It never was higher than 4th at the box office?
That doesn't matter nor does it change the fact that it did solid business when everyone had already written it off?
Evan Almighty opened to #1 two years ago and yet it was a flop. So your "point" is pointless?
Haha! each to their own but you're the first Ive heard say they liked Mi:2 more.
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It pulled in $85 million domestically and $200 million worldwide after everyone had written it off as a flop?
The opening weekend projections had it earning around $18 million when it actually grossed $30 million?
It never was higher than 4th at the box office?
That doesn't matter nor does it change the fact that it did solid business when everyone had already written it off?
Evan Almighty opened to #1 two years ago and yet it was a flop. So your "point" is pointless?
How was everyone writing it off? It got 60% at RT? That's pretty good.
But stating saying "Cruise is coming back" is kinda an exaggeration. He's still a name but he hasn't necessarily shaken off the "joke" status.
Before the film was released, most people had already written it off as a box-office flop and a critical turkey. It turned out to be neither. I've been saying that the whole time. Where did you miss that?
You said "everybody" was saying it was going to flop.
I merely stated how I had doubts about carrying a blockbuster. Valkyrie was hardly a blockbuster in any sense of the word. And like I've been saying, he's still a name and he's still semi popular, but I still think he has a stigma to him that may prevent him to carry a blockbuster for the foreseeable future.
"Everyone" had written it off - as in the press. All one has to do is google news-items on Valkyrie during it's shoot back in 2007 and the constant date-shifts to see?
So it's not that out there to say that that's what you were referring to, whether it was a general consensus, the public or even critics.
I wasn't changing the subject, I was simply clarifying what you meant, if you want to argue semantics, it's still the same general conversation and honestly off tangent off my initial post.And I was pretty clear in my posts. All you keep doing is change the subject.
"Oh, Valkyrie wasn't a surprise hit. Wait, it got horrible press for a year but still wound up making $200 million - more than everyone said it would? Well...it didn't go past the #4 spot so it wasn't a hit!" Oh wait...there are films that were flops that opened to #1? Well...what do you mean by 'everyone?'" etc.
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I always thought that was in reference to the messageboards there.
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