The Dark Knight More from Ledger

[moonraker]

This doesn't change my opinion at all. I hate MOST comic book movies too, and I think Batman Begins is the best one yet.

 

[Cinemaman]

He hates comic book movies, BUT he liked BB and that is why he wants to play Joker. And guys, lets talk seriously, there is great number os superhero movies, which sucked.

He isn't going to show off another Nicholson's Joker. He wants to create a new version, which wasn't shown earlier.

And I like his thoughts about Joker as similar figure to the main character from "A Clockwork Orange".

 

[Shedhut]

Whoa, so many people hating superheroe movies are becoming members of a site devoted to superhero movies or making big roles in superhero movies.

I think most people oin these boards are more Comic-fans than anything else. Of course these people know about the huge movie potential many comics carry inside. So i think the point of most people coming here is more to investigate how their favourite panels translate onto screen than non-restrictively praise the comicbook-movies we have so far.

Movies I was looking forward to:

-spiderman
-hulk
-daredevil
-batman
-(even)elektra(in a way)
-f4
-superman

Movies I acctually liked:

-batman begins (although not copletely)
-hellboy (partially)

and as stated before:
Ledger didnt bash the Comics but what is mostly done to them translated to film!

...and well, I couldnt agree more

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

And I thought the whole movie was excellent.

Besides, if we look at other superhero movies (like Spider-man for example), there is more lameness than in BB.

Nah, I liked the Spider-Man movies far more than Batman Begins, I like Batman Begins and will see the second one though.

Not saying that my opinion is law but I'm not the first one to say that the movie fell apart in the second half and I aint gonna be the last.

 

[Shedhut]

imo Spiderman fell apart in the opening credits compared to Begins .

 

[Cinemaman]

Nah, I liked the Spider-Man movies far more than Batman Begins, I like Batman Begins and will see the second one though.

Not saying that my opinion is law but I'm not the first one to say that the movie fell apart in the second half and I aint gonna be the last.

I was expecting this from you, Spidey-fan

And I am not the first or last one, who thought that BB was the best superhero movie.

Spidey didn't have anything better in script, and I didn't mention how crappy was GG suit.

Besides, Raimi also used Burton's formula in storytelling of both superhero and villian, and that's not so good. But in BB we see only Batman as the main character in storytelling.

 

[ultimatefan]

I think most people oin these boards are more Comic-fans than anything else. Of course these people know about the huge movie potential many comics carry inside. So i think the point of most people coming here is more to investigate how their favourite panels translate onto screen than non-restrictively praise the comicbook-movies we have so far.

Movies I was looking forward to:

-spiderman
-hulk
-daredevil
-batman
-(even)elektra(in a way)
-f4
-superman

Movies I acctually liked:

-batman begins (although not copletely)
-hellboy (partially)

and as stated before:
Ledger didnt bash the Comics but what is mostly done to them translated to film!

...and well, I couldnt agree more

You seem like a particularly hard fan to please, not that in itself is either a good or bad thing. People just have different tastes, that´s all.

 

[Shedhut]

You seem like a particularly hard fan to please, not that in itself is either a good or bad thing. People just have different tastes, that´s all.

different tastes of course but foremost different expectations. Compared to the potential of the source materials all the above listed films failed (not only) in visual execution.

 

[neobido9999]

http://batman-on-film.com/batmovienews.html

Ledger on The Joker & Bale: No To The Same "Old Road"
Author: Jett
Monday, September 11, 2006 - 10:17 AM: Heath Ledger actually "F'n HATES" comic book movies, but he digs The Joker. Read more (via DARK HORIZONS:

"I actually hate comic book movies, like f***ing hate them, they just bore me sh**less and they're just dumb.

Lets be honest chums, there are a lot of crap comic books/comic book films. A lot.

He sounds like he's going to do a good job, obviously looking for something more than just a comic book flick, and, yet again, highly impressed with Nolan

 

[ultimatefan]

different tastes of course but foremost different expectations. Compared to the potential of the source materials all the above listed films failed in visual execution.

Well, it also depends on how each one perceives the materials. I notice some fans dislike a lot certain aspects of these movies that actually can be found quite a bit in the comic books. All these characters have had different takes over the years.

 

[Cinemaman]

Comic book movies, which sucked (IMO):
- Fantastic Four
- Batman&Robin
- Catwoman
- Superman IV
- Superman III
- Batman Forever
- Elektra
- Daredevil
- Hellboy
- Spawn
- Hulk
- The Punisher
- Supergirl
- Swamp Thing
- Swamp Thing 2

Comic book movies, which ruled (again IMO)
- Batman Begins
- Spidey 2
- Superman Returns
- Superman: The Movie
- Batman Returns
- Batman'89
- Spidey 1
- X-Men
- X2
- Superman II
- Sin City
- The Mask

12 good movies and 15 bad, so I'd agree with Ledger about this.

Superhero movies are predictable, a bit boring, but some of them look very good.

 

[neobido9999]

But the fact he finds them boring is hilarious to me. I mean...he starred in Brokeback Mountain.

WHat a strange comment. Are you a republican?

 

[neobido9999]

Comic book movies, which sucked (IMO):
- Fantastic Four
- Batman&Robin
- Catwoman
- Superman IV
- Superman III
- Batman Forever
- Elektra
- Daredevil
- Hellboy
- Spawn
- Hulk
- The Punisher
- Supergirl
- Swamp Thing
- Swamp Thing 2

Comic book movies, which ruled (again IMO)
- Batman Begins
- Spidey 2
- Superman Returns
- Superman: The Movie
- Batman Returns
- Batman'89
- Spidey 1
- X-Men
- X2
- Superman II
- Sin City
- Mask

12 good movies and 14 bad, so I'd agree with Ledger about this.

Superhero movies are predictable, a bit boring, but some of them look very good.

Good comic book movies:

Batman Begins
Superman
Spiderman 2

Bad Comic Book Movies
- Fantastic Four
- Batman&Robin
- Catwoman
- Superman IV
- Superman III
- Batman Forever
- Elektra
- Daredevil
- Hellboy
- Spawn
- Hulk
- The Punisher
- Supergirl
- Swamp Thing
- Swamp Thing 2
- Batman Returns
- Batman'89
- X-Men
- X2
- Superman II
- Sin City
- Mask

Bsically Ledger is saying he doens't want this to be some tie-in, officail computer game-ised, happy meal friendly, genre movie crap. He wants it to be *gasp& a real movie

He rules.

 

[ultimatefan]

No offense. Not saying I don't believe the Ledge, but we have no idea if he ACTUALLY likes BB. And if I disliked BB but got offered to play the Joker and the last perosn to play him as Jack Nicholson? I'd take it

I´m not sure what you mean. If it were, like, PR crap, hed´have to remember that a lot of Batman fans also enjoy other comic book movies. The guy says he likes BB, and it´s not like he´s desperate for work after being nominated for an Oscar for a successful movie.

 

[The Kid]

imo Spiderman fell apart in the opening credits compared to Begins .

owned.

And true. Those credits put me to sleep every time.

 

[The Bruce]

And I thought the whole movie was excellent.

Besides, if we look at other superhero movies (like Spider-man for example), there is more lameness than in BB.

Spider-man 2 while having great fight scenes bored the ***** outta me

 

[Bad Superman]

http://batman-on-film.com/batmovienews.html

Ledger on The Joker & Bale: No To The Same "Old Road"
Author: Jett
Monday, September 11, 2006 - 10:17 AM: Heath Ledger actually "F'n HATES" comic book movies, but he digs The Joker. Read more (via DARK HORIZONS:

"I actually hate comic book movies, like f***ing hate them, they just bore me sh**less and they're just dumb. But I thought what Chris Nolan did with [BATMAN BEGINS] was actually really good, really well directed, and Christian Bale was really great in it."

"He's going to be really sinister and it's going to be less about his laugh and his pranks and more about just him being a just a f***ing sinister guy."

[Asked if he decides to do a big movie like this, because of agent pressure.] "I'm sure they're super happy that I'm doing this [THE DARK KNIGHT], because this is the first time I've really kind of taken something like that, so they're over the moon. But I think it's just going to be a really fun experience, and I love to dress up and wear a mask."

[How will his Joker look?] "I've seen a few interesting designs on the look and I think that it's going to look pretty cool."

Thanks to "Brock" for the lead...

original source: :http://www.darkhorizons.com/news06/ledger.php

I really hope he was talking about make up and prosthetics. . . .

 

[The Bruce]

Have you ever pranced in the moonshine?

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

I'm not even going to ask where you got that.......

 

[El Payaso]

True. But I like the way ledger owned all comic book fans. He didn't just say he don't read the comics, he said he f-ing hates them and thinks they are boring and dumb. Now that is LEDGEOWNED!

???

Ok: I actually hate Ledger movies, like f***ing hate him, he just bores me sh**less and he's just dumb.

I guess under your perspective I owned Ledger? Poor.

What I got from his comment was basically "All other comic films sucked, compared to Batman Begins," which is why he took the part.

It is such a predictable thing to say for an actor; 'Oh I hate all directors but THIS ONE is the best ever and more interesting', 'I don't like children movies buty THIS ONE is going to blow you people away.' It's the classic goody goody thing to say to kiss the a**es of the ones who are hiring you. I'm used that many actors and directors do this with their movies and roles, but this guy took that crap to another level.

Batman Begins is a film based on a comic book hero, not so much a "comic book film," in that it refrains from being overly cliche' and hokey.

BB is as cliché as any other superhero movie, with love interest, half movie for oprigin half movie for the first case, the wise moral line 'why do we fall?', the girl knowing the secret identity near the ending, the villiain gasing people and calling 'gentlemen' to his henchmen, bad one-liners, etc, etc, etc. In BB case I can't say there's ANYTHING wrong with that, but it's not like BB is totally atypical respect of clichés.

He hates comic book movies, BUT he liked BB and that is why he wants to play Joker. And guys, lets talk seriously, there is great number os superhero movies, which sucked.

And so many which doesn't suck. It's not like he said 'some movies' or even 'most movies.'

He isn't going to show off another Nicholson's Joker. He wants to create a new version, which wasn't shown earlier.

But that's basically what every actor and director wants to do, or at least what they always say.

Bsically Ledger is saying he doens't want this to be some tie-in, officail computer game-ised, happy meal friendly, genre movie crap. He wants it to be *gasp& a real movie

He rules.

Not all comic movies are like that.

Basically every person - fans specially - think they are the only persons to know exactly how to do the perfect movie. Since we all think that it is so pretentious to state it publicly.

Not even one person here has posted a list of all superhero movies except BB, saying 'this is the list of comic book movies I hate.' If somebody does it would be really stupid to come here everyday to start with... or for that mater, to accept a role in one of those 'despicable' movies. He rules idiotville.

Have you ever pranced in the moonshine?

Now THAT's owning. Literally

 

[Hades]

**** it takes the smallest thing to get you guys all neurotic.

Agreed. They're like the munchins in the Wizard of Oz

You people need to stop taking everything so literal.

 

[Poetic Chaos]

Perfect post El Payaso.

 

[darknight7]

if he was going to be wearing an actual mask, they wouldn't have cast Heath Ledger.

nicely said

--dk7

 

[darknight7]

He's supposed to be sinister through his pranks and laugh. Might as well just call him Jack rather than Joker the way Ledger makes the character out to be.

Ya I know, I hate how they are saying that he isn't going to be a laugher or a prankster.

Because the point is, the Joker is suposed to find fun in his own sick ways. So if he is just a clown who kills, that sucks. He has to smile, he has to laugh, he has to extremely enjoy his kills. He has to have fun, and enjoy watch people die, blow up, spray blood, burn. etc. He is sick, psychotic. He is a NUT! Not some clown who murders, he is a clown who ENJOYS murder.

--dk7

 

[zer00]

WHat a strange comment. Are you a republican?

Are you an idiot?

I´m not sure what you mean. If it were, like, PR crap, hed´have to remember that a lot of Batman fans also enjoy other comic book movies. The guy says he likes BB, and it´s not like he´s desperate for work after being nominated for an Oscar for a successful movie.

The thing that gets me. Is Ledger says he hates all comic book movies. Now suddenly(not everyone, it's a very small minorty) are saying "Yeah most comic book movies do suck."