Michael jackson's big comeback

[Kritish]

I'm not saying I agree with him sharing his bed with children. But that doesn't mean he's doing anything sexual with them.

Yeah, that's why the kid described details of his dick. Nothing sexual going on in that bedroom.

 

[LastSunrise1981]

Yeah, that's why the kid described details of his dick. Nothing sexual going on in that bedroom.

Which kid? The 93 case could've involved the kid walking in on Michael while he was changing or even showering. Just because someone shares their bed with someone doesn't mean it's sexual.

Look, I'm not saying I agree with Michael sharing his bed, but I'm not going to flat out call him a child molestor or slander his name where there are REAL criminals out there killing, molesting, and abusing children in general.

I just don't believe Michael molested the kid in 93 and I don't believe he molested the kid in 05. I truly believe that has badly as Sneddon wanted to get him in 93 and 05, that if he had found something that indicated Michael molesting a child they would've put him under the cell. I've seen a lot of my friends who are girls naked before and I can describe their body to you in detail. Doesn't mean I've slept with them.

Okay, tell me this. If YOUR child was molested would you accept $20 million dollars? I don't give a **** if it buys you good therapy or not, but would YOU accept it and shut up about it? Or would YOU fight for your child and make sure it doesn't happen to anyone else? Don't dance around the question either.

Better yet, would you allow your son to spend the night at an accused molestors house? Again don't dance around the subject and spin it to fit YOUR argument.

 

[LastSunrise1981]

I also like to add that for Michael to be a child molestor he sure picked a hell of a time to start doing it. Seriously, what pedophile waits ten years to molest a child?

What pedophile who has been around MANY kids, including his own, his brothers kids, Nicole Richie, Ryan White, Lisa Marie's kids, and so forth. Yet none of them reported anything? I seriously doubt a pedophile will wait around for YEARS before actually doing it.

I don't see the priests who molest the altar get the same treatment as Michael. I swear the media painted him out to be this evil monster, while actual monsters are out there hurting innocent children and elderly people.

So no, I don't believe Michael molested any of those kids. Didn't believe it in 93, didn't believe it in 05, and will continue to hold that belief until proven otherwise.

 

[Kritish]

I must be the only person that isn't okay with him sleeping with kids.

 

[LastSunrise1981]

I must be the only person that isn't okay with him sleeping with kids.

Who said I was okay with it? I don't agree with it. I'm just saying that just because he shares his bed with children doesn't mean he's molesting them.

Why are you having such a hard time grasping that concept? I wouldn't allow my kids to sleep with a grown man who isn't related to me, so I'm definitely not okay with it at all. But I'm not going to say he's molesting them or physically hurting them.

 

[LastSunrise1981]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4twCnuBbVbo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOGOEIJRYfY
(Man in the Mirror Part 2)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMEyIFC9adY
(Beat It/Live in Bucharest)


While we're on the topic of Michael Jackson. For those who appreciate his craft here's an emotional live performance of him doing "Man in the Mirror".



During his Dangerous Tour I had the pleasure of seeing Michael Jackson live in Cologne, Germany. After enduring two boring opening acts, my feet were killing me and I was ready to leave. As I was making my way to the exit with my dad Michael Jackson showed up and I stayed afterwards. I was blown away by his performance and how he literally puts 1000000% into his craft.

After the show there was a Michael Jackson look alike who came through the crowd. He looked like him, moved like him, and he even showed off some dance moves. At first I thought it was him and I was so shocked that I couldn't speak at all. Needless to say it wasn't him obviously, but overall it was an amazing performance.

 

[JewishHobbit]

Never been to a concert, but I'd love to see Michael Jackson live. I'd love to see him make a come back.

American Idol should do a Michael Jackson theme night.

 

[Orko Is King]

I pretty much agree with Dave Chapelle on the on the MJ situation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXFS_-vTuyE

 

[Spider-Bite]

Michael Jackson's career is gone, his last album sold over 500,000 copies if I'm correct.

I have no idea how many Essential Michael Jackson sold, but it wasn't expected to sell anything at all. He released number ones, a greatest hits album the same day his last accuser went public. It sold 7 million. During and right after the trial, to finish out his contract with Sony, he released another two greatest hits albums at about the same time. that's like the fifth or sixth comiliation album he's released. You wouldn't expect them to sell practically anything, because the people that would buy them, already own all of those songs.

 

[Spider-Bite]

Okay, tell me this. If YOUR child was molested would you accept $20 million dollars? I don't give a **** if it buys you good therapy or not, but would YOU accept it and shut up about it? Or would YOU fight for your child and make sure it doesn't happen to anyone else? Don't dance around the question either.

Better yet, would you allow your son to spend the night at an accused molestors house? Again don't dance around the subject and spin it to fit YOUR argument.

Accepting the 20 million does not stop you from testifying at a criminal trial. Yes most good parents would take the money, AND send him to prison.

 

[Spider-Bite]

Never been to a concert, but I'd love to see Michael Jackson live. I'd love to see him make a come back.

American Idol should do a Michael Jackson theme night.

they are.

 

[Spider-Bite]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4twCnuBbVbo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOGOEIJRYfY
(Man in the Mirror Part 2)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMEyIFC9adY
(Beat It/Live in Bucharest)


While we're on the topic of Michael Jackson. For those who appreciate his craft here's an emotional live performance of him doing "Man in the Mirror".



During his Dangerous Tour I had the pleasure of seeing Michael Jackson live in Cologne, Germany. After enduring two boring opening acts, my feet were killing me and I was ready to leave. As I was making my way to the exit with my dad Michael Jackson showed up and I stayed afterwards. I was blown away by his performance and how he literally puts 1000000% into his craft.

After the show there was a Michael Jackson look alike who came through the crowd. He looked like him, moved like him, and he even showed off some dance moves. At first I thought it was him and I was so shocked that I couldn't speak at all. Needless to say it wasn't him obviously, but overall it was an amazing performance.

Dude I own every Mj album there is except MJ number ones and Essential. I also own the following DVDs.

History 1
History 2
Dangerous the Short Films
Ghosts
Number Ones

And I can dance just like him. Seriously. I'm extremely good. I hope he's not a child molestor, but there is a reasonably good chance he is one.

edit... I forgot I own that Bucharest DVD that you just posted clips from too. beat it was good, but Man in the Mirror was incredible.

 

[Won '08]

Wacko Jacko is a damn kid toucher. Theres no way you get accused of the same thing over and over again for over 20 years in the exact same compromising positions and it not be true. No way in hell. Jack touches kids. There.

Doesn't mean he cant perform his ass off.

 

[Kritish]

Wacko Jacko is a damn kid toucher. Theres no way you get accused of the same thing over and over again for over 20 years in the exact same compromising positions and it not be true. No way in hell. Jack touches kids. There.

Doesn't mean he cant perform his ass off.

Yeah I know, it's like it's become popular to claim he's innocent. I'll leave it at "I wouldn't leave him with one of my kids".

 

[Spider-Bite]

Wacko Jacko is a damn kid toucher. Theres no way you get accused of the same thing over and over again for over 20 years in the exact same compromising positions and it not be true. No way in hell. Jack touches kids. There.

Doesn't mean he cant perform his ass off.

In 93 he was accused. During the investigation a second child was found to say that one day while MIchael was goofing around with him, and tickling him, Michael tickled his groin. That boy, now an adult, testified at the trial, and through is testimony and transcipts of the original interview, it was revealed that the social worker interviewing the boy, put it in the boy's head. Any social worker knows how to do it. It's actually extremely easy to do. Most non social workers could do it.

Then 10 years later he was accused by a kid, and it was actually proven that the story was false. It was really proven. Your following statment was false.

Theres no way you get accused of the same thing over and over again for over 20 years exact same compromising positions

It was 10 years, 3 accusers, and the stories were each extremely different. There wasn't a simmillair pattern. The only reasonably believable one is the first original 93 accuser.

 

[Spider-Bite]

Yeah I know, it's like it's become popular to claim he's innocent. I'll leave it at "I wouldn't leave him with one of my kids".

I wouldn't either, even if it was proven that he wasn't. Just look at the baby dangling, the drug abuse, the plastic surgery, and other eccentrities. Most of them are his own business, but he's clearly unstable.

 

[Spider-Bite]

Which kid? The 93 case could've involved the kid walking in on Michael while he was changing or even showering. Just because someone shares their bed with someone doesn't mean it's sexual.

He described markings on the underside of his penis, which are only visible when it's erect.

There are only 2 possiblities, neither of them including the one you mentioned.

1. somebody else had sex with him, possibly the boy's mother or father, and told the kid what to look like. It would explain why that boy has not spoken to his mother in 10 years.

2. He molested the kid

 

[Spider-Bite]

Why is it that whenever this debate comes up I'm the only objective one? Seriously I regularly visit an MJ forum to get remixes and keep up with the news on him, but no matter which board I'm on, when the subject comes up everybody is either horribly biased against him or in favor of him. Nobody acts objective about it. They either give ridiculous arguments in defense of him, or their arguments against him include incorrect facts.

 

[Kritish]

Has anyone figured out how he turned white?

 

[Won '08]

In 93 he was accused. During the investigation a second child was found to say that one day while MIchael was goofing around with him, and tickling him, Michael tickled his groin. That boy, now an adult, testified at the trial, and through is testimony and transcipts of the original interview, it was revealed that the social worker interviewing the boy, put it in the boy's head. Any social worker knows how to do it. It's actually extremely easy to do. Most non social workers could do it.

Then 10 years later he was accused by a kid, and it was actually proven that the story was false. It was really proven. Your following statment was false.


It was 10 years, 3 accusers, and the stories were each extremely different. There wasn't a simmillair pattern. The only reasonably believable one is the first original 93 accuser.

Blah blah blah blah-Kid Toucher-blah blah blah-Touches Kids...

 

[Spider-Bite]

Has anyone figured out how he turned white?

he claims it was the disease called vitiligo. The 93 accuser accurately described the appearance of a vitiligo scar on the underside of Mj's penis, disproving tabloid rumours of skin bleaching, and adding credibility to the child molestation claims which were worse than the skin bleaching allegations.

 

[Kritish]

Blah blah blah blah-Kid Toucher-blah blah blah-Touches Kids...

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

 

[LastSunrise1981]

Has anyone figured out how he turned white?

Well, some say he bleached his skin and others have stated he has vitiligo.

I have seen the effects of Vitiligo and it's very consistent with what Michael has spoke about. Granted, I don't know everything about it, but I've personally seen people with it and it's pretty much what you expect in terms of an African American losing color in their skin.

But according to some Michael bleached his skin. Although many experts have noticed how his skin color slowly started to change during Thriller.

So who knows?

 

[Kritish]

he claims it was the disease called vitiligo. The 93 accuser accurately described the appearance of a vitiligo scar on the underside of Mj's penis, disproving tabloid rumours of skin bleaching, and adding credibility to the child molestation claims which were worse than the skin bleaching allegations.

*shudders* I'll stick with Black Sabbath,Iron Maiden and Metallica thank you.

 

[Spider-Bite]

Blah blah blah blah-Kid Toucher-blah blah blah-Touches Kids...

that's pretty funny, but that's not a real picture. You could have at least admitted your facts were incorrect. blah blah blah is usually an attempt to escape defeat in an argument. I didn't say he neve rmolested a kid, I just tell the facts straight, and look at it objectively. There are reasons to believe he's innocent, and reasons to believe he's guilty.