Mind over Matter: The Official Sylar Discussion Thread

[gambitfire]

I thought we should give him a thread.

And as for having what's his name (Janus from Goldeneye) play him, that is the most brilliant idea i have heard.

As for the title well i figured it was pretty obvious by now his main power is telekenisis.

 

[ragdus]

I posted this same thing over in Claire's thread. Thoughts?

I have revised my Sylar theory based on posts I made earlier today.


I don't think Sylar's brain thievery has anything to do with his abilities. Consider: Claire was unable to regenerate until after the stick was taken from her brain. Sylar must know that if her brain is damaged she has no power (not necessarily HER but he knows there's someone out there). Also consider: Hiro tells Peter HE is the key and he needs to save Claire. Peter needs Clair's powers to stop Sylar, and Sylar needs her brain destroyed to prevent her from regenerating thus prevent Peter from gaining her power.

I suspect Sylar doesn't know WHICH hero has the regenerative abilities, or maybe the supers he's killed so far also had it and Claire is the last one. I don't know. But I don't think Sylar can gain her powers by taking her brain, he will just prevent Peter from being strong enough to beat him.

 

[terarist]

I don't think Sylar's brain thievery has anything to do with his abilities. Consider: Claire was unable to regenerate until after the stick was taken from her brain. Sylar must know that if her brain is damaged she has no power (not necessarily HER but he knows there's someone out there). Also consider: Hiro tells Peter HE is the key and he needs to save Claire. Peter needs Clair's powers to stop Sylar, and Sylar needs her brain destroyed to prevent her from regenerating thus prevent Peter from gaining her power.

I suspect Sylar doesn't know WHICH hero has the regenerative abilities, or maybe the supers he's killed so far also had it and Claire is the last one. I don't know. But I don't think Sylar can gain her powers by taking her brain, he will just prevent Peter from being strong enough to beat him.

Well, you're completely right. There is absolutely no proof, nor any overt implication that his abilities are derived from the brains he steals. All we have to go on is that he appears to have multiple abilities, telekinesis primary among them, and certain predilection for the brains of other super powered individuals.

Now, he could just be a deranged serial killer/psychopath, with an intense paraphilia, involving emancipated brains. Or maybe it's diet related. Who knows? But they've made an explicit (and empty brain pans are rather explicit) point of showing his fascination for brains, and their removal. I'd love to explore some other ideas as to what this fascinating tendency is really about... What are you thinking the brain stealing is about?

As for Claire, you're quite right. Her powers ceased to work when her brain was put out of commission. I'm under the assumption that the writers raise this as an important point for later. It almost felt like there was a little flashing red light "important plot point". Perhaps they wanted to make the point, juxtaposed with his brain stealing, that her ability isn't a simple immune response (as it would normally be attributed, and is, in the comics) and that it is brain dependent. So why make the point? What does it mean? What are the writers trying to say?

It's a really good point about Claire, and deserves further discussion. Because as you say, her power may be useless to Sylar, if her brain is disconnected.

I'm going to have think about this.

 

[cerealkiller182]

I think it makes perfect sense that the only way to kill Clair was to cut off her head (at least damage the brain well enough). It was the rule in Highlander, and frankly it was the only way to kill Wolverine (maybe not anymore but that deabte is better serves elsewere). If she were to actually loose a hand she wouldnt grow a new one. If she held the hand there it might heal, but I would guess it would just heal into a stump. Thus take of the head/brain than you got nothing.

 

[Advocate05]

what if Sylar is Peter from the future? Just curious.

 

[burning-robot]

Here is a picture from NBC.com, its a picture of Sylars apartment. See anything interesting?

http://www.nbc.com/Heroes/photos/hro_1001_040.shtml

 

[sc12een17am3]

a picture of a boy? do u think thats sylar when he was younger?

 

[Gold Samurai]

Here is a picture from NBC.com, its a picture of Sylars apartment. See anything interesting?

http://www.nbc.com/Heroes/photos/hro_1001_040.shtml

"paul sylar" matches up with the imdb of his first name so its entirely possible that "janus from goldeneye" will play him. That would a good cliffhanger to end chapter 6 with the first glimpse of un shadowed sylar

 

[ragdus]

Nice catch

 

[Marc]

If it is actually Sean Bean playing Sylar then the show is automatically pushed up on my "coolest thing ever" list.

I didn't believe it at first since he is a big name actor but looking at his current and recent projects... the guy isn't doing so great. Troy bombed, The Island was Michael Bay... so sucked AND bombed, National Treasure was meh. Plus he is in a film with Lindsey Lohan! Death knell right there, thats without mentioning his remake of the Hitcher... with like no other known cast members.

 

[Kaboom]

check him out as an altar boy....maybe bennet was his priest

 

[-Æ-]

It is possible that sylar is taking the brains away not to leave evidence. Thus the African gentlment with Mr. Bennett (Glasses Man) can read peoples minds also, and can also erase them. So maybe Sylar knows of this, and doesn't want to leave a trace of what events took place. Kind of extreme, but its plausible.

 

[terarist]

Oh, fyi: Sylar may also have cryokinesis (is that what its' called?). I was just looking over the stills from the show, and he froze the agent outside the girls room. Or she did.

 

[gambitfire]

It is possible that sylar is taking the brains away not to leave evidence. Thus the African gentlment with Mr. Bennett (Glasses Man) can read peoples minds also, and can also erase them. So maybe Sylar knows of this, and doesn't want to leave a trace of what events took place. Kind of extreme, but its plausible.

Good Theory, me likes.

 

[burning-robot]

Nice catch

I saw it posted on Sylars wiki page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sylar Gotta love that wikipedia.

 

[Babs Gordon]

I'm gonna stick to my guns in believing that Sylar is picking up people's powers until someone proves me wrong. I'm not in a mad rush to figure the show out before I see it.

 

[Booznian]

If Sean Bean was cast as Sylar (Hes my #1 Favorite Actor), I would basically marry Heroes.

 

[Advocate05]

I'm gonna stick to my guns in believing that Sylar is picking up people's powers until someone proves me wrong. I'm not in a mad rush to figure the show out before I see it.

I feel the same way. I think he's actually taking powers. I think he's more like Rogue than Peter.

 

[gambitfire]

i thought Rogue was like Peter.

Since they both just borrow powers.

Well actually Sylar and Peter are both like Rogue

Rogue can either bower powers like Peter or she can take powers at the expense of anothers life like Sylar.

X-Men sets standards.

 

[The Question]

It doesn't seem likely to me that Sylar steals powers. All of his feats can be easily explained with a mastery of telekinesis. Even the freezing thing could be explained with telekinesis on a molecular level. If Sylar is Patient Zero, then he's most likely had his powers or has been aware of his powers the longest, and thus has had the most time to hone them.

 

[terarist]

It's a comic book show for an unsophisticated non-comic book reading audience. If it has the effect of different things, it's quite likely that they'll explain it as separate powers.

Besides, it adds a level of jeopardy to the show if he's actually amassing abilities. It raises the threat level, and the need to stop him soon, before the abilities grow too far.

though, I was rethinking the freezing thing. Maybe its' the girl he's afer that was hiding in the fbi? I dunno. Why is he after the girl? Why did he risk infiltrating a federal building to get her?

Questions, questions, questions.

 

[Advocate05]

i thought Rogue was like Peter.

Since they both just borrow powers.

Well actually Sylar and Peter are both like Rogue

Rogue can either bower powers like Peter or she can take powers at the expense of anothers life like Sylar.

X-Men sets standards.

Sylar more like Rogue where its touch.

Peter like Mimic where its proximity.

 

[The Question]

It's a comic book show for an unsophisticated non-comic book reading audience. If it has the effect of different things, it's quite likely that they'll explain it as separate powers.

Besides, it adds a level of jeopardy to the show if he's actually amassing abilities. It raises the threat level, and the need to stop him soon, before the abilities grow too far.

though, I was rethinking the freezing thing. Maybe its' the girl he's afer that was hiding in the fbi? I dunno. Why is he after the girl? Why did he risk infiltrating a federal building to get her?

Questions, questions, questions.

Maybe it's just because she was a witness who could identify him, and he wants to remain unprofiled for as long as possible.

 

[gambitfire]

Regardless I'm with the Question, i think it can all be explained wit Tek based abilities.

Too claim that this is far fetched for the already far fetched is very well far fetched.

 

[gambitfire]

Sylar more like Rogue where its touch.

Peter like Mimic where its proximity.

I just ment with the extent of what can be done though.