Marvel's losing its edge and DC's getting its back

[CConn]

Uhhh no. Go back and comprehend my post. I was actually pointing out how ridiculous it is to judge the outcome of a movie based upon a very small clip of a movie and/or rumors about a movie.

The Hulk comparisons were Excel's. I used BB to point out how easy it would be to make the same comparison based upon little to no information about a movie.

Then why didn't you say that when I first challenged you on it. You could have ended it right there...but you didn't. Methinks you actually believe it.

 

[redlion2]

Then why didn't you say that when I first challenged you on it. You could have ended it right there...but you didn't. Methinks you actually believe it.

Believe what you will, but I was pointing out the flaws in Excel's debate. Yes, I could have said that when first "challenged" and it would have probably ended it but you didn't have to challenge me at all and it wouldn't have started. I was addressing Excel's points.

I thought you and I already had an understanding. You had one opinion and I had a different one.

 

[Kmack]

Obviously, time and fate are the only two factors that can decide the outcome of that rivalry. We're all just giving our opinions. If you're somehow too "neutral" to take this thread in the spirit in which it was started.....for fun, then why bother posting in it?

Who among us is "fit" to decide anything beyond the daily activities of our own lives? There's no cosmic game of chance here, where the "winner" of this debate decides the fate of the universe. There are no winners and losers, just people sharing their opinions. Last time I checked, that's what this site is here for.

Bravo!

 

[GLREBORN]

Catwoman is helping DC get back on track?


Hardly.

 

[CConn]

I thought you and I already had an understanding. You had one opinion and I had a different one.

So? That doesn't me we can't continue arguing for until we turn blue in the face.

Honestly, I'm just fed up with the whole BB/Hulk comparison. Too many people have been doing it in the Batboards...

Sorry if I took it out on you.

 

[Obsidian]

This has gone from a "Over Excited DC Fan makes exagerated statements" thread to a "Marvel Zombies try to do damage control with their biased statements" thread

I have opened Pandora's Box.

I have made a terrible mistake.

My car was almost stolen.

 

[redlion2]

So? That doesn't me we can't continue arguing for until we turn blue in the face.

Honestly, I'm just fed up with the whole BB/Hulk comparison. Too many people have been doing it in the Batboards...

Sorry if I took it out on you.

Hey CConn, we're still cool and as an FF fan I know how you feel

No harm done.

 

[MightyMouse11]

Marvel will never fall baby!
never i say never!

 

[MightyMouse11]

ok like every board i ever join nobody talks to me i mean its getting old

 

[MightyMouse11]

ok is anybody actually here cuz ive been feeling like ive been talking to my self like the whole time ive been on?

 

[Henry Hill]

Yes, people are here but you're last 3 posts have been stupid to say the least.

 

[Psycho Hulk]

Flash and Green Lantern;This is the truth,Warner/Dc Movies=Superman & Batman,sorry but no place for a Flash or Green Lantern movie,why?;you see the movie news;"Batman have a new movie","Superman have a new casting","Batman vs Superman could be a movie",Where is Justice League Movie Project?,Warner have all superfriends in same place,why Batman have a director only for him?,hey what person was the original director of THE X-MEN?,yep that Mercenary known as Bryan Singer,he was a director of a group of Superheroes,why Singer is not a director for a Justice League The Movie?,because only characters who really are important for Warner are;"The Dc Divas";Batman & Superman.Flash Movie or Green Lantern Movie are only rumours created by fans on Internet.

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Errr, the Flash movie was actually announced in a magazine. I think it was DreamWatcher or whatever the magazine is called. Ryan Reynolds (Blade:Trinity) is supposedly playing the part of the Flash. Whether the Magazines are telling lies, I dunno, but I do hope they make it.

Also, I liked the Original Flash Series...

 

[Psycho Hulk]

I know this isn't much of anything...but I think Marvel could have a really bright future.

If Hulk 2 sucks...I will literally smash hollywood myself. I mean, I really did like the first Hulk movie. Apart of it was my Hulk Fandom, but I enjoyed the FX and the actors. I mean, I didn't like some part of the movie and stuff, but that didn't make it a crappy movie at all. It was well put together though and they did a really good job on making the Hulk come to life, I mean come on now...it's not easy making a 12 foot green giant...walking around in broad day light. Could they have done some more fine tuning. Sure...but thats whats the sequels all about. They have the character/story set up and they have the technology...they can have so much action in this sequel, good villians and good visuals. I think Marvel should be fine with HULK 2.

I may be the only person besides a few of you in this board. But I am really looking forward to seeing the FF4 movie. I don't care if people think it looks stupid or not. I think it looks pretty cool and I can't wait to see it. From what I heard, they even spent extra money on the final battle and ending to make it even better. Thats some love right there for this movie. The actors are all pretty well known and are good actors. I wish the thing was a little bit more rockier but Hey, I can live with what I get. I see this movie to do Marvel Well...

Spider-Man 3 I know a lot of people think this movie is probably either going to be great or suck big...I still think it will surprise people and still be better then the Original Spiderman. I trust in Raimi and I believe his vision and love for the character will come together for the final product. I mean, he did a great job with Spider-Man 2...If he doesn't fix whats not broken and makes tweeks on what need them...Spider Man will be one of the best Trilogies ever...

X-men 3 I honest Don't know much about this movie. So I don't know whats exactly going on with all of this. Hell, I am not even sure it's the same director. From what I hears its someone different. I wouldn't mind seeing someone elses perspective of the film. Granted X-men and X-men 2 were fine films, but I still saw a lot of improvements that could of been made. Maybe a new director and Writer will make those happen. With out spoiling the movies/tone/chracters...

Punisher: I really was looking forward to this movie being great. But it honestly disappointed me in many ways. I just didn't always feel I was watching the punisher, I mean if I didn't see the Skull Symbol I would of been lost. It had some cool moments...but nothing that I would write home about. a new writer and director could probably save this one if they were to make a sequel.

DareDevil: Err, I may be the only loser in here who actually liked this movie. I could careless if Ben Affleck was DareDevil. I didn't even think about that while watching the movie. I enjoyed the movie. I am not a colin farrell fan, so I didn't like him to much as Bullseye..but I can't see why someone would hate this movie...Granted it had some cheesy scenes, but it was a fun flick none the less...a Sequel, I would definately go see...Just a tad bit more darker and a better casting for a villian(bullseye not KingPin)...and I am happy.

Elektra: I just watched the movie today. ( I work at BlockBuster so I can see everything in advanced before release)...and I kinda liked it too. I liked Jennifer Garner as Elektra. Story was a little weak at times and I sometimes cause myself wishing for my action. But I liked the Villlians. I only wish for more Ninja fight scenes and well, fight scenes. They were to short and simplistic for me. If they do a sequel, they should concentrate more on Her. I would love to see a darker/edgier/more violent Elektra sequel.

IMHO, I believe these movies could of all been better, even Great. For films like DareDevil and Elektra, more darker and violent tones would of served them well. It's great to have fun with the movies and scenes, but with certain characters you just need to stick to their darker stories. Make them more serious with the occasional joke. I still feel like comic movies are overly campy or cheesy in some scenes or areas. Directors and actors care to much about pleasing the world instead of sticking to whats true to the fans, story, and characters. I see a very bright future for the hopefully darker moods of Marvel(and when I mean darker, I don't mean give them black leather outfits like X-men). I just mean, more grittier. Hell, I thought Spider-Man 2 was darker then Punisher...

anyways, this is my rambling, hope I didn't lose anyone or piss anyone off...its just my thoughts.

 

[brainchild81]

Saw Batman Begins on Wed. Wasn't bad, but the fights were very badly shot.

 

[brainchild81]

Saw X3 and didn't like it. Supes may turn out to be better be better than X3 because X3 sets the bar reeeeeeeeal low.

 

[brainchild81]

True...but what if all the Marvel movies are as bad as Elektra?
Seriously, man...you are so damn wrong about Superman. That movie will have to be pretty damn bad not to make at least 250 million.

Glad to see neither of us is banned yet. Looks like I was right about Supes. Kinda looks like we both were. X-Men3(The Wolverine show 3) made me angry and Supes bored me. Not a good year for comic films so far.

 

[Erzengel]

Well now it looks like both Marvel and DC are losing it's edge. Marvel is essentially a one trick pony with Spider-Man and if Dark Knight is succesful that's pretty much DC's well.

 

[JackBauer]

Well now it looks like both Marvel and DC are losing it's edge. Marvel is essentially a one trick pony with Spider-Man and if Dark Knight is succesful that's pretty much DC's well.

I'd say Marvel is ahead by a nose. they haven't tried to make one of their biggest characters into a comedy yet.

 

[Chris Wallace]

Oh, yeah, Erzengel-because Spider-Man is the ONLY successful movie from Marvel. Even the much-lambasted FF & X3 sold well. Try another one.
And say what you will about X3; it still outsold Superman.

 

[KenK]

Well now it looks like both Marvel and DC are losing it's edge. Marvel is essentially a one trick pony with Spider-Man and if Dark Knight is succesful that's pretty much DC's well.

Why do people insist on ignoring Blade? To say nothing of the first two X-Men films?

Their respective third installments may have left much to be desired, but the first and second films of both franchises were great.

 

[Erzengel]

What else aside from Dark Knight does DC have coming out?

 

[Erzengel]

Oh, yeah, Erzengel-because Spider-Man is the ONLY successful movie from Marvel. Even the much-lambasted FF & X3 sold well. Try another one.
And say what you will about X3; it still outsold Superman.

Just so you know Chris Wallace. I like both Marvel and DC movies. Spider-Man 2 is my favorite actually with Batman Begins a distant second.

If you want to argue semantics with me, yes X3 did very well. But in my opinion, it's the ****ty sister of X1 and X2 and I was disapointed with it. Fox with Marvel has started to turn into Slappy Studios and seem to just slap things together to get them out before the next summer. X3 seemed rushed and so does FF2 which hasn't even started to film yet.

And honestly you can't call FF a franchise yet because it has 1 movie released.

So don't go into I'm bashing Marvel, I must be a DC fan speal because honestly I'm critical about both of them.

 

[Erzengel]

Why do people insist on ignoring Blade? To say nothing of the first two X-Men films?

Their respective third installments may have left much to be desired, but the first and second films of both franchises were great.

Well Blade is done although you can count the TV series. I haven't watched it though. Blades 1 and 2 were really good but Blade Trinity well see my previous post about X3.

 

[brainchild81]

Why do people insist on ignoring Blade? To say nothing of the first two X-Men films?

Their respective third installments may have left much to be desired, but the first and second films of both franchises were great.

Ditto for the most part. X-Men 1 was OK. X2 was awesome

Oh, yeah, Erzengel-because Spider-Man is the ONLY successful movie from Marvel. Even the much-lambasted FF & X3 sold well. Try another one.
And say what you will about X3; it still outsold Superman.

Yeah. Arad was right when he said X3 would have a bigger audience than Supes.

 

[Chris Wallace]

Well Blade is done although you can count the TV series. I haven't watched it though. Blades 1 and 2 were really good but Blade Trinity well see my previous post about X3.

But you called Marvel a one-trick pony. In 28 years DC has had 16 films in wide release. 10 of those were Batman & Superman. 1 was Steel, (A comic offshoot of Superman) 1 was Supergirl, (A Superman spinoff) 2 were Swamp Thing, 1 was Constantine & the other was V For Vendetta. At least Marvel diversifies rather than just putting everything on their 2 big guns, & they have more hits than misses.