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Marvel Studios' X-Men: The Roster

Discussion in 'MCU X-Men' started by psylockolussus, Sep 10, 2022.

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Who do you want? X

  1. The Wolverine

  2. The Professor

  3. Jean Grey

  4. Cyclops

  5. Storm

  6. Colossus

  7. Iceman

  8. Angel

  9. Beast

  10. Nightcrawler

  11. Banshee

  12. Sunfire

  13. Shadowcat

  14. Thunderbird

  15. Havok

  16. Polaris

  17. Dazzler

  18. Rogue

  19. Psylocke

  20. Marrow

  21. Jubilee

  22. Cecilia Reyes

  23. Emma Frost

  24. Sage

  25. Darwin

  26. Bishop

  27. Forge

  28. Gambit

  29. Monet

  30. Other

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    Who do you want and why?

    Psylocke because she's my favorite!
    Cyclops
    Storm
    Rogue, its been so long
    Gambit, way over due as a X-Man
    Angel, finally as a X-Man
    Iceman
    Polaris
    Cecilia Reyes, resident doctor
     
  2. Boom I got nothin'

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    I'm a 90's kid.

    Angel
    Banshee
    Beast
    Bishop
    Blink
    Colossus
    Cyclops
    Dazzler
    Emma Frost
    Forge
    Gambit
    Havok
    Iceman
    Jean Grey
    Jubilee
    Kitty Pryde
    Nightcrawler
    Polaris
    Professor X
    Psylocke
    Rogue
    Storm
    Sunspot
    Warpath
    Wolverine
     
  3. Duran Man The Seventh Stranger

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    Original 5 or

    Cyclops
    Marvel Girl
    Beast
    Storm
    Angel
    Polaris
    Iceman
     
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    Eh I have no interest in seeing Kwannon.


    Just use Psylocke/Betsy and call it a day.
     
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  5. Marvel united Omega level Mutant

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    I'm an old soul

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    I'm all for a modernized version of Lee/Kirby's original X-Men team.

    I think the comics have laid the groundwork nicely for such a reimagining
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    The first movie can't have that amount of X-Men, can they?
     
  7. Dark Raven It's not about what you deserve...

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    Definitely not. They need 10 times that amount! :o
     
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    And I was called out of asking for much for having 10 X-Men in Marvel Studios' X-Men. :o
     
  9. Silvermoth Krakoan native

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    nah all that body swapping stuff is very ick these days as well as explaining that she’s actually a white woman in an Asian woman’s body. Plus kwannon deserves her own identity and space especially in a franchise about the importance of diversity and inclusion.

    of course we can have Betsy as well in her own identity. Two great characters instead of one!
     
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    Honestly, if we remove the body swap storyline, Revanche is basically just Psylocke 2.0, like a literal clone of Psylocke.

    I just don't know how could they differentiate the two, unless they make Betsy Braddock caucasian from the get go and iirc, Revanche isn't a psychic.
     
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    They became a lot more like each other after the body swap, so I'd look into what made them distinct before.
    I'd have Betsy as half-Japanese English and tie her to the Braddock family and Otherworld which would differentiate her from Kwannon who has no relation to those things but instead has ties to Japanese crimelords and The Hand. Originally Betsy had more varied and powerful psionic abilities (psionic blasts, telekinesis, precognition) so I would keep it so that Betsy has those while Kwannon doesn't. On the other hand, originally Kwannon was the one who was more skilled in combat and more athletic, so I'd make it so Kwannon has that over Betsy. I'd make it so that Kwannon uses a Katana while Betsy either uses only her psionic knives or something closer to her current Starlight Sword which is a more English mythology inspired sword. I'd also consider giving Kwannon access to the Crimson Dawn eventually, giving her shadow teleportation and enhanced physiology, which I think would work better to supplement Kwannon than Betsy. Finally, I would introduce Kwannon significantly later. It's definitely true that to some extent Kwannon is Psylocke 2.0, so I would make Kwannon kind of like what Kate Bishop has been to Clint. Make a Psylocke "solo" project towards the latter part of the original actress for Betsy's time in the MCU which introduces Kwannon as a secondary protagonist. They can be in the MCU together for a little bit before the original actress for Betsy quits and we can still have a Psylocke by keeping Kwannon. I'd also make sure to give them distinct personality traits, similar to how Sam is clearly different in personality from Steve, Yelena is clearly different from Natasha, Kate is clearly different from Clint, etc.
     
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    The current comiX just made Kwannon a total Psylocke 2.0. From what I've looked recently, Kwannon from retrieving her original body, she just absorbed the mutant powers of the original Psylocke. Like telepathy, psychic knife and if you haven't been reading the current comiX, and see the current Psylocke in the comiX, you'd be confused that it isn't Betsy Braddock. Kwannon also took the codename Psylocke and iconic bathing suit costume. She has no own identity now imo.

    Revanche in the 90s looked more diXtinct with the curly hair and covered up costume.

    Imo, instead adapting the both of them, just go with the classic Psylocke especially how underrepresented Betsy is outside of the comiX and videogames. There's also other plenty more interesting X-Women out there aside from Revanche like Marrow, Cecilia, Sage, Monet, Polaris, Dazzler, Armor that haven't been portrayed or portrayed accurately in the big screen.
     
  13. SirStrangefolk Champion of Life

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    I agree that the comics have made them too much alike at times but that doesn't mean the movies have to follow suit. Kwannon was always a telepath btw, even before the original bodyswap. I just accidentally wrote "telepathy" instead of "telekinesis". And even Betsy's katana use and martial arts skills all came from Kwannon during the original swap.

    But she looked that way with the curly hair because it's what Betsy looked like originally, so I wouldn't say it's very distinct. That[​IMG] 's literally Betsy's curly hair.
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    I think the issue is that there isn't really 1 "classic" psylocke. There is the original Betsy-Psylocke, which I guess is the most "classic" you can get (for the "Psylocke" identity anyway, Betsy had already been Captain Britain before then):
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    But the Psylocke that's probably the most iconic is the '90s one where Betsy was reimagined as being a different race, having different skills, different personality, etc. which was revealed/retconned a few years later to be her in Kwannon's body, using Kwannon's katana skills, some part of their personalities having merged, etc.
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    I'd say introduce a Betsy Braddock who is half-Otherworlder and lives with her brother Brian at the Braddock Manor in England. Upon her mutation she gets violet hair and strong psionic powers. She fights using psi-knives and psionic blasts and when she uses these psychic energy shaped like butterfly wings shows around her face. She gets a dark blue costume that shows off her arms and legs.

    Eventually, after we've had this Psylocke in the MCU for potentially 7-10 years she gets a solo project where she encounters a Japanese woman named Kwannon. Kwannon is an assassin for the Hand or some Japanese crime syndicate. Her personality is at least initially colder and more volatile than Betsy. Her hair is much darker than Betsy's being almost black, but still with some purple sheen to it. Kwannon also has psionic powers though they are significantly weaker and less versatile than Betsy's. At the same time, she is much more skilled in combat and unlike Betsy she doesn't create psionic knives, but instead guides psionic power into a katana she possesses (kind of like how Colleen Wing guided Iron Fist powers into a katana at the end of Iron Fist S2). She also doesn't get the butterfly wings-like energy. Her costume is purple rather than blue, has more belts, and covers her entire body. She obtains the Crimson Dawn, which appears as a red marking over her left eye, and grants her shadow teleportation (her own unique ability that Betsy doesn't have) and enhanced physiology (which complements her already superior physical combat skills).

    I'd love to see all of those. I don't see how keeping the door open to introducing Kwannon at some point would prevent any of those from getting the spotlight.
     
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    The classic Psylocke is the one we always see in videogames, comiX, cosplays - thats Betsy Braddock. Kwannon is not even a b-tier x-Woman and even when she has been resurrected, if im not mistaken, she just appeared in a splinter team, Hellions.

    If we are going to pick someone obscure, Cecilia, Sage, Marrow are there. I don't want to see a carbon copy of someone, when that someone hasn't even been properly utilized in the movies.
     
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    I WANT Cyclops Wolverine Storm JeanGrey Beast Iceman Jubilee Colossus Kitty Gambit Rogue Angel Psylocke
    to be main x-men from 616 MCU (former members, before snap)

    Then, some leave, Emma Frost replaces Jean Grey because shes missing
    then many others recruits are added and form x-fractions (sub-groups)

    But my fanfic MCU x-men team consists of Cyclops Wolverine Storm Emma Iceman Jubilee Gambit Rogue Angel Psylocke for 1st movie
    Colossus Kitty Beast are cameos, JeanGrey is lost, Emma Frost is recruited
    In sequels we can add Havok, Polaris, X-23, ...
     
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    The more I think it should be a miX of eXpected, not eXpected and mutants that should be part of the X-Men but people wouldn't eXpect to be in the first film.

    eXpected - Cyclops, Storm, Iceman, Rogue
    uneXpected - Polaris, Bishop, Jubilee, Sunfire, Forge, Dazzler, Banshee, Cecilia
    a little bit of both - Psylocke, Gambit, Angel

    The ones should be reserved for the sequels are Jean Grey, Beast, Nightcrawler and the Wolverine.
     
  17. Lily Adler Politically Delicious (she/her)

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    Keep the core 4: Wolverine, Storm, Jean, and Cyclops with Beast and Prof. X for the first film. Maybe use Jubilee or Kitty for the character used to introduce them? :hmm
     
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    I'm fine with seeing all of those eXcept for X-23.

    I don't want to see any clones or another version of someone else: Prestige, X-23, Daken, Honey Badger, Revanche, Joseph and the sons of the X-Men like Cable and X-Man.
     
  19. Mutant 77 Supreme Keeper of the X-Men Movie Continuity

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    I want the most popular X-Men roster on-screen, so I'm talking about:

    Cyclops
    Wolverine
    Storm
    Colossus
    Nightcrawler
    Banshee
    Phoenix

    Honorary member: Beast
     
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    Banshee would be different but eXciting.
     
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    Might be controversial, but I hope Jean Grey isn't included in the initial roster. That way, they aren't tempted to go anywhere near Dark Phoenix and Cyclops might get some development of his own. Either that or just start with Jean & Scott as a couple and give that zero plot focus.
     
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    I don't want to see Jean in Marvel Studios' X-Men either.

    Save her for Marvel Studios' X-Men II.
     
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