The Amazing Spider-Man 2 New writers.

[Perry9]

My main gripe was the inconsistancy. Dillon had a few campy scenes and Kafka had a bad accent. Too early to see ASM2's reaction but that was my gripe with the film. They handled the multiple stories well IMO so for the eventual Sinister Six film then I'd say they would do a good job.

Okay. Thanks for that.

 

[Spidey-Lad93]

**** it I don't care if he is 91 years old I say give Stan Lee some import in the script

 

[Wanksta]

Now this thread makes much more sense:

http://www.thewrap.com/roberto-orci...big-screen-partnership-star-trek-spider-man-2

 

[Perry9]

Now this thread makes much more sense:

http://www.thewrap.com/roberto-orci...big-screen-partnership-star-trek-spider-man-2

Ha, i've actually read this over at IMDB. These guys are friends since high school, so it's kinda weird that they went their different ways.

 

[The Infernal]

ASM's script was fine, editing was the problem. As for ASM2 it's too early to say but while there was a few problems I did feel it was the best thus far, though they did have four films to learn from.

I think there should be a new set of writers with each installment but have JV or Ocri and Ku (what's his name?) polish it up to keep it consistant.

Editing wouldn't have saved Electro and editing doesn't account for clunky lines.

 

[Man in the Suit]

Ha, i've actually read this over at IMDB. These guys are friends since high school, so it's kinda weird that they went their different ways.

It's because Roberto Orci is a crazy person. JJ, Lindelof, and now Kurtzman have drifted away from the guy.

He was going off on Twitter last year about how the Boston Bombing was a conspiracy like 30 minutes after it happened. Is there any conspiracy/truther stuff in ASM2? Because that's his thing. He's nuts.

 

[Green Goblin]

Editing wouldn't have saved Electro and editing doesn't account for clunky lines.

I was talking about editing being the main gripe with ASM. People complained about cutting Billy.

As for this films script I thought was 90% fine but the scene with the accident and his bedroom he was pretty cheesy. It stands out more as the rest of the film was ASM's tone. We'll see how the movie turns out in the coming months but that is my personal view just.

 

[Perry9]

It's because Roberto Orci is a crazy person. JJ, Lindelof, and now Kurtzman have drifted away from the guy.

He was going off on Twitter last year about how the Boston Bombing was a conspiracy like 30 minutes after it happened. Is there any conspiracy/truther stuff in ASM2? Because that's his thing. He's nuts.

There was also an incident with a guy that was bashing ST and Orci told him to "**** off" (that happened via the Internet, of course). He then apologized in Twitter.

 

[The Infernal]

Really? I had no idea the guy was a nut. This is the first I'm hearing of it.

 

[Perry9]

Really? I had no idea the guy was a nut. This is the first I'm hearing of it.

In the incident that i've mentioned, he obviously lost it. It can happen to anyone. I hadn't heard about that Baltimore thing, though.

 

[The Infernal]

In the incident that i've mentioned, he obviously lost it. It can happen to anyone. I hadn't heard about that Baltimore thing, though.

The Star Trek thing I find completely understandable. I find it a bit of a farce how some fans react to certain things. Someone losing it and telling them to 'eff off' or 'grow up' I find somewhat sympathetic when contrasted against some fans behaviour. It's the truther/conspiracy nut thing that really surprises me. I'd have thought that would have made more news at the time.

 

[Oscorp]

I just discovered that Orci and Kurtzman wrote Now You See Me, another film I absolutely hate.

I'm all for new writers to give Spider-Man a try. And for the producers to keep their hands out of the creative work as much as possible.

 

[Perry9]

I just discovered that Orci and Kurtzman wrote Now You See Me, another film I absolutely hate.

I'm all for new writers to give Spider-Man a try. And for the producers to keep their hands out of the creative work as much as possible.

They actually produced that, they didn't write it.

 

[Oscorp]

They actually produced that, they didn't write it.

Ah I see!

Anyway, I mainly see my problem with TASM2 is in the script (Orci and Kurtzman) and being overstuffed with things that just got underdeveloped (which I think is the producers fault for wanting to create a "Spider-Man universe").

I'm sad that Orci and Kurtzman will write TASM3 as well. Sony needs a writer who can craft a focused story.

 

[Perry9]

Ah I see!

Anyway, I mainly see my problem with TASM2 is in the script (Orci and Kurtzman) and being overstuffed with things that just got underdeveloped (which I think is the producers fault for wanting to create a "Spider-Man universe").

I'm sad that Orci and Kurtzman will write TASM3 as well. Sony needs a writer who can craft a focused story.

As i've said before, it's a hit or miss with most writers. The guy that wrote the screenplay for Fight Club also wrote Jumper (if you don't know this movie, search it in IMDB. It has a 4,5 rating). I doubt that Nolan or Whedon would want to write a Spider-man movie. The latter would obviously have issues with the studios. Who do you think that would be suitable for a Spidey flick?

 

[Oscorp]

As i've said before, it's a hit or miss with most writers. The guy that wrote the screenplay for Fight Club also wrote Jumper (if you don't know this movie, search it in IMDB. It has a 4,5 rating). I doubt that Nolan or Whedon would want to write a Spider-man movie. The latter would obviously have issues with the studios. Who do you think that would be suitable for a Spidey flick.

I agree about Nolan, I don't think he'd get the charm of Spider-Man at all, even though he'd probably nail the plot an villain stuff.

Whedon would be great I think!

I'd love for Matthew Vaughn to give it a shot.

 

[Perry9]

I agree about Nolan, I don't think he'd get the charm of Spider-Man at all, even though he'd probably nail the plot an villain stuff.

Whedon would be great I think!

I'd love for Matthew Vaughn to give it a shot.

What would you like to see improved in the next installment? Apart from the villains.

 

[Andrew Lucas]

They are both great writers, and it made me very happy when i saw some scenes from the movie,not worried about that.

 

[Perry9]

They are both great writers, and it made me very happy when i saw some scenes from the movie,not worried about that.

I'm glad there are some supporters of them here. I know that they are not going to win the Pulitzer award any time soon, but they sure know how to make enjoyable movies.

 

[Oscorp]

What would you like to see improved in the next installment? Apart from the villains.

I thought the humour was pretty bad in its execution. The humour shouldn't come from Dr. Kafka being a stupid, German mad scientist with lipstick. The humour should be nuanced and intelligent.

There were many instances when the writing felt lazy, trying to take easy routes such as [blackout]the defeat of Electro. Why did Spider-Man all of a sudden endure that much electricity?[/blackout] to mention one example (there were so many instances that I don't even remember them all, the whole film felt incredibly dumbed down). Overall I want much more thought put into the script.

Characters need not to be stereotypical archetypes or horribly over the top. That kind of humour is simply childish and takes you out of the film completely, leaving you embarrassed. I want a villain that is well written thoughout, simple as that.

While it was good to have continuation from the promise in TASM, the constant back and forth between Peter and Gwen, while realistic, was annoying to Watch IMO.

Have writers who know how to write things that are according to characters. Don't have Peter Parker learn about batteries via a stupid Youtube video for example. Don't sacrifice character for childish Comedy (see also: Max Dillon).

Think less is more. Don't try to cram in as much as possible just because the MCU is successful. Write the story and the plots for one film specifically this time, instead of having too much of a "to be continued..." mentality. No need to throw in characters like Felicia if she's barely even there. I want to see a film that has more in common with Iron Man 1 instead of Iron Man 2.

 

[Perry9]

I thought the humour was pretty bad in its execution. The humour shouldn't come from Dr. Kafka being a stupid, German mad scientist with lipstick. The humour should be nuanced and intelligent.

There were many instances when the writing felt lazy, trying to take easy routes such as [blackout]the defeat of Electro. Why did Spider-Man all of a sudden endure that much electricity?[/blackout] to mention one example (there were so many instances that I don't even remember them all, the whole film felt incredibly dumbed down). Overall I want much more thought put into the script.

Characters need not to be stereotypical archetypes or horribly over the top. That kind of humour is simply childish and takes you out of the film completely, leaving you embarrassed. I want a villain that is well written thoughout, simple as that.

While it was good to have continuation from the promise in TASM, the constant back and forth between Peter and Gwen, while realistic, was annoying to Watch IMO.

Have writers who know how to write things that are according to characters. Don't have Peter Parker learn about batteries via a stupid Youtube video for example. Don't sacrifice character for childish Comedy (see also: Max Dillon).

Think less is more. Don't try to cram in as much as possible just because the MCU is successful. Write the story and the plots for one film specifically this time, instead of having too much of a "to be continued..." mentality. No need to throw in characters like Felicia if she's barely even there. I want to see a film that has more in common with Iron Man 1 instead of Iron Man 2.

I see.

 

[Alt-Josh]

I think someone mentioned Phil Lord and Christopher Miller. The tone they used for Lego Movie would translate well to Spidey I think. Lots of humor with enough genuine character moments. Or Brad Bird. Another writer/director.

The thing is, good writers can come up with a bad screenplay and vice versa. The guy who wrote Batman and Robin also won an Academy Award for A Beautiful Mind. So there's no guarantees. But yeah, Lord/Miller or Bird would be cool.

 

[Perry9]

I think someone mentioned Phil Lord and Christopher Miller. The tone they used for Lego Movie would translate well to Spidey I think. Lots of humor with enough genuine character moments. Or Brad Bird. Another writer/director.

The thing is, good writers can come up with a bad screenplay and vice versa. The guy who wrote Batman and Robin also won an Academy Award for A Beautiful Mind. So there's no guarantees. But yeah, Lord/Miller or Bird would be cool.

Interesting. I could see that.

 

[Napoleon]

So does Kurtzman and Orci splitting up mean that they won't be writing TASM 3?

 

[Perry9]

So does Kurtzman and Orci splitting up mean that they won't be writing TASM 3?

According to IMDB, they are writing it, along with Jeff Pinker.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2250912/?ref_=nv_sr_3