Apocalypse Next movies for the X-Men universe

[GuestStar2004]

i wonder if they could reboot fantastic four as part of the next X-Men movie, or would that be more a turn off, it would still be a sorta cross over gimmick?

 

[imfinewithit]

I wouldn't risk it. Fantastic Four is a poisonous brand now. A Spider-Man style cameo won't do anything at all for them and is more likely to just create negative buzz on whatever project you're including them in. They're just too far gone. They need a STELLAR movie to regain any value at this point and even if that can be done, they'll be contending with years of anti-hype while it's in production, which will likely impact perception and commercial performance on release regardless.

 

[GiftedChris]

I think first thing they need to fix is their timeline.... Skipping 10 year every movie is hard thing to do. They are hand cuffing them self of what they can do and can not do. By the time they catch up to Deadpool's time line, all the X-Men should be at their 30s to 40s while the actors still look young. Since The Dark Phoenix Saga is confirmed already, I think at the end of the movie they should reboot the whole franchise. (My Scarlet Witch Reality Revamp Ideas) I'm not those people who say to give it back to Fox because I loved X-Men DOFP so much. I think a new fresh start is needed with this franchise.

 

[GiftedChris]

If Fox care and wants to built their own X-Men Cinematic Universe their answer is JOSS WHEDON!!!

 

[kasjan]

If next movie is 'Mutant Massacre', then I want Marauders killing Mystique at begin of the movie.

 

[Nintendo]

whatever we want is meaningless as long as Kinberg writes one of those mediocre ******** scripts...

Shi'Ar, Mr. Sinister, Dark Phoenix,...they will all be equally bad...

Exactly. I'm really sick of him and Fox in general TBH. I like the tone of the X Men films under Fox, I just think they have NO IDEA what they are doing as evidenced in Apocalypse and throughout the series. They have no plan, and if it wasn't for Deadpool, I would say this series is getting rebooted after Apocalypse...

 

[psylockolussus]

Kinberg got lucky with Days of Future Past. He already screwed up 3 Marvel films. Fox should know better that he's bad for business.

 

[RagingTempest]

I'd love to see a StarJammers movie as well as a proper Phoenix Saga/Dark Phoenix Saga in the films. Have Mr. Sinister for Wolverine 3 as well as the Marauders. The 3rd trilogy should center around the Phoenix/Dark Phoenix Sagas; reintroduce the Hellfire Club and have Mastermind manipulate the Phoenix. End the trilogy with Onslaught and that would be an excellent finish to the franchise. So Wolverine 3 and Gambit in 2017, have X-Force and New Mutants in 2020/2022). But the movies I want to come out next for the franchise go like this:

Starjammers (2018) (Set in the 70s just after Alex and Scott were orphaned)
Plot Synopsis-Corsair and his wife save their two sons' life before their plane goes down and they are transported to an alien ship in space. Watching his wife murdered before his eyes and their new born son taken away from him, Corsair manages to escape and pledges to seek revenge against D'Ken and the Shi'ar Empire which leads to him forming his own band of odd but formidable team of space pirates that steal and cause chaos by means of getting information and more power to stop the Shi'ar once and for all.
Rooster: Corsair (Captain of the Starjammers), Ch'od, Cr'eee, Hepzibah, Raza Longknife and Korvus
Allies: Lilandra


X7 aka X-men: Phoenix Rising (2019) (Set in the 90s)
Plot Synopsis-Jean is becoming unable to control the Phoenix power within her leading the X-men to investigate how the Phoenix Force within came to be. Meanwhile, deep in space the war between the Shi'ar Empire and the Starjammers continue as D'Ken has found the where abouts of the M'Kraan Crystal. Landing on Earth, The X-men fight the Starjammers thinking they are enemies before realizing that Jean is the Phoenix and realize she is the last hope to stop the dreaded D'Ken before he unlocks the full power of the crystal by reshaping the universe into his own image.
Rooster: Cyclops, Jean/Phoenix, Storm, Nightcrawler, Quicksilver, Jubilee
New Recruits: Gambit, Angel and Iceman
Allies: Lilandra and the Starjammers

X8 aka X-men: Dark Phoenix (2021) (Set in the 2000s)
Plot Synopsis-After years of protecting the universe from the power of the M'Kraan Crystal, Jean mysteriously returns to Earth with no memory of what has transpired the last few years. Professor X and X-men realize the Phoenix has completely taken over Jean, leading Xavier to put a powerful mental barrier in her to keep the Phoenix at bay. Meanwhile, Mastermind has formed a New Hellfire Club who are aware of the Phoenix's return and plan to make her their newest addition thanks to Mastermind attempts at tempting the Phoenix to embrace her Dark power.
Rooster: Cyclops, Storm, Nightcrawler, Quicksilver, Psylocke, Jubilee, Gambit, Angel and Iceman
New Recruits: Rogue, Colossus, Shadowcat and Wolverine


X9 aka X-men: Onslaught (2023) (Set in the early 2010s)
Plot Synosis-Magneto has made a home for himself and his own nation of mutants on Genosha when they are suddenly by a new breed of Sentinels. The UN are eager to put Magneto under custody after disappearing after the events of "X-men: Apocalypse" and want to put him under trial. This leads the X-men to string into action to save Magneto and his island but during the attack, Magneto is fatality wounded. Wanting to save his old friend, Xavier uses his telepathy to combined his mind with Eric's, leading them to defeat the Sentinels. The X-men adding a known criminal leads them to be hated by the general public and the world begins to hated mutants instead of seeing them as heroes or saviors. On the run, the X-men must also track down the whereabouts of both Xavier and Magneto who have turned into a powerful new entity called Onslaught who is bent on turning the world into his own image. The mutant world must combine forces with the X-men to take down him down and truly show why mutants belong to coexist with humans.
Rooster: Cyclops, Storm, Jean, Quicksilver, Iceman, Rogue, Psylocke, Jubilee, Wolverine, Gambit, Colossus, Shadowcat, Sunspot, Angel, Warpath, Bishop....

 

[metaphysician]

More and more I realize that I really hate the "decade jump sequel plan". Making the revival a period piece was a fine idea. . . but they should have *kept* it in the 60s, at least for a couple movies.

 

[henzINNIT]

I liked the concept of a time jumping trilogy (though I expected more care to be put into it) but I'm sick of it by now already. I'm sick of the past in general.

 

[kasjan]

Since now keep it in 80's, I want to see chracter development after they're finally X-Men team.

 

[Tilapia]

I think New Mutants has potential if they bring back some OT cast members subbing for Xavier as head masters.

 

[magneto23]

I think New Mutants has potential if they bring back some OT cast members subbing for Xavier as head masters.

It has all the potential it needs without their involvement. Even if it took place in present day, which doesn't match with what we've heard about it, OT presence would be minimal. They certainly wouldn't make or break the potential of New Mutants. That's for sure. Since its not about them at all.

 

[BeholdMe]

I think New Mutants has potential if they bring back some OT cast members subbing for Xavier as head masters.

If it's a period piece how is that possible last I heard it wasn't going to be a present day film so the OT won't appear. I am excited to see Magik though really want to hear more about this film.

 

[Tilapia]

I'm not aware of any rumors. But if it's the classic New Mutants team and it takes place in the 80's, it's probably a bomb. Seriously, people didn't care for the new mutants on the FC roster (hence killing most of them off screen sufficed). Why would they care for a roster the general audience has virtually no knowledge of? 80's and 90's films would automatically have the expectation that the core X-Men will be featured, unless the stories revolve outside of the school, which would be counter intuitive to New Mutants. I see it taking place in the present day if it happens at all.

 

[psylockolussus]

It would probably do poorly and I just don't think James McAvoy is a big seller to the GA. And besides why should he mentor the new Mutants in the 90s, when we haven't seen him mentor Storm, Cyclops, Nightcrawler in the battlefield? Give the role to someone else!

I think New Mutants has potential if they bring back some OT cast members subbing for Xavier as head masters.

It would be great to see James Marsden mentor the new mutants! They could keep lowkey like the Deadpool movie and have the OT cast members/Ryan Reynolds for a cameo role.

Like we already saw Colossus mentoring a mutant in Deadpool, why can't we get that with the other OT characters

 

[Tilapia]

You're still limited with what you can do with New Mutants. If Apocalypse only grossed 600 million (if that), then New Mutants past or present would struggle. There is no rush for it. You can sit on it, then fire up another trilogy in another 5 -10 years. I still think the best course of action is 80's and 90's for the forseeable future, with the exception of Deadpool. Definitely going to milk that cow. Grow some boobs Renolds.

 

[magneto23]

I'm not aware of any rumors. But if it's the classic New Mutants team and it takes place in the 80's, it's probably a bomb.

Seriously, people didn't care for the new mutants on the FC roster (hence killing most of them off screen sufficed). Why would they care for a roster the general audience has virtually no knowledge of?

Because they would hopefully be interesting characters that are apart of a good story. That's the usual way of getting audiences to care.

80's and 90's films would automatically have the expectation that the core X-Men will be featured, unless the stories revolve outside of the school, which would be counter intuitive to New Mutants. I see it taking place in the present day if it happens at all.

Whether it's the past or present, the X-Men are there at the mansion. So that expectation is there regardless. At the end of the day, it's about the New Mutants. They can write significant roles or cameo roles or no role at all for the X-Men. It doesn't matter because it's not about them

 

[Tilapia]

I think another poster said it best in the other thread. We just saw the beginnings of Xavier mentoring the core X-team. Now you want to add a movie revolving around Cannonball, Wolfsbane, and the gamut? Doesn't make sense. Not a smart creative or business decision. That's the way I look at it.

If they were doing this, I think they would have added some teasers in the Quicksilver scene to highlight different potential mutants. Regardless, I don't see the potential at this time.

Besides, some New Mutants were featured in DoFP future scenes, so that's the ideal place to stick them.

 

[TheNewSlayer]

I feel like Apocalypse should have been two movies. But it work out ok.

But it will be a huge mistake to make Phoenix and Dark Phoenix in the same movie.

We have to have a movie of Phoenix (good one) and than later in a next movie, she becomes Dark Phoenix.

 

[metaphysician]

Eh, New Mutants should work fine. . . provided you do two things:

1. Tell a good story about interesting characters

2. Keep the budget reasonable

It will only run into problems if you try and turn it into the Not!X-Men, dealing with yet another world-threatening affair.

 

[GuestStar2004]

I think another poster said it best in the other thread. We just saw the beginnings of Xavier mentoring the core X-team. Now you want to add a movie revolving around Cannonball, Wolfsbane, and the gamut? Doesn't make sense. Not a smart creative or business decision. That's the way I look at it.

Not all teams have to be the X-Men and there is still a school for gifted mutants that are not the x-men, so lets find out abit about some of these other mutants

If they were doing this, I think they would have added some teasers in the Quicksilver scene to highlight different potential mutants. Regardless, I don't see the potential at this time.

Perhaps none of them are at the school yet

Besides, some New Mutants were featured in DoFP future scenes, so that's the ideal place to stick them.

Who sunspot? technically he is to old in that case for what they are doing with the character

 

[psylockolussus]

Eh, New Mutants should work fine. . . provided you do two things:

1. Tell a good story about interesting characters

2. Keep the budget reasonable

It will only run into problems if you try and turn it into the Not!X-Men, dealing with yet another world-threatening affair.

World threatening affair is fine as long as they portrayed it well. Apocalypse failed on that, like it was just Magneto wrecking havoc.

 

[Nerial]

World threatening affair is fine as long as they portrayed it well. Apocalypse failed on that, like it was just Magneto wrecking havoc.

Agreed. Personally, I hate destruction porn, but not because of the destruction itself--filmmakers keep substituting it for good storytelling. And that's crap.

If there's a good reason for it, then bring it on. But there rarely is.