To demonstrate, we need look no further than the series of scenes immediately following the opening title card. While the prologue sequence establishes the stakes - Loki as antagonist, the Tesseract as a weapon of mass destruction, the Chitauri as an invading army waiting in the wings - once that's over there's no faffing about, launching forward with relentless pace into setting up our key players.

First up is Black Widow. This character is now hugely popular amongst film fans, with many clamoring for her to get her own solo film. And I think you could argue she has emerged as one of the most important figures in the MCU. Again, that's down to THE AVENGERS. I was sold on the awesomeness of Black Widow more on her introductory scene here than I was in the entirety of her appearance in IRON MAN 2. She still has the badass fighting skills, even moreso than before. But Whedon lets Scarlett Johansson shine more, Favreau's generic butt-kicking straight (wo)man replaced with a mischievous, calculating strategist, not above a bit of flirting and charm, but who is clearly nursing her own demons, as well as being at times overwhelmed by the sheer scale of what she's up against. One of my favourite moments in selling this comes after her first frightening encounter with The Hulk, where she's left shaking on the floor, in shock. Understandable, as no matter how well-trained an assassin and spy you are, there's no way you could be trained for that.

Speaking of Black Widow and Hulk... the next character to be (re)introduced in the film is Bruce Banner, now being played by Mark Ruffalo. For me, Ruffalo is the best cinematic Banner. While Bana and Norton played the often-thankless character too dry and morose, Ruffalo gives him warmth, wit and humanity, making him a likeable character in his own right to the point where you almost feel bad about him turning into The Hulk rather than looking at your watch waiting for it to happen. And while THE INCREDIBLE HULK sat uncomfortably tonally with the subsequent output of Marvel Studios, Whedon ensures Ruffalo's Banner slips in much more seamlessly amongst the other heroes of the MCU. On the flipside, THE AVENGERS also boasts the best cinematic Hulk: not just in terms of the most polished CGI we've seen yet for the character, but by managing to bring real diversity to the character. He's genuinely scary when he's supposed to be, but when he emerges as a hero in the final battle, he's a bona-fide scene stealer, and even offers some of the film's biggest laughs.

His first conversation with Natasha is an interesting one, and the more I rewatch the film the more it actually emerges as one of my favourite scenes. The first time I watched it, I saw it as Ruffalo injecting Banner with that usual laid-back, easygoing Ruffalo likeability, and Scarlett playing the usual cool, collected, always-one-step-ahead Natasha. But while this is what the interactions suggest on a surface level, in fact I've come to realise that Ruffalo plays Banner here as a bundle of barely-repressed rage, all clenched fists, pacing and grinding teeth, constantly one deep breath away from a freak-out. And Natasha, in fact, is terrified throughout. I mean, of course we see on first viewing how the mask slips when she draws the gun on Banner and he has her sweating, but she's actually right on the edge of grasping that gun throughout. I don't think Scarlett Johansson fully exhales once during that whole exchange, it's like she's poised and waiting for a bomb to go off in her face.

And looking at the wider film, for all I gushed about "happy, upbeat Banner" in my early commentary of the film, and the genius of casting famously easy-going Mark Ruffalo in the role, Ruffalo actually plays it pretty dark for much of it. He's come to terms with this monster inside of him, accepted it as a chronic condition he has to manage and control rather than something he can cure, but he hasn't come to grips yet with what that makes him, or quite gotten over his resentment. Most of what I'd originally assumed as dopey grins are forced grimaces through gritted teeth. I'd argue the first genuine smile he flashes in the movie comes when Stark pokes him in the side with the little electric charge to see what he'll do. And that, for me, lies at the basis of the famous Stark/Banner "Science Bros" friendship that has set Tumblr alight: every other character Banner meets before this tip-toes around him, acting very polite and deferential while delicately avoiding bringing up "The Other Guy" directly, but the fear and caution is bubbling under the surface, one "just in case" away. But with Stark, he immediately brings up The Hulk head-on, and has an earnest admiration for the entirety of who Banner is and what he could be, no fear at all.

Speaking of Stark, Iron Man does not run away with the whole film as some feared, but he does get plenty of cool stuff to do. Those familiar with both were surely confident that the pairing of Robert Downey Jr and Joss Whedon would be a dream-team, and indeed it is, with Downey Jr relishing the chance to unload Whedon's quick-fire witticisms. There wasn't much fixing needing done here, as Tony Stark is such a joy of a character that he can even elevate films that would have been pretty poor otherwise (IRON MAN 2) into enjoyable terrain. But where Whedon plays it smart here is in the characters he sets up Iron Man against, and how they interact. It builds on what IRON MAN 2 did well by giving us more lovely Stark/Pepper chemistry, here evolved from a will they/won't they to a natural, playful romantic relationship. IRON MAN 2 felt a bit glib in points because Stark's charismatic yet smarmy persona got to run roughshod over everyone, with anyone who challenged him coming across as a dull bore. But here he's set up against strong enough countering voices to highlight Stark's cooler-than-thou persona as a personality defect rather than aspirational gloss. In particular, Captain America works as a foil for Iron Man because Stark's pithy put-downs hit home as genuinely mean-spirited against the largely infallible hero, whose criticisms of Stark hold more weight. We certainly see Stark wrestle with the notion of heroism, and the idea that he's not a hero... though of course at the end of the day he proves he is. You could argue that this ultimately means Tony Stark has learned the same lesson three times in a row, but it's done with enough panache this time round you can't really begrudge it!

Captain America's best stuff here is as a foil for Iron Man, but Whedon is the first filmmaker that really gets to show us how Steve Rogers is coping as a man out of time. I do get the sense that Steve was the guy to get most content cut from the final film - apparently there was a whole subplot between him and the waitress - but we do get to see his eyes being opened to the moral murkiness of the modern world. He's not quite so wide-eyed and idealistic as he was in THE FIRST AVENGER, here he gets some steel behind him... while still showing himself as an inspirational leader even in this most different of conflicts.

Thor doesn't come into the mix until later, and he's perhaps still one of the more problematic of Marvel's headline heroes, in that Loki just feels like a more interesting character. Loki, by the way, is a joy in this film, Tom Hiddleston clearly enjoying taking the master planner of THOR and putting him against the ropes. It's an intriguing dynamic, giving us a villain who's essentially an underdog, but that's essentially what Loki is here, with much of what he does driven by desperation, self-preservation, hubris and a petty vindictiveness borne out of earlier defeat. As for Thor, Whedon plays to his strengths here by relegating the Jane Foster romance that's been the focus of the solo films to a single throwaway line of dialogue here, instead putting his strained relationship with Loki to the fore. Thor still has compassion for Loki and views him as a brother, no matter how violently that is thrown back in his face, and that's a strong strain of humanity that connects us to Thor as a character. He has an ego and an air of pretentiousness that's consistent with the Thor of his first solo film, but here it's tempered with the maturity he acquired over that film, meaning he's more nuanced, without the sense of him just having flicked a switch and transformed from arrogant lout to even-tempered man of peace.

The team is rounded out by Hawkeye. It's a shame, as it's become something of a running gag around internet culture now to single out Hawkeye as the Ringo Starr/Peter Criss of The Avengers, the one who's nobody's favourite. But though Hawkeye does spent a large part of the film as a brainwashed henchmen, I do feel like Jeremy Renner is able to redeem him in the third act by giving him plenty of moments of badassery.

I also feel like Whedon strikes the right tone with SHIELD. While they had often felt quite inconsistent and amorphous in the solo films, here they feel much more clearly defined as a presence. Samuel L Jackson's Nick Fury is more tempered than the shtick of IRON MAN 2, and he gets an arc of his own, evolving from a duplicitous figure to one who, when the chips are down, still opts for basic decency over shady "greater good" chess moves. Clark Gregg's Phil Coulson is one of the emotional core's of the film, and even Cobie Smulders gets a few cool moments as Maria Hill.

All this might leave you thinking that THE AVENGERS is a quiet character piece... and yes, I think the film's biggest strength is that Whedon puts characters and their relationships at the forefront. But of course this is a film of huge, breathtaking spectacle, packed with some glorious set-pieces. I wrote a whole review focusing on the multitude of ways the final Battle of New York is a masterclass of action cinema, so I won't go into much more detail than to say it is pure cinematic euphoria. But all the action sequences are great, each battle between characters feeling like a little joyful gift to all of us.

And you'd think it wouldn't feel like such a big deal once the novelty factor wore off, but I still get such a kick every time out of seeing these characters from different film franchises interact. Whether it's Steve Rogers and Bruce Banner meeting for the first time at the helicarrier, or Loki trading barbs with Tony Stark at Stark Tower, all these interactions are a delight. And when you see the 6 heroes of The Avengers standing in Midtown Manhattan, the camera circling around them, your heart swells. More than perhaps any other moment in superhero cinema, I felt like I was watching a comic book come to life.

Quite simply, I adore THE AVENGERS. For me, it has already reached that level of the likes of RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK, DIE HARD or GHOSTBUSTERS, the kind of film I can never get bored of, which is effortlessly rewatchable, and always makes me feel good: its characters feeling like old friends, and its best moments landing like the keynotes of a classic melody. And like those films, I find THE AVENGERS similarly immune to niggles like "The plot is pretty simple," or "There's not much depth." There doesn't need to be. This is pure cinema, the kind of experience I go to the movies hoping for. The first masterpiece produced by Marvel Studios, and still their best film.

10/10
 
And that right there is your best review yet! I am curious to read the others you did for Avengers.
 
Great review. I agree with all the sentiments you expressed. The Avengers is definitely a terrific movie. In fact, it's interesting to analyze the movie closely, as you did, and pick out all the different elements that made it so successful. What I loved was that all the characters were used so well. Each character got his or her moment to shine, and not one of them was wasted.
 
Great review. I agree with all the sentiments you expressed. The Avengers is definitely a terrific movie. In fact, it's interesting to analyze the movie closely, as you did, and pick out all the different elements that made it so successful. What I loved was that all the characters were used so well. Each character got his or her moment to shine, and not one of them was wasted.

Yeah, this is one of the best aspects of the movie for me. There's scope for just about everyone here to be someone's favourite character, everyone gets their moment.

Thanks for the comments, everyone. I have a feeling my next review might be somewhat more controversial!
 
IRON MAN 3

IRON MAN 3 is a tricky film to review. With all the other Marvel films I've reviewed lately, my opinion has been broadly in line with the general reception to the film. Of course there are some outliers and folks who disagree or feel more strongly about certain films, but broadly speaking, it seems there is a general consensus amongst movie-goers about what Marvel Studios films are in the top tier of their best efforts, and which ones aren't. But with IRON MAN 3, it's a lot more complicated. While it did huge box office and received generally strong critical reviews, amongst the comics fanbase, this is a deeply divisive film. I've talked to some people who not only dislike it, but brand it a turkey and a disgrace to superhero cinema on par with BATMAN & ROBIN, people who hate the film so much that they say Iron Man, Robert Downey Jr's performance, and the prospect of any future solo films with the character have been forever ruined for them based on its sheer awfulness. I wonder if these people saw the same film I did. Because, as I'll argue in this review, IRON MAN 3 is actually a freaking great film, and probably the most unfairly maligned in the Marvel canon. And to get into the divergence between how well this works as a film and how poorly it was received by many Iron Man fans, I'll have to talk at length about something called fan service.

Depending on who you are, you may view fan service as a great or terrible thing and attach a lot of baggage to the term, but at its most basic level, "fan service" is when the impression is created that a piece of fiction is crafted specifically with its most dedicated fans in mind. This could be a long-running TV series writing for its longtime core fanbase, or an adaptation playing to devotees of the source material. It is often brought up as something done at the expense of appealing to a wider audience, and is thus seen as bad, but it's not necessarily so. In fact, I'd argue that a huge part of the early success of Marvel Studios was built on fan service. Much of the Fox superhero output seemed to be entrenched in this embarrassment about making funny book films, with an obsessive, meddling need to arbitrarily change characters in both appearance and personality to "make them work on film," often to disastrous effect. Even the far more successful Nolan Batman films from Warner Bros made their name on "grounding" the superhero mythos into something more closely resembling the real world. But the MCU movies are made by Marvel, the same folk who make the comics, and so they didn't approach the comics source material they were adapting from as something that needed fixing. And suddenly we're getting comic-accurate costumes, shared universes, and loads of Easter eggs and little nods to the rich comic mythos. These aren't slavish translations from comics to film, but they adapt in a way that is respectful to the comics source material, and fans have really responded to that.

Then, along comes IRON MAN 3. After the still somewhat enjoyable but flimsy and complacent IRON MAN 2, replacing Jon Favreau with Shane Black was just about the best creative decision Marvel could have made. With all due respect to Favreau, who I like, Shane Black is just on another level as a filmmaker. As a writer and, increasingly, as a director, he has shown himself to be skilled and highly stylish. He gets better work out of Robert Downey Jr than anyone, and I hope they go on to forge a Scorsese/DeNiro style partnership for years to come. He injects IRON MAN 3 with a whole different kind of energy. IRON MAN 2 skewed too close to the loose, improvisational style of IRON MAN and by the end the formula was already feeling tired. So Shane Black upends that by giving us a story that's tight, structured, and - with its Christmas setting, protagonist voiceover and snarky, scene-stealing henchmen - one that feels stylistically much more like a Shane Black film than what we've come to expect from an Iron Man film. Black, like Whedon or Gunn, really puts his director's imprint on the film, and reaps the benefit from doing so. Black's trademark mastery of whip-smart dialogue is present and correct, but he really steps up as an action director too, with sequences like the attack on Stark's mansion among some of my favourite Marvel movie action set-pieces thus far. Black gives the IRON MAN franchise a shot in the arm that breaks the much-vaunted "part 3 curse" and proves a rewarding wrap on the trilogy, while also showing there's gas in the tank for plenty more diverse Iron Man films.

But the problem is, Shane Black does this while disregarding fan service almost entirely. Perhaps not entirely unreasonably, comics fans will go into an IRON MAN movie and want to see the focus be Iron Man, in his armor, being a superhero. But, almost defiantly, Black keeps Tony Stark out of the armor for much of the film, and even when he does suit up, the featured armor here is ass-ugly and regularly malfunctions because its still a prototype. And for many, this is a setback they just can't look past. They bring up the lack of Tony Stark in his Iron Man armor as if it was a terrible mistake, and not an absolutely deliberate thematic choice. When writing the script, Shane Black didn't come into this thinking, "How do I service Marvel Comics fans?" His starting point was looking at this guy, Tony Stark, as a movie character, whose story we have seen unfold over three films. Then, as a writer, Black looked at what worked about this film character, what were his most interesting aspects, and where could he be taken next? What kind of statement could be made about this character?

The result is the most nuanced performance Robert Downey Jr has given as Tony Stark yet. After essentially learning the same lesson three films in a row, here Tony Stark is faced with new struggles. He's still clearly the same guy, but one who is moving forward, evolving. The events of THE AVENGERS have left him suffering anxiety attacks, and as a result the armors that were once like protruding limbs - an extension of himself that allowed him to be more than he once was - have become cocoons for him to hide behind, enabling crutches lulling him into being something less than himself. Of course he's going to end up out of the armor for much of the film, because that's crucial to the character journey he must take to realise he doesn't need to rely on that armor. The armor isn't the hero of these films. Tony Stark is the hero. Tony Stark is Iron Man, with or without his armor. The armor is just one of many tools at his disposal that he employs in his heroics. To underline this, the film has everybody and their mother - Pepper Potts, Savin, Killian, even the President - jumping into armor that doesn't belong to them, and we have a whole sequence revolving around suits operating on their own without any pilot, but none of them are Iron Man.

In general, IRON MAN 3 really works as a character-centric film. While much of the wit and the abrasive qualities from the previous films is present and correct, I'd say characters and their interactions aren't quite so glib as they were in IRON MAN 2. Tony Stark is probably the most likeable he's been here, while still being recognisable as the magnificent bastard of the previous films. Gwyneth Paltrow continues to be highly likeable as Pepper Potts, and here relishes the chance to actually get physical and take part in some hard-hitting action. Don Cheadle's James Rhodes is better served here than in any other film too. While Rhodes too often descends into being the kill-joy straight man who has to spoil Tony's fun, in this film you can actually buy the two of them as friends, and Rhodes really gets to be a hero in his own right, even going through a smaller version of Tony's "I don't need my suit to be a hero" arc. Even Jon Favreau's Happy Hogan is better here than ever before.

Another much-derided aspect of the film is Tony Stark's "kid sidekick," Harley. I don't really have a problem with this dynamic at all, as I found Stark's dealings with the kid to be refreshingly unsentimental. Plus, in the grand scheme of things they were kept to a minimum. As a whole, I really enjoyed the entire Rose Hill sequence in how it changes up the dynamic of the film, the barren snow standing in stark contrast to the usual sun-soaked settings of these films.

But IRON MAN 3 isn't without its faults. And one false note that continues to bug me every time I watch the film is the reveal about The Mandarin. I've seen the ludicrous decision taken with this character defended by some who argue that it's fine because The Mandarin was always a lame character in the comics anyway. But I reject that notion, not just because The Mandarin actually has been used well in the comics in recent years (The "Haunted" storyline written by the Knaufs features The Mandarin and is arguably my favourite Iron Man comic story ever), but because right up until the rug is pulled out from under us, Ben Kingsley had given us a FANTASTIC interpretation of The Mandarin! Glimpsed only in menacing video broadcasts, and speaking in a guttural Southern drawl, this was a Mandarin that felt fresh and updated, and a most appropriate arch nemesis for the cinematic Iron Man we first saw as a hero for the "War on Terror" age back in 2008. He was a great villain... until he wasn't. This was one area where maybe Shane Black SHOULD have given a little fan service and respected The Mandarin's status as Iron Man's arch-villain. I remember when I first saw this film in the cinema, when that twist happened, that was it, BOOM, I was totally taken out of the movie. I sat through the rest of the film in a fog, thinking, "F*** this film." And I think that's a fog many viewers have remained in ever since: "F*** this film."

However, the more I rewatch this movie, the more I appreciate its strengths. And while no amount of rewatching makes me find the Trevor Slattery scenes any less toe-curling, I've come to acknowledge that, out of the ashes of The Mandarin's sabotage, Guy Pearce's Aldrich Killian emerges as a great antagonist, one with possibly the most inspired evil plan to come from any MCU villain thus far. And Pearce plays him with a wonderfully smug, slimy charm. Thematically, he ties in nicely to the "dark mirror image" theme of Obidiah Stane, Ivan Vanko and Justin Hammer, but thanks to the added element of Extremis brings a fresh new dynamic to the "Bad guy in a bigger robot" special effect that has replaced the actor playing the villain in the third act of the previous two IRON MAN films. I think people would appreciate Killian as a character a lot more if he was an actual comics villain, rather than practically an original creation (elevated from a brief walk-on part in the original comics "Extremis" storyline) crafted for this film. I should also add here that I love James Badge Dale's Savin, he manages to steal just about every scene he's in.

The first IRON MAN was a little film that could, and IRON MAN 2 enjoyed a bigger budget but chose to pretty much ape the first film's minimalist aesthetic rather than expand in scope. IRON MAN 3, however, settles in with true post-AVENGERS gravitas as the first Marvel solo film that swaggers out of the gate and proclaims, "I'm one of the biggest films of the year." It remains one of Marvel's most stylistically, thematically bold films, and in my opinion, up there with the best of the Marvel Studios canon. In terms of the IRON MAN trilogy, the historical significance and how fresh and new it felt at the time probably means the first IRON MAN still edges by as my favourite, but talking objectively, I'd venture to say IRON MAN 3 is the best film of the trilogy.

8/10
 
Why is this the first time I have seen this thread? Great job writing these reviews Keyser. I just read every one and they were outstanding! You really hit on how I feel about all of them. Can't wait to hear your thoughts on Thor TDW and GOTG. Keep it up man!!!!!
 
Another genuinely great review KS! Can't wait to read your thoughts on TDW.
 
Nice review, Keyser! I love Iron Man 3 a lot. The focus on Tony really benefited him as a character and gave his story arc new energy and fun. And as you said, the movie gives great moments for Pepper, Rhodey and Happy.

And I'll just say I LOVED Ben Kingsley as the Mandarin. Despite the twist, he gave one of the most memorable villain performances ever. And as you said, the Mandarin in the comics is NOT lame -- Kingsley's pre-twist performances show why the Mandarin is a neat villain. At the same time, while I understand some fans' disappointment over the twist, I actually found it genuinely clever and thought it fit well into the movie's plot. It was also very amusing to see Kingsley portraying two very different personalities in one movie. At the very least, the twist hasn't prevented most viewers I know from praising Kingsley's eerie Mandarin persona.

I liked Guy Pearce's performance a lot too. He was very oily, and he was sort of a cross between the comic-book Aldrich Killian and the Scientist Supreme of AIM (he's the founder of AIM in the movie). I liked Kingsley most of all, but Pearce was great too.

Once again, excellent review. I love hearing your thoughts.
 
Fantastic review. I'm an unashamed IM3 defender, I think it's in the upper-echelon of Marvel's films as a whole, and you hit the nail on the head when you speak about how tight and character driven the story is. It's definitely a bold film.
But I do disagree with your conclusion, I think Iron Man is actually the best of the trilogy but Iron Man 3 probably takes the place as my favorite.
 
IRON MAN 3

IRON MAN 3 is a tricky film to review. With all the other Marvel films I've reviewed lately, my opinion has been broadly in line with the general reception to the film. Of course there are some outliers and folks who disagree or feel more strongly about certain films, but broadly speaking, it seems there is a general consensus amongst movie-goers about what Marvel Studios films are in the top tier of their best efforts, and which ones aren't. But with IRON MAN 3, it's a lot more complicated. While it did huge box office and received generally strong critical reviews, amongst the comics fanbase, this is a deeply divisive film. I've talked to some people who not only dislike it, but brand it a turkey and a disgrace to superhero cinema on par with BATMAN & ROBIN, people who hate the film so much that they say Iron Man, Robert Downey Jr's performance, and the prospect of any future solo films with the character have been forever ruined for them based on its sheer awfulness. I wonder if these people saw the same film I did. Because, as I'll argue in this review, IRON MAN 3 is actually a freaking great film, and probably the most unfairly maligned in the Marvel canon. And to get into the divergence between how well this works as a film and how poorly it was received by many Iron Man fans, I'll have to talk at length about something called fan service.

Depending on who you are, you may view fan service as a great or terrible thing and attach a lot of baggage to the term, but at its most basic level, "fan service" is when the impression is created that a piece of fiction is crafted specifically with its most dedicated fans in mind. This could be a long-running TV series writing for its longtime core fanbase, or an adaptation playing to devotees of the source material. It is often brought up as something done at the expense of appealing to a wider audience, and is thus seen as bad, but it's not necessarily so. In fact, I'd argue that a huge part of the early success of Marvel Studios was built on fan service. Much of the Fox superhero output seemed to be entrenched in this embarrassment about making funny book films, with an obsessive, meddling need to arbitrarily change characters in both appearance and personality to "make them work on film," often to disastrous effect. Even the far more successful Nolan Batman films from Warner Bros made their name on "grounding" the superhero mythos into something more closely resembling the real world. But the MCU movies are made by Marvel, the same folk who make the comics, and so they didn't approach the comics source material they were adapting from as something that needed fixing. And suddenly we're getting comic-accurate costumes, shared universes, and loads of Easter eggs and little nods to the rich comic mythos. These aren't slavish translations from comics to film, but they adapt in a way that is respectful to the comics source material, and fans have really responded to that.

Then, along comes IRON MAN 3. After the still somewhat enjoyable but flimsy and complacent IRON MAN 2, replacing Jon Favreau with Shane Black was just about the best creative decision Marvel could have made. With all due respect to Favreau, who I like, Shane Black is just on another level as a filmmaker. As a writer and, increasingly, as a director, he has shown himself to be skilled and highly stylish. He gets better work out of Robert Downey Jr than anyone, and I hope they go on to forge a Scorsese/DeNiro style partnership for years to come. He injects IRON MAN 3 with a whole different kind of energy. IRON MAN 2 skewed too close to the loose, improvisational style of IRON MAN and by the end the formula was already feeling tired. So Shane Black upends that by giving us a story that's tight, structured, and - with its Christmas setting, protagonist voiceover and snarky, scene-stealing henchmen - one that feels stylistically much more like a Shane Black film than what we've come to expect from an Iron Man film. Black, like Whedon or Gunn, really puts his director's imprint on the film, and reaps the benefit from doing so. Black's trademark mastery of whip-smart dialogue is present and correct, but he really steps up as an action director too, with sequences like the attack on Stark's mansion among some of my favourite Marvel movie action set-pieces thus far. Black gives the IRON MAN franchise a shot in the arm that breaks the much-vaunted "part 3 curse" and proves a rewarding wrap on the trilogy, while also showing there's gas in the tank for plenty more diverse Iron Man films.

But the problem is, Shane Black does this while disregarding fan service almost entirely. Perhaps not entirely unreasonably, comics fans will go into an IRON MAN movie and want to see the focus be Iron Man, in his armor, being a superhero. But, almost defiantly, Black keeps Tony Stark out of the armor for much of the film, and even when he does suit up, the featured armor here is ass-ugly and regularly malfunctions because its still a prototype. And for many, this is a setback they just can't look past. They bring up the lack of Tony Stark in his Iron Man armor as if it was a terrible mistake, and not an absolutely deliberate thematic choice. When writing the script, Shane Black didn't come into this thinking, "How do I service Marvel Comics fans?" His starting point was looking at this guy, Tony Stark, as a movie character, whose story we have seen unfold over three films. Then, as a writer, Black looked at what worked about this film character, what were his most interesting aspects, and where could he be taken next? What kind of statement could be made about this character?

The result is the most nuanced performance Robert Downey Jr has given as Tony Stark yet. After essentially learning the same lesson three films in a row, here Tony Stark is faced with new struggles. He's still clearly the same guy, but one who is moving forward, evolving. The events of THE AVENGERS have left him suffering anxiety attacks, and as a result the armors that were once like protruding limbs - an extension of himself that allowed him to be more than he once was - have become cocoons for him to hide behind, enabling crutches lulling him into being something less than himself. Of course he's going to end up out of the armor for much of the film, because that's crucial to the character journey he must take to realise he doesn't need to rely on that armor. The armor isn't the hero of these films. Tony Stark is the hero. Tony Stark is Iron Man, with or without his armor. The armor is just one of many tools at his disposal that he employs in his heroics. To underline this, the film has everybody and their mother - Pepper Potts, Savin, Killian, even the President - jumping into armor that doesn't belong to them, and we have a whole sequence revolving around suits operating on their own without any pilot, but none of them are Iron Man.

In general, IRON MAN 3 really works as a character-centric film. While much of the wit and the abrasive qualities from the previous films is present and correct, I'd say characters and their interactions aren't quite so glib as they were in IRON MAN 2. Tony Stark is probably the most likeable he's been here, while still being recognisable as the magnificent bastard of the previous films. Gwyneth Paltrow continues to be highly likeable as Pepper Potts, and here relishes the chance to actually get physical and take part in some hard-hitting action. Don Cheadle's James Rhodes is better served here than in any other film too. While Rhodes too often descends into being the kill-joy straight man who has to spoil Tony's fun, in this film you can actually buy the two of them as friends, and Rhodes really gets to be a hero in his own right, even going through a smaller version of Tony's "I don't need my suit to be a hero" arc. Even Jon Favreau's Happy Hogan is better here than ever before.

Another much-derided aspect of the film is Tony Stark's "kid sidekick," Harley. I don't really have a problem with this dynamic at all, as I found Stark's dealings with the kid to be refreshingly unsentimental. Plus, in the grand scheme of things they were kept to a minimum. As a whole, I really enjoyed the entire Rose Hill sequence in how it changes up the dynamic of the film, the barren snow standing in stark contrast to the usual sun-soaked settings of these films.

But IRON MAN 3 isn't without its faults. And one false note that continues to bug me every time I watch the film is the reveal about The Mandarin. I've seen the ludicrous decision taken with this character defended by some who argue that it's fine because The Mandarin was always a lame character in the comics anyway. But I reject that notion, not just because The Mandarin actually has been used well in the comics in recent years (The "Haunted" storyline written by the Knaufs features The Mandarin and is arguably my favourite Iron Man comic story ever), but because right up until the rug is pulled out from under us, Ben Kingsley had given us a FANTASTIC interpretation of The Mandarin! Glimpsed only in menacing video broadcasts, and speaking in a guttural Southern drawl, this was a Mandarin that felt fresh and updated, and a most appropriate arch nemesis for the cinematic Iron Man we first saw as a hero for the "War on Terror" age back in 2008. He was a great villain... until he wasn't. This was one area where maybe Shane Black SHOULD have given a little fan service and respected The Mandarin's status as Iron Man's arch-villain. I remember when I first saw this film in the cinema, when that twist happened, that was it, BOOM, I was totally taken out of the movie. I sat through the rest of the film in a fog, thinking, "F*** this film." And I think that's a fog many viewers have remained in ever since: "F*** this film."

However, the more I rewatch this movie, the more I appreciate its strengths. And while no amount of rewatching makes me find the Trevor Slattery scenes any less toe-curling, I've come to acknowledge that, out of the ashes of The Mandarin's sabotage, Guy Pearce's Aldrich Killian emerges as a great antagonist, one with possibly the most inspired evil plan to come from any MCU villain thus far. And Pearce plays him with a wonderfully smug, slimy charm. Thematically, he ties in nicely to the "dark mirror image" theme of Obidiah Stane, Ivan Vanko and Justin Hammer, but thanks to the added element of Extremis brings a fresh new dynamic to the "Bad guy in a bigger robot" special effect that has replaced the actor playing the villain in the third act of the previous two IRON MAN films. I think people would appreciate Killian as a character a lot more if he was an actual comics villain, rather than practically an original creation (elevated from a brief walk-on part in the original comics "Extremis" storyline) crafted for this film. I should also add here that I love James Badge Dale's Savin, he manages to steal just about every scene he's in.

The first IRON MAN was a little film that could, and IRON MAN 2 enjoyed a bigger budget but chose to pretty much ape the first film's minimalist aesthetic rather than expand in scope. IRON MAN 3, however, settles in with true post-AVENGERS gravitas as the first Marvel solo film that swaggers out of the gate and proclaims, "I'm one of the biggest films of the year." It remains one of Marvel's most stylistically, thematically bold films, and in my opinion, up there with the best of the Marvel Studios canon. In terms of the IRON MAN trilogy, the historical significance and how fresh and new it felt at the time probably means the first IRON MAN still edges by as my favourite, but talking objectively, I'd venture to say IRON MAN 3 is the best film of the trilogy.

8/10
Great review as always. While I don't agree with you on the Mandarin Twist (I think it was the greatest and boldest decision the MCU has to offer so far and I enjoy every seond of Trevor), the rest is pretty spot on.
 
Thanks for all the comments, guys! I was bracing myself for lots of thread unsubscriptions and people telling me I've lost my marbles, based on much of the reaction to IRON MAN 3 on these boards. So it's a pleasant surprise to find everyone so far has broadly agreed with my assessment of the film!
 
I think the hate for IM3 is overstated to be honest.
 
Yeah Incredible Hulk, IM2 and DW all tend to get a raw deal but that's only when Fox, Sony and WB supporters are desperate for a legit argument. But regardless of what anyone says, IH is one of my favorite CBM's. Thor2 and IM2 weren't perfect but I'm resistant to the idea that either of them are par with SM3, Ghost Rider, GL, Origins or Elektra. Again people cheat while defending lesser studios by low balling the quality of these films.

IM3 on the other hand is one MCU film I just can't defend. Simply put I hated it. 4 out 10 at best. Even w/o the Mandarin screw up the whole Killian angle was so reminiscent to Syndrome that Marvel should've just borrowed him from Pixar and it would've been a vast improvement on an otherwise lazy "Micheal Bay esk" story. (Admit it, the Ironman drones at the end folded easier than aluminum foil at the end)

But since we're talking 1 rotten egg out of 11. The MCU's overall score is a B+ for me which no other studio making MCU's comes close to.
 
I think the hate for IM3 is overstated to be honest.
Very much so. Head and shoulders above the second film (what really happened in that movie after Monaco, anyway?), and had the best character arc for the protagonist in the series thus far.
 

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