Nightwing film.

[MulligaN Stew]

After the trilogy of Batman films is complete.

Can you see the WB developing a Nightwing or a Batman Beyond film?

I think it could expand on the DC film universe in a nice way; one of the things I admired about the 'Batman Beyond' series was their portrayal of Bruce as a senior citizen who was addicted to his work. The viewer could literally believe that he would keel over at in the Batcave at his super-comp running diagnostics, villain profiles, or monitoring night patrols. Terry McGinnis was a nice edition, and his story is one that a lot of viewers could sympathize with. He's also a Batman with family responsibilities. We've never really seen that.

In Nightwing, we have a young hero who's been trained, influenced, and raised by Batman. Now he's on his own. Why did he leave? What does he have to prove 1) to Bruce 2) the world 3) himself? How does he fair on his own without the day to day guidance?

I think it could work with the right treatment.

What are your thoughts?

This is MulligaN's first thread, so be gentle kath-hounds.

 

[Kaizer]

I can see WB doing this, and it would turn out just like Catwoman, sucky sucky....

 

[larryfilmmaker]

I can see WB doing this, and it would turn out just like Catwoman, sucky sucky....

yeah but Catwoman's movie being terrible had nothing to do with how good or bad the character is. Nightwing, I think more than a futuristic Batman, has an amazing story to tell if the hardcore Bat-nuts are able to accept a version where Batman's war on crime goes beyond just one guy in a bat costume. I'd place it maybe 5 or 10 years after Batman's retirement, death, being crippled, whatever... and I'd go way deep into the relationship between a bitter/amazingly talented young man and the father figure who made an arguably insane decision to let a young boy fight crime. Awesome story there if it's handled right.

 

[MulligaN Stew]

^Well spoken. You see what I'm refering to; the source material is prime for a film, but the 'right' people probably would not accept it at this point.

 

[sojazu]

Interesting.

 

[trustyside-kick]

I'm not so sure about this. I would somewhat enjoy the idea but just because I like Nightwing doesn't mean a movie about him would be good. I don't like the idea of Marvel making a Magneto film and even though I like Wolverine I don't see the point in his own film.

They should do other superheroes or some other than the few already known to the public. A Flash or Green Lantern movie is something I would much rather see.

 

[vibeke_T]

not live action...maybe animated

 

[Bathead]

I don't believe WB would ever bother. The recognizability factor that Batman enjoys among the general public just isn't there for Nightwing. I think WB would be too afraid people would say "Who's this Nightwing, some kinda Batman Lite? You say he's Robin all grown up? I'll pass."

 

[MulligaN Stew]

With all due respect to the general public, screw them; most of them are idiots. . . and I mean this in the most polite form.

I'm thinking in terms of showcasing a different type of hero. We always see a brooding sequestered image, and it's been shoved down our throats through many different interpretations. Some are admirable, while others have no real purpose.

"Who's this Nightwing, some kinda Batman Lite? You say he's Robin all grown up? I'll pass."

Fair enough, but I'm sure people within his actual reality would feel the same way. He would face numerous challenges demanding that he prove himself time and time again. Unlike the Batman, he has a proven example to aspire to[the Dark Knight], but that's a double-edged sword because that comparison could/would potentially damage his psyche.

I'd see this vehicle's main theme or philosophy as one about establishing your identity or self as an important or productive member/part of community/society.

not live action...maybe animated

Eh, if that's what you would consider, ok, but I'd like to see this as a live-action hard R honestly. I know that a lot of purists hate change, but I don't like to see it pigeon-hold the mythos itself. There's a lot of source material on Nightwing and it would really work in a story.

An adult Grayson could reminisce about how death struck him personally(a la Bruce), but the film could also delve into how this young man learned not to follow Bruce's example.[He's - unlike Wayne - not a loner or isn't carrying a burden on his own.] He incorporates himself into the society he serves to better understand it, and to have a perspective on what he's fighting for.

Batman undeniable zeal comes from what he lost; imo of a 'Nightwing' vehicle, Grayson's zeal or strong desire to fight crime would encompass protecting those he does not wish to lose, or taking an actual stand to do what people in his society can't.

The recognizability factor that Batman enjoys among the general public just isn't there for Nightwing.

That's not a disadvantage imo. It's better; a sense of appeal or newness would help the character.

I don't like the idea of Marvel making a Magneto film and even though I like Wolverine I don't see the point in his own film.

Nightwing's a little different from those examples. Like his mentor, he has no powers, fully relies on strict physical-training[various blend of martial-arts: primarily Aikido and Jeet-Kune-Do], and uses his mental strategems to best criminals.

Remember, in some portrayals of the character, Dick Grayson became a NYC cop[post Gotham]. . . on a force loaded with corrupt officers. He's also tried his hand at marriage[tragic story], and he's experienced enough through the mythos to house one film. I'm not talking about a franchise or a trilogy of films; I'm speaking of one film to think outside of the box.

This could evolve into something special and change the way Superhero films are attempted, typecast, viewed. It's just an idea, but I feel that the character has some thought-provoking subject matter.