Nell2ThaIzzay
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I take no offense to it, your's is just a different opinion (wrong, I might add
- I kid I kid)The reason I say that is because Stryker obviously sees mutants as nothing more than lab rats in X2. "Oh, they serve their purpose, as long as they can be controlled". As long as he can have control over them, they are useful. If he cannot, then they must be exterminated. He obviously sees them as lesser being, as nothing more than animals.
Now, I do agree that there is some obvious hint to Logan's past in that line, although I do believe there is a lot of Stryker's manipulation in there as well.
Okay, okay, I'll admit, Wolverine could have been a bit more viscous, but I don't think that Logan is -not- an animal in this movie. I mean, sure, we don't see him ripping out people's guts in bloody fashion, but I also don't think we need to.
The movie is meant to take place in a fantasized real world setting. It's not as far out there as the comic books are. We see Logan being "an animal" in 3 movies already. He lives as a cage fighter, living like a nomad, probably living off of whatever scraps he can scrounge. Sounds kind of like an animal to me. He blindly attacks Jean Grey as she is actually trying to nurse him back to health, nearly choking her. He violently awakens from a dream, stabbing Rogue through the chest. This is all just in X-Men.
In X-Men 2 we see his berserker rage for the first time as Stryker's soldiers attack the mansion. We see that same berserker rage again in X-Men 3 when we has that violent fight in the forest against Magneto's minions.
So we've seen him being an animal, we know how violent he can be if he allows himself to give into his nature.
I mean, and really, we see it in Wolverine too. Maybe it's not as much as people would like, but it's -THERE-.
Throughout the course of how many years is it, he's fighting in 4 different wars. He's become so jaded to war and violence that he's puffing on a cigar as he's getting off the boats on the beaches of Normandy. Sure, he wouldn't be worried about dying himself, but he's obviously not concerned with the lives of his fellow soldiers, nor the lives that he is about to take in combat. I mean, he's standing right next to some young kid who's probably no older than 18, who's obviously scared ****less, and all Logan can do is give a look like "whatever" and take a drag off his cigar.
We also see it when he lines up side by side with his brother to take out his fellow soldiers in the jungles of Vietnam.
Logan then also joins up with Stryker's team, and becomes an accompliss to some rather bad things. The slaughter of innocent villiagers, all over what amounts to a rock in his eyes?
But that's the point. That he is -not- an animal. Creed is the animal. Creed embraces it, and wants to be the animal. Logan doesn't. We've seen what he is capable of, and he gives into it whenever he brawls against Creed, but the point is that he's fighting against it.
Logan becomes so blinded and consumed by rage that after seeing the love of his life "murdered", he does nothing but seek out Creed to enact his vengeance, which he loses in a rather brutal and animalistic fight. He joins up again with Stryker, a man who he doesn't trust, simply out of revenge. He pretty brutally murders Agent Zero, both in self defense and in retribution for what happens to the Hudsons.
I see the talk of "animal" as 2 things:
1. Manipulation by Stryker and Creed. They -want- him to give in to what he is capable of being, for their own personal gain.
2. Logan is a very dangerous person.
And he is. Logan is one of the most dangerous characters in the X-Men universe, and the movies have captured that. An indestructable man, with insane regenerative powers who has a bit of a temper tantrum? Logan is -dangerous-, like an animal. If Logan doesn't control himself, he can be a very major threat to whomever he encounters. And he is a very dangerous threat to those that he encounters. He has been throughout 4 movies.
But Creed thrives off of his powers, and how dangerous he can be. So he becomes a ruthless stalker / murderer, just like in the comics.
Creed and Logan aren't literally "animals". It's metaphors for how dangerous they are, and how much more dangerous they can be if they give into their urges.
Creed and Logan aren't possessed by some animal demons that they have to supress or else they become mindless killing machines, and it seems to me like that's all people want. I have NEVER in my life seen Logan like that at all. I've always seen him as a very dangerous man, that if he does give into his rage, will deal out some very heavy damage, and there will be casualties. But he's not some blind raging animal that can't be contained because he's madly possessed.
