Miscast Films.

[thealiasman2000]

1-My point being, she actually HAS those powers, unlike Anna Paquin.

2-Must be thinking of a different Stryker, the Stryker I know is black.

3- (begin sarcasm) Yeah, cause we all know 20s are a far cry from teenage years, right? (end sarcasm)

 

[Darthphere]

1-My point being, she actually HAS those powers, unlike Anna Paquin.

2-Must be thinking of a different Stryker, the Stryker I know is black.

3- (begin sarcasm) Yeah, cause we all know 20s are a far cry from teenage years, right? (end sarcasm)

Theres a difference between a high school kid and a college kid, dumbass. The point is Rogue was never a student at the academy. I guess you just choose to ignore the points if they debunk your own ideas.

 

[Octoberist]

I've got "God Loves, Man Kills". Styker is white.

 

[Strange]

Good suggestions...keep em coming. I also need one for voyeurism...as in the audience feels like they should not be watching a particular scene...I know all films are really voyeuristic...but trying to think of a movie where the feeling is more apparent than usual.

For voyeurism, use the Haute tension *********ion scene. That is awesome.

 

[The Kid]

Jessica alba as anything but a dark angel is a miscast.

My view on race is who cares what color the skin is. Like king said, it's the content of their character that counts. That's just me, I don't care about that stuff. If he stuidio made blade latino, I personally wouldn't see how he'd be so different then.

 

[Philly Phanboy]

Hunt for Red october, Sean Connery, couldn`t even pull the accent off half decent!

At least Connery tried. Compare that to the completely laughable performance that Harrison Ford did for K-19: The Widowmaker.

 

[Pink Ranger]

Anthony Hopkins as Richard Nixon: proves that even a great actor has limitations.

Any of Jackie Chan's movies made in the 90s and beyond (especially Drunken Master II): as if we're supposed to believe he's still a swinging, childlike rogue at 40+ and 50+.

Jeff Bridges (voice) in the Last Unicorn--If you're going to make a f!@#ing singing cartoon movie, CAST AN ACTOR WHO CAN F!@#ING SING!!!

 

[The Kid]

Scooby doo was pretty miscast aside from velma and shaggy.

 

[Excel]

adrien brody in kong. bale woulda been way better

 

[DarKush]

Try saying the same of African-Americans and regular Americans.

So, are you saying African-Americans are not regular Americans? What's a 'regular' American?

Kingpin is white in the comics, but I think MCD did pretty well with the role. I can't think of a white actor with the size, acting talent, and menace to pull it off. Alicia Masters is also white, but that role was so small I don't see it being a major deal.

I can assure you that Cleopatra, Nefertiti, Genghis Khan, Old West explorer James Beckworth weren't Northern/WASP Europeans, but they are just three examples of whites playing roles historical figures that were people of color.

 

[The Kid]

Anthony Hopkins as Richard Nixon: proves that even a great actor has limitations.

Any of Jackie Chan's movies made in the 90s and beyond (especially Drunken Master II): as if we're supposed to believe he's still a swinging, childlike rogue at 40+ and 50+.

Jeff Bridges (voice) in the Last Unicorn--If you're going to make a f!@#ing singing cartoon movie, CAST AN ACTOR WHO CAN F!@#ING SING!!!

Hey I think the man is still more agile at his age than practically ever child or monkey on earth.

 

[Pink Ranger]

Hey I think the man is still more agile at his age than practically ever child or monkey on earth.

I'm not saying the old man can't still kick ass, but more often than not, his character lives and behaves like a young man-child (ie. in Drunken Master 2, his "Dad" in that movie even looks the same age as him, if not older). Even Jet-Li plays characters that are grown men, sometimes with children etc.

 

[The Lumberjack]

Try saying the same of African-Americans and regular Americans.

You're such an incredible racist. The greats don't even know they are.

Jesus as Jim Cavizel was miscast. Everyone knows Jesus wasn't white, but then again nobody says anything about Al Pacino playing a Cuban.

 

[The Kid]

I'm not saying the old man can't still kick ass, but more often than not, his character lives and behaves like a young man-child (ie. in Drunken Master 2, his "Dad" in that movie even looks the same age as him, if not older). Even Jet-Li plays characters that are grown men, sometimes with children etc.

oh I see. ur right.

 

[JackBauer]

You're such an incredible racist. The greats don't even know they are.

Jesus as Jim Cavizel was miscast. Everyone knows Jesus wasn't white, but then again nobody says anything about Al Pacino playing a Cuban.

race is a problem when it's convenient to him...

 

[thealiasman2000]

1-So saying that white people have a different skin color than black people (as opposed to Europeans Vs Americans) is being racist? How so?

2-When Stan Lee (or whoever) created The Kingpin, he made him white. I don't know WHY, but he did it.

Thus, a BLACK actor playing him is not true to the comics.

3-Jesus was not black. Cubans are NOT black. Egyptians are (mostly) not black.

There's a difference between nationality and skin color.

4-Face it, if a white person was casted as Lucius Fox in "Batman Begins", you would all be crying bloody murder.

 

[Darthphere]

1-So saying that white people have a different skin color than black people (as opposed to Europeans Vs Americans) is being racist? How so?

It just is.

2-When Stan Lee (or whoever) created The Kingpin, he made him white. I don't know WHY, but he did it.

Thus, a BLACK actor playing him is not true to the comics.

Because at the time there were only a handful of black characters and brown ink was low.


3-Jesus was not black. Cubans are NOT black. Egyptians are (mostly) not black.

There's a difference between nationality and skin color.

Nobody said cubans were black, and unless you were around Galilee back in the day theres no way of you knowing Jesus skin color.

4-Face it, if a white person was casted as Lucius Fox in "Batman Begins", you would all be crying bloody murder.

Not really, hes another character in which race isnt a factor.

 

[The Chairman]

Outsiders

The Outsiders had an awesome cast.

Arnold as Freeze and Katie Holmes as Rachel Dawes come to mind. So does Jim Carrey as The Riddler, Jessica Alba as Nancy, and pretty much everyone in Batman Forever and Batman & Robin (except Michael Gough).

 

[DarKush]

1-So saying that white people have a different skin color than black people (as opposed to Europeans Vs Americans) is being racist? How so?

My problem with the sentiment wasn't a notice of racial differences, but this distinction between African Americans and regular Americans. What does that mean? To me, it seems the poster considers African Americans as different from regular Americans, which I'm assuming he/she means white or Euro-Americans. That blacks are alien in some fashion. And I think that is fallacious.

2-When Stan Lee (or whoever) created The Kingpin, he made him white. I don't know WHY, but he did it.

Kingpin was created during a time when most comic characters-heroes and villians-were white. The black gangster, for good or ill, has become a prevalent image onscreen, in both TV and film. Who's to say that if Kingpin was created today he wouldn't have been black?

Thus, a BLACK actor playing him is not true to the comics.

Name me one movie that has faithfully adapted a comic book or novel, character for character or word for word? I can't think of one. The color change didn't matter to me because the essentials of the character were pretty much there.

3-Jesus was not black. Cubans are NOT black. Egyptians are (mostly) not black.

Egyptians today are mostly not black. You are not taking into account the migrations and invasions of many different powers from the Middle East and Europe for centuries. There were descriptions by ancient Greeks of the Egyptians being a dark-skinned, black people. Plus, the 25th Dynasty was a black dynasty. Egypt's close location to Ethiopia (ancient Axum and Kush) definitely would lead one to assume that black people played a more integral part in Egyptian life, culture, etc. than what we have seen on TV or in movies. I didn't see much outrage when the very pale Rachel Weisz played black Nefertiti in the Mummy Returns.

As for Jesus, I believe his Biblical description doesn't discount that he could've been black. Also, I am sure he wasn't pale skinned like he is in almost every movie.

And there are black Cubans.

There's a difference between nationality and skin color.

4-Face it, if a white person was casted as Lucius Fox in "Batman Begins", you would all be crying bloody murder.

Lucius Fox is such a minor, token character that I doubt most fans would even know he was black. And he isn't that essential to the Batman mythos so I really doubt it would cause much of an outrage.

 

[Sundancer]

Take the racism arguments elsewhere. It's been done to death since Daredevil was released.


More miscasting--

I think it works, but some people have argued Tiny "Zeus" Lister as the president in The 5th Element.

Dennis Rodman in Double Team--athletes can't necessarily act!

Pam Anderson in Barb Wire

I agree with the guys talking about Jessica Alba and the Bond scientists

Bruce Lee in Chinese Connection (US title)--great fights, but he's seriously overacting.

The new guy playing Dumbledore--very little of the calm control, Dumbleodore has!


What are the details of your presentation? It sounds interesting.

 

[The Lumberjack]

1-So saying that white people have a different skin color than black people (as opposed to Europeans Vs Americans) is being racist? How so?

What was racist was insinuating that black people aren't "regular" americans.

 

[black_dust]

At least Connery tried. Compare that to the completely laughable performance that Harrison Ford did for K-19: The Widowmaker.

This one was also in the back of my mind!

 

[cerealkiller182]

Theres a lot of ppl in an uproar about white characters made black for film. Not that I have a problem with it, but there is also the idea floating around that if a black character was changed white then ppl would be mad.

Exhibit A: My only exhibit
From Spawn the character Terry (black character) played by DB Sweeney (white actor)

I wish I had a better example, but here it is. I dont think, although, i dont really remember a lot of hate toward this decision.

 

[Obi-Ron]

Mos Def was miscast as Ford Prefect.
Nothing to do with race, I just think he was totally lame.

 

[Morgoth]

1-It's the same as making Luke Cage white in a Power Man movie.

2-I don't know jack about the comics, huh? I know enough to say that both The Kingpin and Alicia Masters are white, General Stryker is black and his son is dead, John Constantine is a blonde Britishman and Chaz CHANDLER is not some teenage kid, Rogue has NEVER been middle-aged and she can fly and has super-strength, Nancy Callahan is not afraid to sjow herself nude and The Invisible Woman is NOT a whiny ******...

So true!