The Dark Knight More from Ledger

[Gold Samurai]

I have a feeling were gonna get more vocal quotes from ledger.................

now wheres that picture of a group of fans.........


Michelle williams and ledger make a good harley quinn and joker

 

[zer00]

If Joker was a bit overweight and was drunk.

 

[Cinemaman]

It is such a predictable thing to say for an actor; 'Oh I hate all directors but THIS ONE is the best ever and more interesting', 'I don't like children movies buty THIS ONE is going to blow you people away.' It's the classic goody goody thing to say to kiss the a**es of the ones who are hiring you. I'm used that many actors and directors do this with their movies and roles, but this guy took that crap to another level.

Actually, BB was really very good movie and I doubt Ledger is one of actors, who do this. Besides, I also can understand why you are so negative about this interview, and you know why? Because you don't like everything, what has any connection with BB. Isn't this tuth?

BB is as cliché as any other superhero movie, with love interest, half movie for oprigin half movie for the first case, the wise moral line 'why do we fall?', the girl knowing the secret identity near the ending, the villiain gasing people and calling 'gentlemen' to his henchmen, bad one-liners, etc, etc, etc. In BB case I can't say there's ANYTHING wrong with that, but it's not like BB is totally atypical respect of clichés.

No, no! BB had one thing, which didn't have other superhero movie. It had much bigger speculation of psychological aspect in the movie. Besides, it had excellent cast and very good storytelling. At nowadays, you can find hundreds of people, who can say that BB was one of the best movies in it's genre aka superhero/comick book movie. Just look at other superhero movies. They didn't have this.

And so many which doesn't suck. It's not like he said 'some movies' or even 'most movies.'

Well, as I said, there are more bad than good comic book movies. BTW, he explained why he doesn't like comic book movies. And you know why? Because of predictable and boring storytelling, which didn't have BB.

But that's basically what every actor and director wants to do, or at least what they always say.

Yep, but the difference is in Nolan. He is one of directors, who do what they say. The same can go to Ledger and his take on the role (A Clockwork Orange Joker? Hell Yeah! ).

 

[Spidey_Zombie]

I *****ing hate Gay Ledger... But i'll still be seeing this movie probally.

 

[darknight7]

I think Ledger should read Arkham Asylym and The Killing Joke. Obviously there is much more material, but those 2 books are incredible, especially in showing the Joker's sick and twisted personality.

--dk7

 

[HughJackFan420]

who thinks Heath Ledger should go F***!!!! himself for hating comic book movies??

 

[ultimatefan]

Actually, BB was really very good movie and I doubt Ledger is one of actors, who do this. Besides, I also can understand why you are so negative about this interview, and you know why? Because you don't like everything, what has any connection with BB. Isn't this tuth?



No, no! BB had one thing, which didn't have other superhero movie. It had much bigger speculation of psychological aspect in the movie. Besides, it had excellent cast and very good storytelling. At nowadays, you can find hundreds of people, who can say that BB was one of the best movies in it's genre aka superhero/comick book movie. Just look at other superhero movies. They didn't have this.



Well, as I said, there are more bad than good comic book movies. BTW, he explained why he doesn't like comic book movies. And you know why? Because of predictable and boring storytelling, which didn't have BB.



Yep, but the difference is in Nolan. He is one of directors, who do what they say. The same can go to Ledger and his take on the role (A Clockwork Orange Joker? Hell Yeah! ).

Don´t bother, the guy even admits to be here for trolling.

 

[LadyVader]

Could everybody just stop talking trash about comic book movies. God. Comic book movies are one thing and superhero movies are another thing entirely. There are comic book movies that are not superhero related and there are superhero movies that are NOT comic book based. Saying they all suck is ignorant and intolerant, no matter what spin you put on it. I don't want Ledger to change his opinions, they're his opinions. All i want him to do is show a little respect to the fanbase, which has been pretty accepting of him.

 

[Shedhut]

Well, it also depends on how each one perceives the materials. I notice some fans dislike a lot certain aspects of these movies that actually can be found quite a bit in the comic books. All these characters have had different takes over the years.

i understand and agree with what you say. But I think you can also agree with me when I say that all these movies failed to translate the mood of their roots correctly.
i.e. I missed the iconic shots of Batman in Begins. What came close was Bats sittin on the skyscraper. nevertheless the shot didnt come close to something like :

at all. And it would have been possible. I got the chills once when I saw it on the Smallville preview but not a second time throughout the whole film. Furthermore Begins seemed too patched together imo.

 

[Katsuro]

Rawr!! This guy has differnt opinions on me about movies!! He sucks!!! He was in a gay movie!!!

^That's you guys.

 

[Spidey_Zombie]

Rawr!! This guy has differnt opinions on me about movies!! He sucks!!! He was in a gay movie!!!

^That's you guys.

Your point being?

 

[El Payaso]

Actually, BB was really very good movie and I doubt Ledger is one of actors, who do this. Besides, I also can understand why you are so negative about this interview, and you know why? Because you don't like everything, what has any connection with BB. Isn't this tuth?

???

Let's see, I state that what Ledger said was very bootlicker and you go 'BB is so good, you are a negative guy.' ??? What does BB to do with this?

1.- I haven't being negative at all about TDK and never have been. If you don't like people who talks about BB's flaws, get used to real life.
2.- I have stated in numberless threads and posts how good BB is in spite of flaws.

Your words show this projection case of yours; I haven't been negative on TDK movie - just on Ledger attitude - but you claim I have been, that way you can focus on your hatred against people who disagree with you. So, you hate - and make this personal - but call other people haters.

No, no! BB had one thing, which didn't have other superhero movie. It had much bigger speculation of psychological aspect in the movie. Besides, it had excellent cast and very good storytelling. At nowadays, you can find hundreds of people, who can say that BB was one of the best movies in it's genre aka superhero/comick book movie. Just look at other superhero movies. They didn't have this.

BB had all what you say and even more. But clichés too, which was my only point.

I quote myself on this: "In BB case I can't say there's ANYTHING wrong with that, but it's not like BB is totally atypical respect of clichés." - how negative dude!

Again lots of words as a smokescreen couldn't hide the fact you couldn't prove me wrong.

Well, as I said, there are more bad than good comic book movies. BTW, he explained why he doesn't like comic book movies. And you know why? Because of predictable and boring storytelling, which didn't have BB.

I agree, there are far more bad superhero movies than good. Your point?

Here's mine: you can't go and work in a comic book movie but disrespect the very genre - and in passing the fans of that genre - by saying that all of those movies suck big time and adorning that baseless words with some cursewords. No matter how many comic book movies suck, you don't disrespect the whole genre with vulgarities specially when you're working in that very genre. That makes him a cynical.

Yep, but the difference is in Nolan. He is one of directors, who do what they say. The same can go to Ledger and his take on the role (A Clockwork Orange Joker? Hell Yeah! ).

Yeah, Nolan is very much like that. Too bad we were specfically talking about Ledger, not Nolan at all. Smokescreen again.

And Ledger can quote Orange Clockwork or 2001 if he wants. Any artist words worth nothing (unless you're a writer) but his actual work. How many terrible directors that gave us terrible superhero movies talked a lot about how great his movie and characters were - supposedly - going to be? Easiest thing on Earth to state your work's gonna be awesome.


EDITED for crappy grammar.

 

[Boom]

Here's something I thought was interesting in the interview. Prior to his comments about The Joker, Ledger had this to say:

""Matilda is just awesome and being a father has also helped me become even more selective now with work because for me, to go away from home for a day, let alone five, is tough.""

"But he also admits almost shyly, that his nomination has opened up even more doors."

""I think there’s a new level of interest kind of thing but I haven’t really acted on it, since the only thing I’ve really done since is this Todd Haynes film and The Joker.""

He admits that despite being offered alot of roles now that he is an oscar nominee, he is extremely selective of his projects because of family. However, of all the roles he's been offered, one of the two he chose happens to be The Joker.

That's a bit comforting.

 

[Shedhut]

Here's something I thought was interesting in the interview. Prior to his comments about The Joker, Ledger had this to say:

""Matilda is just awesome and being a father has also helped me become even more selective now with work because for me, to go away from home for a day, let alone five, is tough.""

"But he also admits almost shyly, that his nomination has opened up even more doors."

""I think there’s a new level of interest kind of thing but I haven’t really acted on it, since the only thing I’ve really done since is this Todd Haynes film and The Joker.""

He admits that despite being offered alot of roles now that he is an oscar nominee, he is extremely selective of his projects because of family. However, of all the roles he's been offered, one of the two he chose happens to be The Joker.

That's a bit comforting.

That proves just how much the role means to him. He could just say screw you because he wouldnt loose any reputation but he treats the film as an high-class project.
btw Kinski almost hated each production he worked in but gave many of the best performances on film (not that I think this is a reasonable comparison)

 

[Seen]

Whoa, so many people hating superheroe movies are becoming members of a site devoted to superhero movies or making big roles in superhero movies.

I only post in the forums of superhero movies that I actually like.

 

[El Payaso]

^ Ok, I still admire your self-sacrifice feeling.

 

[batman44]

A little more from Ledger, I wonder what plan they have for the Joker.
http://batman-on-film.com/batmovienews.html

 

[Cinemaman]

???

Let's see, I state that what Ledger said was very bootlicker and you go 'BB is so good, you are a negative guy.' ??? What does BB to do with this?

1.- I haven't being negative at all about TDK and never have been. If you don't like people who talks about BB's flaws, get used to real life.
2.- I have stated in numberless threads and posts how good BB is in spite of flaws.

Your words show this projection case of yours; I haven't been negative on TDK movie - just on Ledger attitude - but you claim I have been, that way you can focus on your hatred against people who disagree with you. So, you hate - and make this personal - but call other people haters.

Uhh, no. But after reeading every your new post, you just sound like man, who hated BB.

Besides, I like to listen different opinions. That doesn't mean, that I can't argue with people, who have them.

BB had all what you say and even more. But clichés too, which was my only point.

I quote myself on this: "In BB case I can't say there's ANYTHING wrong with that, but it's not like BB is totally atypical respect of clichés." - how negative dude!

Again lots of words as a smokescreen couldn't hide the fact you couldn't prove me wrong.

If you re-watch movies other superhero movies, you'll find even more cliche's scenes.

I agree, there are far more bad superhero movies than good. Your point?

Here's mine: you can't go and work in a comic book movie but disrespect the very genre - and in passing the fans of that genre - by saying that all of those movies suck big time and adorning that baseless words with some cursewords. No matter how many comic book movies suck, you don't disrespect the whole genre with vulgarities specially when you're working in that very genre. That makes him a cynical.

If he said that all comic book movies sucked, then yes. BUT he mentione BB as the only one good movie among others. This is his personal opinion, not start of promoting TDK.

Yeah, Nolan is very much like that. Too bad we were specfically talking about Ledger, not Nolan at all. Smokescreen again.

And Ledger can quote Orange Clockwork or 2001 if he wants. Any artist words worth nothing (unless you're a writer) but his actual work. How many terrible directors that gave us terrible superhero movies talked a lot about how great his movie and characters were - supposedly - going to be? Easiest thing on Earth to state your work's gonna be awesome.


EDITED for crappy grammar.

Uhh, as I said, Nolan has already proved himself as director with right choices of actor for roles in his movies.

Ratner didn't do this (X3 was his 1st superhero movie), Story didn't do this and Scumacher didn't do this.

 

[Boom]

Here's the MSN article that batman44 just posted:

It's Ledger's next role as Batman's nemesis The Joker in Chris Nolan's "The Dark Knight" that has fanboys' tongues wagging. Ledger says he hasn't paid attention to the scuttlebutt on the Web about his casting and wasn't that surprised to get the offer from Nolan.

"When he explained to me the angle he wanted to take, I was like, 'Yeah, I could do that,'" Ledger says. "[Nolan's] going to make it a lot more sinister, and we've got a little plan for him, but it's exciting. Any opportunity to don a mask is always exciting to me."

[BATMAN (1989)] was dominated by Jack Nicholson's acclaimed performance as the psychotic villain, but Ledger isn't intimidated by his predecessor's turn.

"I love, love, love what Nicholson did," Ledger says. "[But] his performance was catering to the style of directing the movie was made under. It was a Tim Burton film. It wasn't Chris Nolan."

 

[ultimatefan]

Which is what he was saying, that Jack played well what he was given to play, but they want to do something different.

 

[El Payaso]

Uhh, no. But after reeading every your new post, you just sound like man, who hated BB.

Link me please. I have never stated I hate or dislike BB. Just that it had flaws that ruined a part of it for me. Other than that it's you trying to push the hatred into the argument.

Besides, I like to listen different opinions. That doesn't mean, that I can't argue with people, who have them.

Then please refer to the points and arguments, not the person.

If you re-watch movies other superhero movies, you'll find even more cliche's scenes.

Lots more.

And still it wasn't my point at all - I didn't say BB has more clichés but just that BB has the usual kind of clichés - so this is useless.

If he said that all comic book movies sucked, then yes. BUT he mentione BB as the only one good movie among others. This is his personal opinion, not start of promoting TDK.

Yes. What a cosmic coincidence he said this right after he was hired to be in a comic book movie.

Uhh, as I said, Nolan has already proved himself as director with right choices of actor for roles in his movies.

Yes baby. I was talking about Ledger.

Ratner didn't do this (X3 was his 1st superhero movie), Story didn't do this and Scumacher didn't do this.

Once again, I admit Nolan is like that and I have never questioned it. I just said that everyone talks like that and therefore someone like Ledger saying something means nothing until is done.

 

[DorkyFresh]

i.e. I missed the iconic shots of Batman in Begins. What came close was Bats sittin on the skyscraper. nevertheless the shot didnt come close to something like

you missed these shots?

the 2nd one is kinda hard to see but it's the shot of Batman clinging to the side of a building with his cape flowing everywhere. that's 3 iconic shots in the movie. how many more do you need?

 

[Cinemaman]

Link me please. I have never stated I hate or dislike BB. Just that it had flaws that ruined a part of it for me. Other than that it's you trying to push the hatred into the argument.

From what I read, you hate almost every aspect in this movie. But I can be wrong, and you just don't like them.

Then please refer to the points and arguments, not the person.

I was arguing with you, but now it just sound like argue with you as the main toppic of it.

Lots more.

And still it wasn't my point at all - I didn't say BB has more clichés but just that BB has the usual kind of clichés - so this is useless.

Yes, BB has them. But as I said, BB has more positive aspects than any another superhero movie IMO.

Yes. What a cosmic coincidence he said this right after he was hired to be in a comic book movie.

Oh, so you wanted to hear this from him 2-3 years ago, right?

Yes baby. I was talking about Ledger.

Uhh... You know what... Nevermind, you won't even understand this.

Once again, I admit Nolan is like that and I have never questioned it. I just said that everyone talks like that and therefore someone like Ledger saying something means nothing until is done.

Ledger just put in that interview his thoughts and what Joker we are going to see. He also said that after talking with Nolan he understood and was agreed with his vision.

The same was with Bale.

 

[El Payaso]

From what I read, you hate almost every aspect in this movie. But I can be wrong, and you just don't like them.

So can I accuse you back of hating some movie you never stated to hate and you'd be ok?

I was arguing with you, but now it just sound like argue with you as the main toppic of it.

I stated what I thought of Ledger words and you went calling me a BB hater out of the blue. You paved this way now you seem uncomfortable with it.

Yes, BB has them.

That was my only point. It took you 24 hours to admit I was right.

Oh, so you wanted to hear this from him 2-3 years ago, right?

As most people here I'm not ionterested in his opinions but just his job.
Now IF he's gonna say something he should learn some manners before insulting a genre and his fans.

Uhh... You know what... Nevermind, you won't even understand this.

You probably think that sounds cool. But yes, nice way to avoid answer and sound cool.

Ledger just put in that interview his thoughts and what Joker we are going to see. He also said that after talking with Nolan he understood and was agreed with his vision.

The same was with Bale.

And that doesn't guarrantee a good result. Same was with Bale. Bale's work did guarrantee a good result, not his words.

 

[ultimatefan]

So can I accuse you back of hating some movie you never stated to hate and you'd be ok?



I stated what I thought of Ledger words and you went calling me a BB hater out of the blue. You paved this way now you seem uncomfortable with it.



That was my only point. It took you 24 hours to admit I was right.



As most people here I'm not ionterested in his opinions but just his job.
Now IF he's gonna say something he should learn some manners before insulting a genre and his fans.


You probably think that sounds cool. But yes, nice way to avoid answer and sound cool.



And that doesn't guarrantee a good result. Same was with Bale. Bale's work did guarrantee a good result, not his words.

If you´re not interested in the guy´s opinion, only his job, why don´t you wait for his job and ignore his opinions? I´d say most people here are very interested in his opinions and, from your constant posting, so seems to be you.