Microsoft in talks to buy Activision

Well Microsoft will still continue doing business, making deals and buying/acquiring companies after this ActiVision | Blizzard + King fiasco.

I eXpect them do another shopping spree in the future.
Yes they will, but this isn't over. They can still acquire Activision.
 
I’d prefer they went after smaller partner studios going forward, and otherwise put all that money directly into their existing studios. Don’t let lack of resources mean delays, games coming out with features missing, 30 FPS for shooters etc. Have all the staff you need and have them well paid above the market norm. That would be a better investment IMO long term.
 
Looks like this will go through by October as things stand.
 
Looks like this will go through by October as things stand.
They are only doing it because from what i read they are trying to reappeal in the UK. But everywhere else, it is kinda a done deal now, that they will acquire Activision | Blizzard + King.
 
They are only doing it because from what i read they are trying to reappeal in the UK. But everywhere else, it is kinda a done deal now, that they will acquire Activision | Blizzard + King.
Yes, it looks like agreement has been reached behind the scenes and they are now playing out the formalities for it to go through by UK law and the regulatory body’s processes.
 

Can't wait for this to be out of the news cycle. I love listening to gaming news while doing other things but the number of hours of listening time this has taken up in the last 2 years has been a joke. Please just let it be over and never spoken of again!
 


Kotick will leave at the end of the year.

I said this is in the Sony thread, but if they do nothing...this is the beginning of their end
 


Kotick will leave at the end of the year.

Nice trailer, and good riddance!
 
I said this is in the Sony thread, but if they do nothing...this is the beginning of their end
Yeah, no. Sony is going to do just fine. They have been in this longer than Microsoft and haven't had to rely on buying out third party IP to shore up their content. Microsoft has shown time and time again how often they bungle their aquisitions and I doubt this is any different.
 
So, they are keeping Kotick on till the end of the year. He should have been ****canned years ago. Keeping him on even for a transition is a disgrace.
 
Yeah, no. Sony is going to do just fine. They have been in this longer than Microsoft and haven't had to rely on buying out third party IP to shore up their content. Microsoft has shown time and time again how often they bungle their aquisitions and I doubt this is any different.
If anything its a problem for the market in general.
Left and right studios getting bought and all that, isnt good.

But for Sony on its own, its not that huge of a deal.
Sure, losing COD sucks...but they still dominate the market last i checked and leave MS far behind them.
And MS track record isnt good...they took and take a hard nosedive with Halo, which is THEIR IP.
So far they have done little really cool things with all the IPs they have.
So, they are keeping Kotick on till the end of the year. He should have been ****canned years ago. Keeping him on even for a transition is a disgrace.
Yup.
One reason why im glad Sony doesnt have Activision/Blizzard.
The awful taste of Kotick and all that, MS will never be able to wash away.
 
If anything its a problem for the market in general.
Left and right studios getting bought and all that, isnt good.

But for Sony on its own, its not that huge of a deal.
Sure, losing COD sucks...but they still dominate the market last i checked and leave MS far behind them.
And MS track record isnt good...they took and take a hard nosedive with Halo, which is THEIR IP.
So far they have done little really cool things with all the IPs they have.
That is the bigger problem: the market shrinks and the gamers (literally) pay for it. And Sony has COD for at least a decade and given the market volatility, COD may not even be COD in ten years time. It might be something else entirely that Sony owns or that's truly third party.

Microsoft and Sony both have some great IP but Microsoft keeps fumbling theirs.
 
Honestly, Microsoft should stop making game consoles and just focus on being a publisher. They seem to be better at that at least.

And as for Activision and Blizzard.....oh boy are we gonna get better workplace situations and games out of them once Bobby Kotick leaves in January. Pretty much ALL the behind-the-scenes problems at both companies, Blizzard especially, only happened due to his enabling of such behavior. And hopefully, this will allow groups like Raven Software and Treyarch to be allowed to make other games that aren't Call of Duty. Most young people seem to forget Treyarch were the guys who made open-world Spider-Man games a thing; Insomniac just perfected it. Or that Raven gave us the excellent Diablo-esque X-Men Legends and Marvel Ultimate Alliance games.
 
And hopefully, this will allow groups like Raven Software and Treyarch to be allowed to make other games that aren't Call of Duty. Most young people seem to forget Treyarch were the guys who made open-world Spider-Man games a thing; Insomniac just perfected it. Or that Raven gave us the excellent Diablo-esque X-Men Legends and Marvel Ultimate Alliance games.
Ditto. Raven Software were also behind some of the SW Jedi Knight games (Jedi Academy still has the best lightsaber battles; don't @ me). Also, with the retro shooter renaissance, I'd love to have a new Hexen/Heretic game and a new Soldier of Fortune as well.

A new XML would be great too if Disney/Marvel lend the rights to ActiBlizz/Microsoft.
 
Ditto. Raven Software were also behind some of the SW Jedi Knight games (Jedi Academy still has the best lightsaber battles; don't @ me). Also, with the retro shooter renaissance, I'd love to have a new Hexen/Heretic game and a new Soldier of Fortune as well.

A new XML would be great too if Disney/Marvel lend the rights to ActiBlizz/Microsoft.
Agreed. I just don't want any more Call of Duty every damn year. It's getting old and the 10 year olds talking in multiplayer on that and GTA Online are not helping matters.

Side note, who keeps letting kids that young play those sort of games?
 
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Yeah, no. Sony is going to do just fine.
100% disagreed there. I would love to be wrong, but Microsoft is now in control of PlayStation's long term best selling franchise. That already spells doom, gloom, and disaster to me.
They have been in this longer than Microsoft and haven't had to rely on buying out third party IP to shore up their content.
Sony may have been in this longer than mS, but they have never had and never will have the buying power of the latter. Unless they muster up everything they got to throw at Take Two, which I made a thread about in the Sony section.
Microsoft has shown time and time again how often they bungle their aquisitions and I doubt this is any different.
It's certainly different than anything Sony has ever done. They've only ever acquired studios. Microsoft went and bought two publishers in three years, many more times the size of any acquisition Sony's ever been capable of. And they're not stopping here.
 
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100% disagreed there. I would love to be wrong, but Microsoft is now in control of PlayStation's long term best selling franchise. That already spells doom, gloom, and disaster to me.

Sony may have been in this longer than mS, but they have never had and never will have the buying power of the latter. Unless they muster up everything they got to throw at Take Two, which I made a thread about in the Sony section.

It's certainly different than anything Sony has ever done. They've only ever acquired studios. Microsoft went and bought two publishers in three years, many more times the size of any acquisition Sony's ever been capable of. And they're not stopping here.
Sony has far more Franchises in the Chamber that they can rely on.
Sure COD is a good money maker yearly, but there is more than enough there for Sony and if sony wants, they could easily build a COD killer...im sure of it.
Also, doesnt Sony in general sell 30% more Consoles than MS monthly?
Hell MS even said they lose to Sony...that is one of the arguments they made for the Aquisition.

Sure MS has the money and can keep doing this...but the money isnt coming back.
They invest far more in this and lose far more also.
It will take years till MS makes profit from buying Activision Blizzard.
Especially since the Profit AB made from Sony will fall away and i doubt every COD player on PS5 will switch to MS.

And what has MS done with all the Aquisitions so far?
Like look at the number of Exclusives so far for this console generation...not much more than Sony.
If anything, both lack when it comes to that.
We got so few Exclusives since the Release of the new consoles.
 
Sony has far more Franchises in the Chamber that they can rely on.
Not a single one of Sony's own first party franchises in the chamber has ever sold like a CoD title. Not even close.
Sure COD is a good money maker yearly, but there is more than enough there for Sony and if sony wants, they could easily build a COD killer...im sure of it.
what makes you think it would be so easy for them? according to Sony themselves, no game can match CoD for competition. They even said so themselves when comparing CoD to Battlefield, which has been the former's competition for a while:
“Electronic Arts… has tried for many years to produce a rival to Call of Duty with its Battlefield series” but “the Battlefield franchise cannot keep up.”
Also, doesnt Sony in general sell 30% more Consoles than MS monthly?
Hell MS even said they lose to Sony...that is one of the arguments they made for the Aquisition.
oh yeah, everybody's buying a Ps5 now that it's actually in stock. I should have been clear that I don't think the damage will be done to the playstation brand immediately, but the burn will be felt overtime as the generation goes further into its lifetime. And of course mS said they lose to Sony...they said every possible thing they could say to make their argument that they should have the right to buy Activision. And it worked.
Sure MS has the money and can keep doing this...but the money isnt coming back.
They invest far more in this and lose far more also.
It will take years till MS makes profit from buying Activision Blizzard.
That's not really a concern for mS. This was literally the biggest acquisition they ever made. I don't think they're even interested in making profit, they are only interested in gaining marketshare. and since they didn't try to do so with all of the talent they already had, they decided to buy the biggest piece of marketshare that could possibly be bought, the publisher Activision Blizzard King.
Especially since the Profit AB made from Sony will fall away and i doubt every COD player on PS5 will switch to MS.
Like I said, I don't think we/they will feel the burn right away, but overtime this generation the burn will be gradual and then dramatic. Right now, CoD will still sell more on Ps5. But eventually, mS will just offer CoD on gamepass and more and more of the fanbase will take notice. As the value proposition of playing CoD on a paid subscription service over paying $70 gets more and more conspicuous, more and more of the fanbase will likely jump ship to Xbox because of it.
And what has MS done with all the Aquisitions so far?
Like look at the number of Exclusives so far for this console generation...not much more than Sony.
That's a separate point. They have had more studios than Sony even before this acquisition, and somehow they were allowed to still proceed. But from their previous acquisitions, they have released two games this year, Redfall & Starfield. While the former was a flop, the latter was a big hit for them.
If anything, both lack when it comes to that.
We got so few Exclusives since the Release of the new consoles.
Yep, I can definitely agree with you there. I have a huge backlog of games to play and the vast majority of them are still Ps4 games. There doesn't seem to be very many AAA releases from this generation overall.
 
Not a single one of Sony's own first party franchises in the chamber has ever sold like a CoD title. Not even close.

Sure, but the sales will not reach this hight anymore now that it falls away from Sony...so the days of COD selling as much...are pretty much over.
And then lets look how it compares to Sonys franchises.
That first party games often dont sell as well as Multiplatform, is not new.

what makes you think it would be so easy for them? according to Sony themselves, no game can match CoD for competition. They even said so themselves when comparing CoD to Battlefield, which has been the former's competition for a while:


What was said during the whole process, means little in the end.
MS said stuff just to be able to buy it, Sony said stuff to prevent it.
COD is a simple Ego Shooter...its not hard if you put the money in.
But Sony didnt need to since it was Multiplatform so far.

oh yeah, everybody's buying a Ps5 now that it's actually in stock. I should have been clear that I don't think the damage will be done to the playstation brand immediately, but the burn will be felt overtime as the generation goes further into its lifetime. And of course mS said they lose to Sony...they said every possible thing they could say to make their argument that they should have the right to buy Activision. And it worked.

If this all will be felt later, then we dont really need to worry.
Especially since many pointed it out, MS has in time messed up more than they got right.
Who says they will not mess up COD when their own HALO series tanked because of their decisions?

That's not really a concern for mS. This was literally the biggest acquisition they ever made. I don't think they're even interested in making profit, they are only interested in gaining marketshare. and since they didn't try to do so with all of the talent they already had, they decided to buy the biggest piece of marketshare that could possibly be bought, the publisher Activision Blizzard King.

Everyone is interested in making profit...MS wants to do it fast.
That is why they bought it.
They dont want to build franchises, they want to benefit from them.

Like I said, I don't think we/they will feel the burn right away, but overtime this generation the burn will be gradual and then dramatic. Right now, CoD will still sell more on Ps5. But eventually, mS will just offer CoD on gamepass and more and more of the fanbase will take notice. As the value proposition of playing CoD on a paid subscription service over paying $70 gets more and more conspicuous, more and more of the fanbase will likely jump ship to Xbox because of it.

That has to be seen first.
Im not sure if CoD really is the system seller, we will see.

That's a separate point. They have had more studios than Sony even before this acquisition, and somehow they were allowed to still proceed. But from their previous acquisitions, they have released two games this year, Redfall & Starfield. While the former was a flop, the latter was a big hit for them.

1 out of 2 while Sony will probably have 2 out of 2 this year after Horizon, next week spider-man 2.
Like, MS doesnt really stand on good legs currently.

Sales way behind Sony, many of their IPs struggle...i heard the new Forza Motorsport or so is not shaping up to be that grand.
Halo is pretty much dead at this point.
The rest of the Ips they have are far away, like the next elder scrolls.

I dont know, i look at all that and dont see MS dealing a deadly blow to Sony on this.
 
Sure, but the sales will not reach this hight anymore now that it falls away from Sony...so the days of COD selling as much...are pretty much over.
Over??? Are you kidding me sir??? Last year's CoD was the MOST successful launch they ever had! CoD's bestselling status isn't going anywhere!
What was said during the whole process, means little in the end.
How do you figure that? If what was said meant little, then Sony wouldn't have been fighting so hard tryna block the merger in the first place.
MS said stuff just to be able to buy it, Sony said stuff to prevent it.
Yes, and mS ended up winning...so everything mS said mattered more to those in power than what Sony said.
COD is a simple Ego Shooter...its not hard if you put the money in.
I'm not sure what you mean by ego shooter, but personal opinion about CoD doesn't take away from the fact it is in the top 3 best selling games almost every year. I myself have had CoD as my go-to multiplayer game for over a decade.
But Sony didnt need to since it was Multiplatform so far.
If Sony felt like they didn't need CoD, then they wouldn't have signed a 10 year contract with mS. They even said their business might never recover when/if the merger goes through.
If this all will be felt later, then we dont really need to worry.
Especially since many pointed it out, MS has in time messed up more than they got right.
Who says they will not mess up COD when their own HALO series tanked because of their decisions?
Yeah, I really would love to be wrong about everything that I am saying, but I just can't see it happening any other way. I would much rather mS run CoD into the ground and make the whole fan base move to another game rather than have the vast majority of the fan base migrate to Xbox and have playstation deserted.
Everyone is interested in making profit...MS wants to do it fast.
That is why they bought it.
They dont want to build franchises, they want to benefit from them.
In the long run yes mS is interested in making profit, but in the short term I think their goal is just forcing their way into more of the marketshare. You're absolutely right, they want to benefit from existing franchises by ruining the industry instead of building from the many resources they already have. Which is why this consolidation should have never been allowed.
That has to be seen first.
Im not sure if CoD really is the system seller, we will see.
The colloquial definitely we have for system seller, is a game that a gamer will potentially buy a whole platform for just to play. CoD has been the best selling franchise on playstation for three straight generations, so I definitely think it has been a system seller. It doesn't matter that it's multiplatform, since the majority of console players have been playing on playstation.
1 out of 2 while Sony will probably have 2 out of 2 this year after Horizon, next week spider-man 2.
Horizon 2 came out last year, not this year. A DLC doesn't count as full fledged AAA release.
Like, MS doesnt really stand on good legs currently.

Sales way behind Sony, many of their IPs struggle...i heard the new Forza Motorsport or so is not shaping up to be that grand.
Halo is pretty much dead at this point.
The rest of the Ips they have are far away, like the next elder scrolls.

I dont know, i look at all that and dont see MS dealing a deadly blow to Sony on this.
Only for the time being. Activision is the biggest publisher in the industry, and now they belong to mS. Like I said, as time goes by...you will see deadly the blow is. But again, I hope I am wrong.
 

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