Comics "Omega Mutants": The Official Discussion Thread

[Valechan]

I don't remember if she used their powers specifically, but she used the powers of EVERYONE she ever absorbed. Including Jean and Bobby

 

[gambitfire]

X-Treme X-Men 10-17 she did just that

of course! Dude all i have to say is freaking HULK!! SHE TOUCHED THE FREAKIN HULK!!!

 

[gambitfire]

I don't remember if she used their powers specifically, but she used the powers of EVERYONE she ever absorbed. Including Jean and Bobby

She used some of Jean's, she used Cyclops, Wolverine (bone claws), Mastermind(i think), She mixed it what some mystique powers too, Hulk, Sabertooth, and i don't remember the rest

 

[rabidfanboy]

Her popping Wolverine's bone claws kept annoying me throughout that time period...

The only two omega level mutants that I know of that she's absorbed are Bobby and Jean. So they are the only ones I was considering in my previous post about her being at omega level while using their powers. I honestly think she could have been an omega herself what with the way her powers were developing there for a while.

 

[gambitfire]

well if it wheren't for sage she wouldn't of tapped into that power, and yes Wolverine claws where pointless considering all the other amazing abilities within her, they where just there for show.

 

[rabidfanboy]

Actually it was the skrull who first made it where Rogue could recall any template. Sage just helped the process along.

 

[Valechan]

Thing is, Omega Mutants are about potential. If Rogue has the potential to wield such power, then she should be Omega. It's not about the power you have, it's about the power you COULD have

 

[tirminyl]

Like Synch, he could have been an ominpotent mutant. He developed and used his abilities with more expertise than the other students (even when using their powers) and was still very young and inexperienced with them. He became my favorite because of the potential he has. They should resurrect him or bring him back to the comic pages in another universe. I would love to see them put his power to work.

I know he is not an omega, hell he's dead. Just thought my favorite should get an honorable mention

 

[rabidfanboy]

But that's just it sebita, if Rogue absorbed the power of an omega then she would have all that potential power that the omega had.

 

[tirminyl]

But that's just it sebita, if Rogue absorbed the power of an omega then she would have all that potential power that the omega had.

Mimic mimic'd the Phoenix, does that make him Omega, no. Rogue is powerful but she does not have unlimited potential. Her absorbtion powers are also limited in whom she can asborb.

 

[rabidfanboy]

Well you know I never actually said she was an omega. Just that she would be at omega level power while having the absorbed abilities of an omega.

Whether or not her own powers have "unlimited potential", if she temporarily absorbed Bobby, Quentin, Franklin or Jean's powers at that moment she would have the powers of an omega mutant. She could permanently absorbed them if she wanted like she did with Ms. Marvel and Sunfire. It still wouldn't make her an omega herself, but it would put her at omega level.

 

[X_fan08]

she would absorb the power but not the fine motor control that makes that absorbed person omega. the potential i dont think can be taken.

 

[tirminyl]

Correct. I can't recall her being able to absorb powerful mutants powers. Like I said, she is limited as to who she can absorb.

 

[javon]

To tap into the powers of mutants she's come into contact with and use them at her command, some powers together with others.

LOL, I knoq that. I was talking about using the power of any template she has touched.

 

[rabidfanboy]

Correct. I can't recall her being able to absorb powerful mutants powers. Like I said, she is limited as to who she can absorb.

She's absorbed both Jean and Bobby's powers before. I'd say they were pretty powerful mutants. There have been plenty of powerful people she has absorbed.

And let's not forget she doesn't just absorb their powers but also their psyche and memories.

 

[tirminyl]

She's absorbed both Jean and Bobby's powers before. I'd say they were pretty powerful mutants. There have been plenty of powerful people she has absorbed.

And let's not forget she doesn't just absorb their powers but also their psyche and memories.

Im just making a general comment. Overall Rogue is not Omega as her potential is limited. At best she could be a strong Alpha not an Omega.

 

[X_fan08]

She's absorbed both Jean and Bobby's powers before. I'd say they were pretty powerful mutants. There have been plenty of powerful people she has absorbed.

And let's not forget she doesn't just absorb their powers but also their psyche and memories.

RFB, all u did is just summarize her powers. the powers, memerioes and personality but the potential cant be touched. maybe the potential is spiritual or genetic or basically one's power and influence over enviroment.

 

[Valechan]

Mimic isn't a mutant. The Exiles Mimic maybe, but 616 Mimic isn't a mutant.

 

[javon]

Doesn't Rogue, Mimic, and Leech have similar powers? Wel I always knew Rogue and Leech did, but I forgot about Mimic.

 

[rabidfanboy]

Im just making a general comment. Overall Rogue is not Omega as her potential is limited. At best she could be a strong Alpha not an Omega.

Again I didn't say it made Rogue an omega mutant. But regardless, I still think her powers could have adapted and grown to make her into a possible omega candidate with the way she was being developed. Having the ability to recall every power she ever absorbed (and not being limited to only one at a time) puts her pretty damn close to having "unlimited potential" with her powers. And who is to say her powers won't develop further enabling her to absorb any being she comes in contact with. Jean started off moving pencils for pete's sake and look at her now.

RFB, all u did is just summarize her powers.

So I summarized her powers, point? Regardless of "potential" when Rogue absorbs another persons powers she has access to their powers and their memories on how to control those powers. It's the same thing as when Emma inhabited Bobby and pushed his powers passed his perceived limits. Emma didn't have his "potential" yet she was still able to control and use his "omega level" powers.

Like I've said, I'm not saying her absorbing an omega would make her an omega just that it would temporarily put her in the omega level power range. I know that being an omega is all about potential ability, but I also think there is a clear difference in power levels between alphas and omegas. Rogue wouldn't technically be an omega but the power she would be using would be on that level. Same way people look at folks like Storm and Magneto to have powers on the same level as omegas.

In all honesty, I'm sick of omega mutants. There are too damn many that should be or could possibly be. Everyone always talks about potential well geez then let's make every darn reality alterer an omega because you can't get much more unlimited potential then being able to change reality on a whim.

 

[X_fan08]

Again I didn't say it made Rogue an omega mutant. But regardless, I still think her powers could have adapted and grown to make her into a possible omega candidate with the way she was being developed. Having the ability to recall every power she ever absorbed (and not being limited to only one at a time) puts her pretty damn close to having "unlimited potential" with her powers. And who is to say her powers won't develop further enabling her to absorb any being she comes in contact with. Jean started off moving pencils for pete's sake and look at her now.



So I summarized her powers, point? Regardless of "potential" when Rogue absorbs another persons powers she has access to their powers and their memories on how to control those powers. It's the same thing as when Emma inhabited Bobby and pushed his powers passed his perceived limits. Emma didn't have his "potential" yet she was still able to control and use his "omega level" powers.

Like I've said, I'm not saying her absorbing an omega would make her an omega just that it would temporarily put her in the omega level power range. I know that being an omega is all about potential ability, but I also think there is a clear difference in power levels between alphas and omegas. Rogue wouldn't technically be an omega but the power she would be using would be on that level. Same way people look at folks like Storm and Magneto to have powers on the same level as omegas.

In all honesty, I'm sick of omega mutants. There are too damn many that should be or could possibly be. Everyone always talks about potential well geez then let's make every darn reality alterer an omega because you can't get much more unlimited potential then being able to change reality on a whim.

hold up, slim. my point is that u repeated urself twice. emma frost is a telepath who tapped into iceman's powers but they were not always omega level. he had to explore his powers only a little to see he was more. his 2nd mutation was that doorway to omega status

 

[gambitfire]

lol too tired too keep up reading so here are my 2 cents, Rogue's powers are limited you all say, well she can absorb powers permanently, so wheres the limit? she keeps the powers, and if the mutant was omega then guess what she's Omega, she was doing some pretty insane stuff in that X-treme issue. IMO she can be OMEGA.

 

[tirminyl]

Rogues power is limited. There is only so many psyches her mind can take before breaking down or having the personalities fight over the body. She has to kill you to gain your power permanently other than that she only keeps it temporarily. She doesn't have the ability to control that mutants power (I have seen this change recently).

All that for me goes to an Alpha. Yes, she is good at what she does but she is limited in what she can do. I see many aren't getting that point.

As for you, rabidfanboy, being tired of Omegas because there are too many...Out of all mutants on planet earth, there are less than 10 Omegas. Reality warpers are not all omegas because they are limited in what they can do. Say an area of 1000ft, While Franklin Richards can create universes and pocket dimensions.

Javon- Rogue, Mimic, and Leech do not have the same power.

1. Rogue absorbs a persons life force, mutant ability, memories and personality traits.
2. Mimic, mimics the mutants ability with a limit of 5. The abilities are also only at half strength.
3. Leech cancels mutants abilities within a certain area.

 

[Nature's Rising]

Rogue cannot be an Omega. If she is, she would have total control over her power. In a sense, being in that level requires you to have complete control over your abilities because that is the skill you need for potential. How can you realize potential when you don't even know how to control your powers? And if she really is on that level, she wouldn't need Sage's help. She is only a high level Alpha at best. But no Omega. SW can alter reality, and she's not even Omega and she has total control over her powers.

People should remember that being Omega is about infinite potential. Look at Elixir, when you look at his powers, you'll wonder the so many things he can possibly do; can he make anybody mutants? Can he restore the powers of people? Can he create his own planet? Can he make a hybrid animal of a lion, dog, and an eagle? Everything is potentially possible for him. While Rogue, she has limits on how and what she absorbs. She can both absorb memory and power wherein having total control of her power should let her distinguish between both and should've stopped her from wearing gloves because she should've total control over her absorption powers. As stated on a lot of posts previously, Omega isn't just about power and how unstoppable you are; it's about limitless potential and control of your mutant powers. As I said, Magneto has massive destructive power and could destroy the planet if he chooses, but is he classified as Omega level? No.

 

[javon]

wOW. Interesting debate.