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Well well well, it looks like the Clintons is up to their usual tricks. They file a LAW-SUIT to stop Rules, that hillary herself completely agreed to, when she was the huge front-runner; and thought, she would get the endorsement of the Culinary Union. Now behold, she seeking a court order to change the rules, because now, she says the rule isn't fair.

MSNBC said:
Next up for the Democrats were precinct caucuses Saturday in Nevada. There, Clinton's supporters awaited a court ruling on a lawsuit seeking a last-minute change in rules they agreed to months ago. Their objective was to prevent several caucuses along the Las Vegas Strip, where thousands of Culinary Workers Union employees — many of them Hispanic or black — hold jobs.

The rules were approved in March, when the former first lady was the overwhelming national front-runner in the race. But the union voted last week to endorse Obama, and the lawsuit followed.


LMFAO! Why is this _____ running? She cares nothing about the people. Just her ambitions for Power and a chapter in the History Books. She is not a leader; yet, she has proving to be a Divider.

Anyway, for the next couple weeks, anything from the Nevada Caucus for both republicans and democrats, post it here. As you can see, things are already getting ugly.
 
Well well well, it looks like the Clintons is up to their usual tricks. They file a LAW-SUIT to stop Rules, that hillary herself completely agreed to, when she was the huge front-runner; and thought, she would get the endorsement of the Culinary Union. Now behold, she seeking a court order to change the rules, because now, she says the rule isn't fair.




LMFAO! Why is this _____ running? She cares nothing about the people. Just her ambitions for Power and a chapter in the History Books. She is not a leader; yet, she has proving to be a Divider.

Anyway, for the next couple weeks, anything from the Nevada Caucus for both republicans and democrats, post it here. As you can see, things are already getting ugly.

Y'know, there was a period of time where even though she was not my top choice for the candidacy I still would have voted for her in a general election if she got the nomination. However, after this, and the stupid race discussions that her campaign instigated I am seriously considering not supporting her if she does win. What gets me is how she pretends to be a uniter. Even against her own party she's using dirty tricks to win. What a joke.
 
This is ridiculous.
The state Democratic Party unanimously approved the caucus rules last March that the Democratic National Committee signed on in August. Four of the six plaintiffs are members of the committee that approved the rules.
 
I am so ashamed to have that b***h as my Senator.
 
Y'know, there was a period of time where even though she was not my top choice for the candidacy I still would have voted for her in a general election if she got the nomination. However, after this, and the stupid race discussions that her campaign instigated I am seriously considering not supporting her if she does win. What gets me is how she pretends to be a uniter. Even against her own party she's using dirty tricks to win. What a joke.

She didn't instigate a conversation about race. Barack Obama did. She expanded on a recurring theme of her campaign, that hope is not a strategy alone. At a forum, she discussed that Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. did not solely get Civil Rights legislation passed. He fought for it, yes, but in the end, that change resulted in Lyndon Johnson and his advisers drafting the Civil Rights Act, which passed in Congress and he signed into law.

Barack Obama and his supporters then made her comments into an issue of race. Her comments were never about race; they were about experience, and if any of his supporters weren't blindsided by his race to begin with, they wouldn't have made this into a big deal.

Once again, Barack Obama instigated this drawn-out discussion, and blamed it on the Hillary campaign.
 
She didn't instigate a conversation about race. Barack Obama did. She expanded on a recurring theme of her campaign, that hope is not a strategy alone. At a forum, she discussed that Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. did not solely get Civil Rights legislation passed. He fought for it, yes, but in the end, that change resulted in Lyndon Johnson and his advisers drafting the Civil Rights Act, which passed in Congress and he signed into law.

Barack Obama and his supporters then made her comments into an issue of race. Her comments were never about race; they were about experience, and if any of his supporters weren't blindsided by his race to begin with, they wouldn't have made this into a big deal.

Once again, Barack Obama instigated this drawn-out discussion, and blamed it on the Hillary campaign.

I completely agree but to be fair to Obama, Clinton did make this arguement look worse later on.

While Obama is at fault, they both look rather childish right now.
 
Well well well, it looks like the Clintons is up to their usual tricks. They file a LAW-SUIT to stop Rules, that hillary herself completely agreed to, when she was the huge front-runner; and thought, she would get the endorsement of the Culinary Union. Now behold, she seeking a court order to change the rules, because now, she says the rule isn't fair.




LMFAO! Why is this _____ running? She cares nothing about the people. Just her ambitions for Power and a chapter in the History Books. She is not a leader; yet, she has proving to be a Divider.

Anyway, for the next couple weeks, anything from the Nevada Caucus for both republicans and democrats, post it here. As you can see, things are already getting ugly.
Great post.
 
While I tend to disagree with Venom'sDad, his post is completely accurate on Hillary in Nevada.
 
saw this amusing item:

Las Vegas Strippers May Influence Global Nuclear-Waste Policy

By Hans Nichols
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Jan. 15 (Bloomberg) -- Tori, a 37-year-old Las Vegas stripper, is an unlikely person to set national energy policy.

As a voter in Nevada's Jan. 19 Democratic presidential caucuses, that's just what she'll help to do when she chooses which candidate to support. The most important issue for her is the U.S. Department of Energy's plan to store spent nuclear fuel at Yucca Mountain, an extinct volcano about 100 miles northwest of Las Vegas.

Senator Hillary Clinton of New York ``says she is against it,'' says Tori, who declines to give her last name, citing her day job working with burn victims at a dermatology clinic. ``But before she has my vote, I want to know if she means it.''

Yucca Mountain is a reminder that local issues in America's early caucus and primary states may play an outsized role in setting national -- and in Nevada's case, international -- policy. Iowa voters extracted presidential pledges on ethanol subsidies. Now most Nevada Democrats require candidates to oppose the Yucca Mountain plan -- as all three leading contenders have. Those Vegas vows may be hard to break, even as concerns about global warming have thawed some environmentalists' opposition to nuclear energy.

``There is this anti-nuclear movement here that has international impact far beyond Nevada,'' says David Damore, a University of Nevada-Las Vegas political science professor. ``Yucca is our ethanol. You have to come here and say you're against it, even if you were for it at one point.''

Splitting the Spoils

With Clinton, 60, and Illinois Senator Barack Obama, 46, splitting the spoils in Iowa and New Hampshire, the two are now fighting for Nevada's 33 delegates -- three more than New Hampshire -- and the media coverage that comes with being the front-runner. Party officials expect between 37,000 and 45,000 Democrats to caucus at 529 polling stations across the state, including nine on the Strip.

Democratic leaders gave Nevada a starring role in vetting the presidential contenders for a reason: Inserting it after Iowa and New Hampshire allows candidates to address Latino issues in a Western state that has a 20 percent Hispanic population -- and that Democrats lost in the 2004 election. Previously, Nevada's caucuses came later in the campaign schedule and were held at the county level, not in precincts.

Economic Plans

The contest also provides the candidates a timely opportunity to talk about their economic plans -- Nevada, one of the fastest-growing states in the U.S., is also among the hardest-hit by the housing recession -- and to discuss labor issues such as health-care benefits and wages.

Obama received the endorsement from the Culinary Workers Union, which represents some 60,000 employees in the hotels and casinos that drive Nevada's economy. That was a setback for former North Carolina Senator John Edwards, 54, who has focused on labor in his campaign.

The union says it wants to signal its strength to the hotels by defeating Clinton, who has the support of most of the state's Democratic establishment.

The showdown between Obama and Clinton ``really puts Nevada on the political map as it never has been before,'' says Jill Derby, the state's Democratic Party chairman. ``Whoever ends up in the White House is going to know something about the West, and that includes Yucca.''

Yucca Mountain, more of a ridge line than a peak, has been studied since 1978 as a place to house spent nuclear fuel from the nation's 104 operating reactors. The U.S. has invested $11 billion since 1983 on the site, which was supposed to start accepting waste in 1998.

Obstacles

Technical, legal and budget problems have delayed the opening until 2017 at the earliest, the Energy Department has said, though many obstacles remain, including stiff congressional opposition and getting required permits.

Nevada is ``sort of mixed'' on nuclear power, Derby says. ``Everyone thinks it's a cleaner source of energy, but the waste issue needs to be decided, and we don't want it here in our backyard.''

Concern about global warming has led some environmentalists like Patrick Moore, a founder of the international conservationist group Greenpeace, to reconsider nuclear power. Moore, now a paid spokesman for a nuclear industry-funded energy coalition, calls it ``clean, safe and affordable.''

`Psychological' Barrier

Finding a final resting place for the radioactive waste is ``necessary in the long run'' and more than just a ``psychological'' barrier for the nuclear industry, Moore says. ``It is basically an issue of liability.''

Obama, Clinton and Edwards all oppose using Yucca Mountain as a waste depository, though in 2000, Edwards voted the other way. Obama, whose state has the largest nuclear-energy network in the country and the eighth-largest in the world, has said nuclear power should remain an option for the U.S.

Clinton told an environmental magazine last August that she is ``agnostic'' about nuclear energy, while Edwards flatly opposes its expansion.

Back at the Las Vegas gentlemen's club where Tori works, her colleagues also aren't unanimous on the issue. Suzanne Nakata, a 27-year-old waitress who doesn't disrobe because she ``might run for office one day,'' says Nevadans need to reconsider their opposition to Yucca Mountain if they want to reduce America's greenhouse-gas emissions.

``Honestly, nuclear waste really does have to go somewhere,'' the registered Democrat says, ``but Nevadans haven't accepted that.''
 
Yay, let involve the courts in our election system even more :down:
 
Well well well, it looks like the Clintons is up to their usual tricks. They file a LAW-SUIT to stop Rules, that hillary herself completely agreed to, when she was the huge front-runner; and thought, she would get the endorsement of the Culinary Union. Now behold, she seeking a court order to change the rules, because now, she says the rule isn't fair.




LMFAO! Why is this _____ running? She cares nothing about the people. Just her ambitions for Power and a chapter in the History Books. She is not a leader; yet, she has proving to be a Divider.

Anyway, for the next couple weeks, anything from the Nevada Caucus for both republicans and democrats, post it here. As you can see, things are already getting ugly.



Lol. Silly Hillary.
 
Yay, let involve the courts in our election system even more :down:

Well after 2000, everyone loved it so much that "they" decided to integrate them even more...
 
Y'know, there was a period of time where even though she was not my top choice for the candidacy I still would have voted for her in a general election if she got the nomination. However, after this, and the stupid race discussions that her campaign instigated I am seriously considering not supporting her if she does win. What gets me is how she pretends to be a uniter. Even against her own party she's using dirty tricks to win. What a joke.

Underline that! :up: She lack substantialness. People know it, but support her regardless.

This is why the country is decaying. The mindset of supporting a person of this quality is ridiculas. Proof is in the pudding..... and in that MSNBC report above.
 
I really loved how they called Obama a "fairy tale", then started crying over how he was playing dirty.
 
In the debate going on right now, Hilary said she would take away federal funding to universities if they dont have an active ROTC or a recruting station.

When asked about the fact that Harvard, Stanford, Columbia and Yale dont have either, she said there are ways around that are perfectly legal.

Dude.
 
In the debate going on right now, Hilary said she would take away federal funding to universities if they dont have an active ROTC or a recruting station.

When asked about the fact that Harvard, Stanford, Columbia and Yale dont have either, she said there are ways around that are perfectly legal.

Dude.

Hmmm. Yeah, that's a tough call. I would say that this isn't really an important issue anyway; but then, what she said afterwards leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

I really loved how they called Obama a "fairy tale", then started crying over how he was playing dirty.

Again, words taken out of context-- though Bill shouldn't have said that in the first place.

But I don't agree with this Nevada action.

She and her husband need to stop doing and saying stupid things.
 
My deal with her is the hypocrisy. She wants to look tough, but when someone looks tough to her, she falls down and blames the system.


The reason i think the college deal is an issue is that both she and Obama followed by saying that we need more volunteer members of our armed troops. Where would we get more troops older than 18, younger than 30? Maybe colleges? Its just not the right question to place that type of idea....
 
Debate over...

Edwards kicked ass. He put the others in their place.
 
Debate over...

Edwards kicked ass. He put the others in their place.

Now would be the perfect time for him to surge.

Of course, the media won't pay attention to him, so either Clinton or Obama are still locked for the nomination.
 
If the Nevada unions weren't so stupid, he would be surging. Why would they back Obama???
 
If the Nevada unions weren't so stupid, he would be surging. Why would they back Obama???

Because he won Iowa, and they wanted to back a "winner" who wasn't Hillary.

Probably not the official answer, but I'm sure that's true none the less.
 
Piggyback.... that's all I can say about hillary clinton. Especially on specific question ask to Obama about minority education, housing market, again on, healthcare(she's altering her plan again), Environmental issues & alternative technologies, lobbyist, and what troop withdrawals actually entail. It was always, "Tim, I can do that too". Many of times after she was given an opportunity to answer a question first. It boggles the mind why people thinks she's the most intelligent woman on the face of the Earth. That speaks volumes about the rest of you women.

Edwards, imo, needs to withdraw... it's apparent Tim & Brian feel this is a contest between Obama and hillary. Edwards scores on a few points, but it was not many and hillary just piggyback all night.

I will say that it appear, to me at least, that Tim was in awe(in a reverence way) with Obama. That's just me.
 

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