MICHAEL KEATON RETURNS (or at least in discussion) AS BATMAN

[Matt.S99]

It’s definitely not the same physical suit. Those things disintegrate over time. I feel like it will mostly be the Returns suit with minor tweaks

 

[Loden Greatstorm]

So all those Kingdom Come rumours were all BS?

 

[antsman41]

So all those Kingdom Come rumours were all BS?

No. Listen to the weight of that thing, plus the thickness of the neck.

 

[antsman41]

I’m guessing it won’t be so mechanic, but a nice “old man” upgrade to the Returns suit. Hints of the BvS suit… maybe a touch of TDK, yet feeling very Burton.

 

[The Shape]

The B89 score at the beginning of the teaser!!!

 

[Loden Greatstorm]

No. Listen to the weight of that thing, plus the thickness of the neck.

A hybrid of these suits would be amazing.

 

[eledoremassis02]

The neck thickness is very Returns and the ear curve is very 89

Also

 

[Milk Tray Guy]

The neck thickness is very Returns and the ear curve is very 89

Also

So, is that going to be something like the way Reverse Flash beats the living tar out of Batman in The Button?

 

[Detective Conan]

Spoiler

 

[The Caped Knight]

I'm very interested in Bruce life, because it appears he is isolated and abandoned his life as Batman.

 

[Milk Tray Guy]

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?? Not seeing anything there.

 

[Detective Conan]

?? Not seeing anything there.

Spoiler

Vieweranon(who’s very reliable) is saying (in a tweet quote to a site’s news headline about the Batgirl’s directors cryptic comments about the ‘real’ Batman appearing in the movie) that it will be Keaton’s Batman that appear in the Batgirl movie as a result of the end of this Flash movie that will have the Burton universe merging with the current DCEU. Causing the Keaton Batman to replace Affleck Batman as the DCEU Batman.

 

[Milk Tray Guy]

Spoiler

Vieweranon(who’s very reliable) is saying (in a tweet quote to a site’s news headline about the Batgirl’s directors cryptic comments about the ‘real’ Batman appearing in the movie) that it will be Keaton’s Batman that appear in the Batgirl movie as a result of the end of this Flash movie that will have the Burton universe merging with the current DCEU. Causing the Keaton Batman to replace Affleck Batman as the DCEU Batman.

Ah, okay. Thanks.

 

[Detective Conan]

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

 

[JubJub86]

Ah man, really hope they're not going for an Affleck-esque "broken" Batman here. Keaton's guy was always violent, but let's not tarnish Keaton's with any of that uber-dark "nothing matters anymore" nonsense.

 

[DocLathropBrown]

Ah man, really hope they're not going for an Affleck-esque "broken" Batman here. Keaton's guy was always violent, but let's not tarnish Keaton's with any of that uber-dark "nothing matters anymore" nonsense.

In my opinion, it would be quite justified and more impactful. We've seen this Batman before--to see him on the ragged edge would actually have impact to those already familiar with him. Affleck's story in BvS hit less because well, it was our introduction to him.

I mean, the idea that his life has been one long dark backslide starting from the loss of Selina at the end of BR, following through to the death of Alfred would certainly be quite dramatic.

 

[Milk Tray Guy]

In my opinion, it would be quite justified and more impactful. We've seen this Batman before--to see him on the ragged edge would actually have impact to those already familiar with him. Affleck's story in BvS hit less because well, it was our introduction to him.

I mean, the idea that his life has been one long dark backslide starting from the loss of Selina at the end of BR, following through to the death of Alfred would certainly be quite dramatic.

I think it would be consistent too with the change we saw in him at the beginning of Returns, where he seemed to have slipped into a more solitary life. It could seem an understandable progression (or regression?) from there.

 

[JubJub86]

It'd also be beyond depressing.

And hell, I love The Last Jedi and think that one makes total sense.

 

[DocLathropBrown]

It'd also be beyond depressing.

And hell, I love The Last Jedi and think that one makes total sense.

I mean, do you really think the point of the movie won't be that he comes out of it by the end? Like, really? That's the entire reason you'd be telling that story. Same as TLJ.

I didn't much care for TLJ's ideas for Luke, but Batman is a tragic figure to start out with. Keaton's Batman even moreso. It only makes sense to me.

 

[JubJub86]

It does in a way. Seems a little odd he'd take that long to come out of said funk though - Alfred was what, 80s...back in the 80s? The guy probably passed 30 years ago. Just don't know if I like the idea of the borderline-suicidal thing where he's become even more of a zealot here, like he's lost sight of the goal and he's just plain out there bruising.

Mostly because we've literally just done all that, and it was a real slog to get through with that interpretation. Keaton-Bats is that eccentric borderline-psycho thing like Pattinson's, yes, I just don't know that losing even Alfred would put that guy in that place. Especially given that the guy was right up there in age decades ago. It would absolutely hurt Bruce bigtime, but I don't think it's necessarily the same as "Joker beat a kid to death and I blame myself".

 

[DocLathropBrown]

It does in a way. Seems a little odd he'd take that long to come out of said funk though - Alfred was what, 80s...back in the 80s? The guy probably passed 30 years ago. Just don't know if I like the idea of the borderline-suicidal thing where he's become even more of a zealot here, like he's lost sight of the goal and he's just plain out there bruising.

Mostly because we've literally just done all that, and it was a real slog to get through with that interpretation. Keaton-Bats is that eccentric borderline-psycho thing like Pattinson's, yes, I just don't know that losing even Alfred would put that guy in that place. Especially given that the guy was right up there in age decades ago. It would absolutely hurt Bruce bigtime, but I don't think it's necessarily the same as "Joker beat a kid to death and I blame myself".

Gough was 73 in 1989--but he died in 2011. Nothing to say that his Alfred, like in The Dark Knight Returns wasn't still alive for an equally long time. I'd imagine that even if he were unable to fulfill his duties, Bruce would have been taking care of him. Considering that Keaton actually took the time to eulogize Gough upon his death, I'd say the actor would definitely be aware of what Alfred means to Bruce.

As with some other versions of the character, Alfred was '89 Bruce's only link to humanity. Without him having built a Bat family of his own (as we're now divesting the Schumacher films from the story), without Alfred, Bruce has nothing but his obsession. It wouldn't be that Bruce is consciously trying to kill himself--moreover he's just become lost in the abyss without Alfred being there to regularly pull him back into the light. Ignoring his advancing age--continuing to take risks that only a younger man could endure. Keaton's Wayne was shown to be intensely aloof--his version needed Alfred perhaps more than any other. Keaton's Bruce is probably not aware of just how badly he's teetering on the edge.

 

[Pfeiffer-Pfan]

Umm... Keaton needs his Catwoman back, OK WB?

 

[GREEN =w= DAY]

Umm... Keaton needs his Catwoman back, OK WB?

That woman will forever be beautiful

 

[universeman]

Speaking of Catwoman. In the 89 comics

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Her, and Bruce is rekindling their romance, and she's seeing a psychologist, and talk show personality name Dr. Q (Harley).