Michael Giacchino to score 'Rogue One'

Discussion in 'Rogue One: A Star Wars Story' started by mclay18, Jan 17, 2016.

  1. Spider-Gnome Walloping Web-Snappers!

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    That's Giacchino's trademark! Go back and rewatch LOST. :cwink:

    I think Giacchino did a good job, considering the compressed schedule he had to work with. He did some neat stuff, like using the original Vader/Imperial theme from the original film (1977) when we first meet Vader and using the Death Star flourish also from the original film.
     
  2. David H. We’re not owed anything.

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    Gonna be honest, I wish Alexandre Desplat stayed. I like Giacchino, for sure, but I feel we could have gotten something new with Desplat instead of sticking so close to Williams' cues.

    Imagine something like this playing on the team's ride to Scarif:

    [YT]https://youtu.be/4-2AM8FuI_w[/YT]

    (https://youtu.be/4-2AM8FuI_w)
     
  3. Asteroid-Man Registered

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    I was a little bit disappointed with his original pieces in this. Your Father Would be Proud was great, but it sounds too generic to me, personally. Like "sad-song #2937"

    His renditions and reworkings of the classics were great though! Especially Krennic's Aspirations and Hope. Holy ****, was Hope amazing.

    Ripoffs of pre-existing pieces, like when a filmmaker wants a specific song but they can't afford it so they make the composer make something that's as legally different as it needs to be. In this case, I think it was just Giacchino being too much of a fanboy to Williams. To give an example, Guardians of the Whills sound ****ing amazing, but that's largely in part because it's a mix of Across the Stars and the Force Theme.

    Overall, I did enjoy it, but it wasn't as refreshing and original as each time Williams tackles a new one.
     
  4. BatLobster Trailer Timewarper

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    I kind of agree. On one hand I like the attempt to keep the music of the spinoffs in line with the rest of the music stylistically, but on the other hand I think going "all the way" in terms of giving this a different tone could've paid off nicely. Of course you could still nest in a few classic cues with this approach too, not sure if Desplat was doing that or not.
     
  5. DKDetective Elementary, Dear Robin

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    I thought it was solid and Star Warszy in style, which worked well. "Hope" is my favourite piece, but that is probably because it is one of the pieces that most directly apes Williams' musical language.

    People may think I am crazy when I say this, but one of the things that I think that separates Williams' OT scores (and I guess the rest of his peak 70-80s work) from the rest is the arrangements (if that is the right term?).

    His choice of different classically symphonic instruments for different parts added so much texture to the original scores. For instance, go back and listen to the original TESB version of The Imperial March and its got all those wonderful little flourishes that separate it from the more generic version used since and in particular in other media.

    In contrast, the prequel scores and TFA sound more generically symphonic (for lack of a better descriptor) in some ways. They feel smoother, less dynamic, and feel like they have less texture. Rey's Theme is an obvious exception. The use of the flute and chimes in isolation as punctuation feels more like classic Williams.

    Giacchino's score had some really strong moments and it is clear that he understand Williams' style, but it lacks the clarity, texture, and surprising quality of the classic OT scores.
     
  6. mclay18 Registered

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    I agree completely. DH part 1 had some amazing action music where Desplat was channeling Williams' more modern style (the brass flourishes in "Sky Battle" and "Fireplaces Escape" are very Williams-esque), where Part 2 poured on the drama and action.

    Giacchino did a fine job on "Rogue One", considering the compressed schedule, and pushed the right emotional buttons. His handling of Williams' material was sloppy in places, but he tried his best. It works beautifully in the film, I don't know if I'll buy the album.

    Desplat would've written a different score, the dramatic material would've been subtle but more emotional (Jyn and Cassian's final scene and Jedha's destruction, for example). The action music would be more forceful but more structured and clarity to the orchestration. I'm not sure how much of Williams' themes he would've used outside the main theme and the Imperial March. Giacchino tended to overdo the thematic references.
     
  7. A Necessary Evil One. Bad. Day.

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    Listening to it again, I still am not crazy about it. However, Vader's slaughter track is amazing.
     
  8. Roose Bolton Son of Katas

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    I love that it's the name of that cue :funny:
     
  10. DKDetective Elementary, Dear Robin

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    Giacchino's alternate pun title for it is "Live and Let Jedi".
     
  11. BatLobster Trailer Timewarper

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    Okay, so I've been a bit down on this score but I just listened to the Star Wars: Oxygen podcast over at RebelForce Radio doing part 1 of their analysis of this score, and it's already making my appreciation for it grow. A lot of clever things Giacchino snuck in, and I'm trying to judge it as its own thing rather than comparing to Williams so much.

    If you're really into the music of Star Wars I seriously recommend that podcast, go all the way back and listen to all of them. The analysis they give is pretty astounding and honestly makes you just fall in love with the saga even more.
     
  12. Solidus Knights of Ren

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    I listen to music when I workout a lot, and I really grew to love TFA's score beyond belief. I will say I've warmed to it a little, not as much as the previous. I think some of the themes are good.
     
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    That Williams choice, he's been going through a more dramatic period ever since Schindler's List. His music has been subdued, not as epic etc... both due to age and by choice.

    And I mean the prequel scores use flutes, woodwinds, and have clear textures and clear counterpoints as well. So it's not like he hasn't forgotten how to score a Star Wars film either. It's just intentionally a bit different, not to mention that the prequel scores were also badly edited into the actual films themselves, which is something that Williams has openly acknowledged he wasn't happy with.
     
  14. fancyarcher Registered

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    Overall I thought the music was fairly good. I think it could have been a bit more subdued though. Giacchino was clearly trying to be a bit too epic. Also the handling of Williams themes was perhaps a bit sloppy.
     
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  15. Mondragon My other Avi is Gaucho Mickey

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    This was an interesting look at the score and composition:
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    Film Symphony Orchestra - R1
     

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