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[Jacko]

http://www.newsarama.com/JoeFridays/JoeFridays48.html

Talks a lot about Spider-mans marriage.

 

[BrianWilly]

I completely, 100% disagree with him.

A character can absolutely grow within his own comic while never ever actually changing...

What the heck? This is absolutely BS. The exact opposite has been happening in Spider-Man. You won't let him change so he never grows, as a character or otherwise. He's been a twentysomething manchild for ages and ages now, a novice and idiotic n00b hero who stops in the middle of a fight to read a book. People like Iron Man and Wolverine should be looking up to him, not the other way around. Years after having proven himself as a man and as a hero, and he still lets people walk all over him. It utterly disheartens me to hear Quesadilla praising a strategy that's been hurting the character for years.

...and I think Ultimate Spider-Man has proven that. He’s been in the same grade for five years and nearly a hundred issues.

Ultimate Spider-Man has been going on for five years and regular Spider-Man has been going on for practically half a century. There is no basis for comparison at all.

Look, I could go on and on, I have in the past and we could argue this amongst ourselves until we’re blue in the face, but let me ask you this, why is it that in every other incarnation of Spider-Man, whether it’s the movies, the cartoons, everywhere he’s represented, they always show him as single with the exception of one place, the Marvel Universe comic? A character can absolutely grow within his own comic while never ever actually changing and I thinkUltimate Spider-Man has proven that. He’s been in the same grade for five years and nearly a hundred issues.

The movie has not gone on for forty years. The cartoons did not go on for forty years.

By the way, if he and MJ had kids that would have just compounded the problem, and Marvel dodged that bullet some time ago. But all that said, divorcing or widowing, or annulling the marriage compounds would only be worse, that would only serve to make both Peter and MJ seem even older. So while marriage for a character is not a “bad”, it can be a bad thing from a story and property management sense if the character was best suited for being single.

I know that there are people that feel that the characters need to grow and mature, but remember a character can grow and mature while not having to grow up and age

Shut up. Just...shut up.

So, how about this, perhaps we take that reasoning literally, how about if we started to publish stories of a late fifties Spider-Man, he has kids and perhaps grandkids? Aunt May is long in the grave and MJ is getting saggy while Peter is getting jowly and paunchy.

Didn't you already do this?? It was called "Spider-Girl."

 

[deemar325]

Joey Q is so out of touch it boggles the mind.

He knows 'the Other' and 'Sins Past' along with the Totem crap is what's destroyed Spidey and that JMS is the sole person responsible for these fubars.


Yet he blames it on Peter being married? While he has some valid points on the subject it's done and over with, Peter is a married man.

I don't like it, but there you have it. What needs to be done asap is JMS must be taken off Spider-man and given to Dan Slott or Robert Kirkman two guys tailor made for Spidey.

It seems that the inflitration of the Hollywood syndrome has infected Marvel, with guys like Bendis,JMS and others who seem to be in a holding pattern until they hit it big with a major movie deal or tv show.

 

[deemar325]

B Willy I don't think Spidey having kids would be a good idea personally.

 

[Hawkeye]

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Anyone see this?​

 

[littleredhat]

Grrr. Why can't this guy just leave MJ alone! For many fans (myself included) she is Lois to Peter's Clark.

An established relationship is harder to make interesting than a budding romance thats why Archie still hasn't choosen between Betty and Veronica.

Joe should just move to Archie if thats what he wants to write.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

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Anyone see this?​

Curse you for being so goddamn sexy, Bermejo!

 

[MaskedManJRK]

Look, I could go on and on, I have in the past and we could argue this amongst ourselves until we’re blue in the face, but let me ask you this, why is it that in every other incarnation of Spider-Man, whether it’s the movies, the cartoons, everywhere he’s represented, they always show him as single with the exception of one place, the Marvel Universe comic? A character can absolutely grow within his own comic while never ever actually changing and I thinkUltimate Spider-Man has proven that. He’s been in the same grade for five years and nearly a hundred issues.

That's wrong. Literary, completely and utterly wrong. Peter was married to MJ for just about the last half of the 90's Spider-Man: The Animated Series.

Just how out-of-touch is this guy that he doesn't even know that?

 

[TheCorpulent1]

He's been pretty much committed to MJ for the movies, as well, and it was made official at the end of the last one.

 

[GNR]

That sucks about the Inhumans.I guess those plans that were in the works mentioned at NYCC were dropped.That really sucks.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Wow, they spelled Bermejo's name wrong in the solicitation. I hope he goes back to DC for that.

 

[deemar325]

Bermejo draws a awesome DD.

 

[euroq]

Sigh, Quesada is a big ****ing idiot. My days as Marvel reader are over if he decides to mess with the Spidey marriage.

 

[Kirk Langstrom]

I dont understand what Joe's trip is with MJ...

So Peter is married...so what?

That has NOTHING to do with Spider-Man. Writng them as a couple is easy as pie, and in fact, is being done as we speak over in Sensational Spider-Man.

You have Spidey figting a villain, or otherwise "problem solving" while MJ as her own little sub plot brewing, then have both characters "meet n the middle" by story's end.

The variations on that are infinite.

Why is that so hard for Joe to comprehend?

The problem with the Spidey books right now (ASM & FNSM) isnt Peter and MJ's marriage...the problem is writers who have completely run out of ideas, and editors who haven't got a clue on what the dynamic of Spider-Man/Peter Parker is all about.

And it's starting to get REAL old, REAL fast.

 

[wobbly]

It's odd he has such issues over Peter being married to MJ, who had been close to him for donkeys years regardless of how rushed the actual marriage may have been, yet has no problem with the upcoming Black Panther/Storm marriage...afaik they have had little history together to speak of but that one isn't rushed?

Really, his only argument seems to be that Spider-man as a 'teen' property is potentially more profitable if they could keep him forever a teenager. But even in marvel time (and under the pen of his creator too) he has grown older, left high school, left college and matured beyond the Ultimate permateen Quesada seems to prefer.

 

[SpideyInATree]

If this means that they are gonna off MJ...well, thats good news for me. I've been waiting for this for, like...8 or 9 years now.

 

[deemar325]

Money is the root to all evil. Even in comics.

Oh yeah and ego.

 

[WOLVERINE25TH]

Why hasn't Spidey been married in th' cartoons or movies? Oh, I dunno, maybe because th' movies and cartoons had to START AT THE ORIGIN?! 'Cause Spidey wasn't married WHEN HE GOT BITTEN?! Because th' relationship needed TO BE DEVELOPED FIRST?!

Stick a fork in him, he's done.

Oh, and to reiterate what other's've said, THEY GOT MARRIED IN THE CARTOON YOU DUMBASS!

 

[Hawkeye]

Bermejo draws a awesome DD.

Totally.

 

[deemar325]

If Marvel was smart they'd offer him a nice DD mini.

 

[Hawkeye]

If Marvel was smart they'd offer him a nice DD mini.

Yeah, that'd be sweet. And I'd be happy with either Bendiso ) or Brubaker on it, just for this one.

 

[deemar325]

Brubaker for me, I'm worn out on Bendis.

 

[Hawkeye]

That's a def, Brubaker's run so far is absolutely fantastic.

 

[GNR]

Brubaker for me, I'm worn out on Bendis.

With anything,there always comes a day when people will bash the current rising star.Who knew people would be bashing Bendis 5 or 6 years down the line from when he was doing DD.

 

[Darthphere]

As ive said, I wish I was like Joey Q. Running a business without knowing anything at all about the business im running.