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[Jostru]

Yeah, people need to start dying now. It's going way too slow for me.

The events of the episode did change my views on some of the suspects though.

Top suspects after episode 5:
1. [BLACKOUT]Kieran. As I mentioned earlier in the thread, everything that happens is very convenient for him. The events in this episode could easily have been set up by him. Like him "needing" to get to his locker leading to him ratting out Emma and making her the center of attention. He could've snuck out the emergency exit to confront Emma.[/BLACKOUT]
2. [BLACKOUT]The sherrif. Yeah, I had to place him lower this time. He did some things that didn't seem like the killer would do and I can't keep explaining all of them. Though him taking Emma's mom of the case is something that could be explained. In stead of him not wanting her to leak information to "suspects", he doesn't want her to leak information to his potential victims. And him looking into Jake's phone could be to plant evidence on Brooke's dad. Wouldn't be surprised if he's the next victim.[/BLACKOUT]
3. [BLACKOUT]Haley (the new girl). I still can't come up with a valid motive for her, but I just don't trust her.[/BLACKOUT]

 

[Matt]

Holy hell this season has picked up in a huge way.

Some miscellaneous thoughts:

- Kieran feels a bit obvious after tonight's episode...but so did Piper at this point last season

- The only ones I feel good about ruling out at this point are Emma, Audrey, Noah and Branson. Everyone else, literally everyone else, ranging from Emma's mother to the sheriff and his son to even Brooke are fair game.

- I'm still not quite sure as to whether or not I buy Audrey's story. I think it is partially true. I think she knew that Piper was killing and was at least implicitly involved. If she is innocent how do we explain the "DO IT!" scene last season (which screamed of Billy Loomis and Stu) as well as her about to bash Noah to hide the contents of the hard drive? She is clearly manipulating Noah. The faux-kidnapping allowed her to reveal some of her secret on her own terms but there are definitely more layers left to uncover. The whole "don't tell Emma" angle makes me think that Audrey is in love with Emma. Perhaps that was the goal? She brought in Piper, turned a blind eye in the name of being the hero/winning over Emma but it quickly spiraled out of control?

I really don't know what to think at this point. If last season was a bit too predictable, this one is anything but. Literally anyone could be a suspect.

Oh, I think we can rule out Cleavage Girl. Provided that Emma's phone call actually happened (and we have no reason to think that was a delusion) the killer was really outside of the office. Cleavage girl would not have had the opportunity to slip away from the crowded library where she was surrounded by friends and picking fights. We can probably rule out the Sheriff's son for the same reason (as Audrey was focusing on him pretty intently the entire time).

Although, I am starting to suspect the Sheriff's son. Maybe the killings are more about Brooke than we know. I mean, thus far there has only been one and a half victims...Jake and now Branson. Both are tied to Brooke. Seems a bit too coincidental. Also, in the preview for next week the Sheriff says something to Emma's mom along the lines of "we are responsible for this." I think Emma's mom, Sheriff, and Emma's dad definitely played a role in the original Brandon James murders (one of them is probably the killer). Maybe Sheriff's son is operating under the misguided perception that his father is the real killer and is doing it in some sick tribute to him.

 

[Sithborg]

Yeah, Audrey is definitely not telling the full story. I mean, she had the get up when she "kidnapped" Noah. And again, going to this length to find out how much he knew is clearly not just bringing Piper to town. Especially since she still had the killer's get up ready to go.

I do miss Brooke as a potential killer. She would've made a fine one after tonight.

 

[Matt]

I still haven't written her off. The killer did not kill Branson. To the contrary, (s)he cauterized the wound. Meaning that there is still some plan for him. If Branson is alive, Brooke's earlier actions would completely remove her as a suspect should he be released/escape/come in contact with anyone. But, at the end of the day, the only one who knew he was handcuffed in a hotel room was Brooke. Dumping the body on herself, threatening Branson. These could be diversionary tactics. Plus, she is one of the few people who was capable of freely roaming the school during the lock down.

Brooke is not high on my suspect list, but she is my dark horse.

 

[The Shape]

There are many ways the show has tried to pain Brooke as a possible suspect, but this seems like misdirection.

Definitely seems a little suspect that, shortly after Brooke lied to the female teacher about being with Branson that night, the killer shows up to torture (not kill) Branson. That screams 'revenge' to me and the reasons for it could be two-fold.

1) Get back at Branson for being a cheating *****ebag.
2) Frame Brooke as the killer and/or a suspect, since Branson will think it was her who did this. (Brooke is supposedly the only one who knew he was there, and the one who arranged to meet at that spot).

But who knows, really.

 

[terry78]

Everybody has some kinda weird alibi. Don't know if they're going with the team of killers again.

 

[The Shape]

It does seem like there could be two separate killings/games taking place. Maybe one duo of killers a la Scream 2, and a lone wolf with his/her own agenda.

Three killers would certainly be something different and unique.

 

[Matt]

It does seem like there could be two separate killings/games taking place. Maybe one duo of killers a la Scream 2, and a lone wolf with his/her own agenda.

Three killers would certainly be something different and unique.

I think before long we will have that with Audrey. I think at some point, she is going to start killing again to cover her own tracks. So then you will have a team of killers (Piper's accomplice and possibly his/her accomplice) and an independent killer, each with their own agenda.

 

[Broseph44]

It does seem like there could be two separate killings/games taking place. Maybe one duo of killers a la Scream 2, and a lone wolf with his/her own agenda.

Three killers would certainly be something different and unique.

Yeah I'd say all of this is a possibility.

Also noticed that all the episode titles are titles of horror films. I looked up the entire list of names for the upcoming episodes as well. And they're keeping that trend going. I think that's pretty cool as a big horror fan.

 

[Doctor Jones]

Or it could be a thing where Emma is the killer and her seeing the killer is all in her head. The killer even stated, "I'm in your head." This could be as a result of her PTSD and God knows what else that we don't know about happened to here between seasons. It would make Emma more interesting. It's a bad cliche, but I can see them doing it for the need to make Emma more interesting. But remedying an uninteresting lead by a dumb twist just makes the writing even more transparent.

 

[Matt]

Or it could be a thing where Emma is the killer and her seeing the killer is all in her head. The killer even stated, "I'm in your head." This could be as a result of her PTSD and God knows what else that we don't know about happened to here between seasons. It would make Emma more interesting. It's a bad cliche, but I can see them doing it for the need to make Emma more interesting. But remedying an uninteresting lead by a dumb twist just makes the writing even more transparent.

Why are you tuning in and so closely analyzing a show that you seem to hate?



At any rate, the audience is clearly meant to question Emma's sanity. I think it is a red herring. We know Piper has an actual accomplice as we saw her and the killer together. We know the actual accomplice is not Emma and probably not Audrey (in the sense that she was helping her carry out the murders). So if Emma is a killer now, she was not Piper's accomplice. That means we have somewhere between 3 and 4 (possibly as many as 5) killers on the loose:

Emma

The accomplice

The accomplice of the accomplice (as this season's killer probably cannot be working alone based on what (s)he as done)

Audrey (assuming she has killed/will kill)

and finally

The original Brandon James killer (who probably wasn't Piper's accomplice as she was avenging her framed father, doesn't make sense to work with the person who framed him)


It is just getting to be too much at that point, half the cast would consist of serial killers and their accomplices.

That being said, I am starting to think Piper's actual accomplice may not be the killer this season. I'm starting to think it might be the mayor. I can't get past the fact that all of the killings are tied to Brooke and taking out people the mayor feels is unsafe for her.

It would be quite the twist, he had nothing to do with the murders of season 1 but is using the opportunity that they present to take some personal vengeance. Of course, it raises questions about his involvement of the Sheriff, but what better way to dodge guilt than by pointing the chief of police at you and letting him clear you (on your own terms)?

It would make a fantastic end of the season if he were suddenly killed by the real accomplice who takes issue with him perverting his/her and Piper's work and the season ends on the reveal of who the accomplice is as (s)he kills the mayor.

 

[Sithborg]

See, I think the Sheriff and Mayor stuff all ties back to Brandon James. At this point, I think it is a safe bet that he wasn't the killer back then.

We sort of need to see what the killer is going to do with Branson. Clearly, they don't just want to kill him, but they need their hand for some reason.

And so far, the killer is too... playful to just be about protecting Brooke. The killer is intent on torturing them. It is all about hurting those who hurt Emma. About the only thing that has me doubting it is Emma herself is the vid the killer sent Audrey when she went to the hotel room.

 

[Doctor Jones]

Why are you tuning in and so closely analyzing a show that you seem to hate?

It's the show I watch with my girlfriend, man. If I had a choice I wouldn't. Though she says it's bad too and it at least makes it enjoyable when we joke during it, she cares about Noah and Audrey and is curious about the mystery. So I'm half invested.

But yeah... we really need to find a better show to watch together.

 

[terry78]

Ever heard of a little gem called Bad Girls Club?

 

[The Shape]

So last night's episode was pretty wild.

 

[Matt]

I think I am done speculating at this point. I genuinely have no clue who the killer is. Everyone but Kieran and the Sheriff's son has pretty air tight alibis during what went down at the school. And the Sheriff's son was being watched by Audrey basically the entire time that the school was on lock down. So either there are multiple killers and he is one of them or Kieran is the killer (which also does not preclude multiple killers). But Kieran seems so obvious at this point. Even with him getting kidnapped in the promo for next week, he still feels obvious.

 

[The Shape]

Keiran's cousin, tho.

Btw, the killer's voice in the last phone call is 100% the voice of the actor who plays Kerian's cousin -- whether or not he's actually meant to be one of the killers.

 

[Matt]

Keiran's cousin, tho.

Btw, the killer's voice in the last phone call is 100% the voice of the actor who plays Kerian's cousin -- whether or not he's actually meant to be one of the killers.

I don't think it was. I'm pretty sure there is a credited actor who plays the voice.

 

[Sawyer]

Neither of them bothered me much in S1, but if Emma/Kieran/both aren't dead by season's end, I swear to God... the constant melodrama between the two of them is unbearable.

 

[terry78]

Black chick constantly trying to bang Noah..... she's got some killing under her belt. Forgot her name.

 

[Matt]

Assuming there is only one killer (which seems unlikely) and assuming there is no supernatural element to the show (which would be awful and seems very unlikely), by process of elimination, the killer has to be Gustavo, the Mayor, or Emma's father. They are the only ones who have not had some sort of alibi at some point that we know the killer has been active.

Of course, it seems unlikely that there is only one killer.

 

[terry78]

Rip Titty McTitterson.

 

[Sithborg]

So, I think I am back onto the [BLACKOUT]Fight Club[/BLACKOUT] theory. I think [BLACKOUT]Ms. Lang's reaction and that one tape is a good clue. I don't think we can trust what we see when Emma is on screen. And I am beginning to suspect that Zoe is her accomplice. Probably met up while getting psychiatric help. I keep going back to how the killer is focused on those that hurt Emma. [/BLACKOUT]

I do hope we get a bit more on the Brandon James murders. Not sure how long they want to drag out that mystery.

Sadly, the killer wasn't as playful as in the earlier parts of the season. Let's see if the preview is true or not.

 

[Sawyer]

When THAT character died...

 

[Broseph44]

When THAT character died...

My reaction for sure hahaha