Nine Eleven

[Varient]

What? no convo?

Interesting.

I remember six years ago everybody talked about it - two years ago conspiracy folk talked about it, as it was obvious to them that our own government set it up?

Now seven years down the road and it's a passing comment on the morning news,... and no comment at all here.



I wonder why?

 

[Darthphere]

As do I.

 

[SuperFerret]

"Passing comment on the morning news"? I see at least four two hour long rememberance specials and that's just the networks, nevermind the History Channel and others.

 

[moraldeficiency]

RIP Jeremy, you are missed.

 

[chamber-music]

People have sort attention spans, remember when we where supposed to go after that Osama Bin Laden fella?

 

[Silk Spectre]

I think there are various reasons. It's already been talked about so much, there really is nothing new to say. It's also a bit of a sore subject, so I think people tend to avoid it. It's important to remember, but we can't live in the past. There is a lot going on in current events that needs to be focused on.

 

[amazingfantasy15]

All the specials have been airing throughout the week and there's plenty of coverage on the news. However, overall 7th anniversary isn't a big number, 1st, 5th, 10th, etc. those are when you'll get the bigger ceremonies.

 

[PLAS]

before the fifth anniversary, it's always too fresh a memory not to remember
on the fifth, well, it's the Fifth! it's a big deal
right now we're in the 7th, so don't expect much fuzz about it, other than the usual remembrances.
at this moment, and throughout the next couple of years, it will seep into the collective conscience of the generations that bore witness to it.
by the 10th, to the newest active members of society will become a fuzzy memory of something that happened when the world was different, it will become an epitome of "simpler times"
it's part of the socio historical process, or some **** like that

 

[Darthphere]

What about the 9th and 11th anniversaries?

 

[Majic Walrus]

We were told to "not let the terrorist win" by continuing with our lives and promising to "never forget".

To me it seems like those things are mutally exclusive. If we spend even 1 day a year remembering this tragedy then we truly haven't continued with our lives and put the past behind us. If we don't spend at least 1 day a year remembering then we've broken our promise to never forget.

I agree with amazingfantasy though. The big years will be 1st, 5th, 10th, then 20th, then maybe 25th. But in 25 years I doubt anyone will ever care. Most of the people that remember the event will be relatively old and the younger generation of people that run the media won't remember enough to care.

It's why we don't celebrate Dec. 7th. It's why we don't celebrate... Whatever day the Alamo fell either.

 

[moraldeficiency]

We were told to "not let the terrorist win" by continuing with our lives and promising to "never forget".

To me it seems like those things are mutally exclusive. If we spend even 1 day a year remembering this tragedy then we truly haven't continued with our lives and put the past behind us. If we don't spend at least 1 day a year remembering then we've broken our promise to never forget.

I agree with amazingfantasy though. The big years will be 1st, 5th, 10th, then 20th, then maybe 25th. But in 25 years I doubt anyone will ever care. Most of the people that remember the event will be relatively old and the younger generation of people that run the media won't remember enough to care.

It's why we don't celebrate Dec. 7th. It's why we don't celebrate... Whatever day the Alamo fell either.

I'd say celebrate is the wrong word here. Memorialize would be a little bit more appropriate.

 

[Majic Walrus]

Yeah... You're right.

 

[Dope Nose]

What? no convo?

Interesting.

I remember six years ago everybody talked about it - two years ago conspiracy folk talked about it, as it was obvious to them that our own government set it up?

Now seven years down the road and it's a passing comment on the morning news,... and no comment at all here.



I wonder why?

http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=311521

 

[moraldeficiency]

Yeah... You're right.

I do have to say you were dead on with:

"If we don't spend at least 1 day a year remembering then we've broken our promise to never forget."

We as a country forget our promises far too easily.

 

[StrainedEyes]

It was a horrible and sad event. It was completely shocking and left a huge impact on our country.

However, I honestly never know what people expect everyone to do on a day like today. There are tributes, silences, and memorials. What else can people do? The world doesn't stop so that we can mourn.

 

[Majic Walrus]

It was a horrible and sad event. It was completely shocking and left a huge impact on our country.

But, I honestly never know what people expect everyone to do on a day like today. There are tributes, silences, and memorials. What else can people do?

See that's just the thing, we assume that as long as someone remembers then we've collectively remembered. We see the moments of silence, we see the TV shows, we know there are memorials, we see people are captializing on the event with t-shirts, plates, coins, and flags. But rarely do people actually care.

Today at my office we encouraged all of the employees to wear red, white, and blue and we planned on having moments of silence this morning at the times that the towers were hit.

Including myself no one practiced moments of silence and no one wore red, white and blue. I think we are all so sickened by the commerical aspect of the tragedy that we really want to not do anything.

I know that I'm sick of seeing the genuine Liberian legal tender 20 dollar bill with 9 on one side and 11 on the other.

 

[moraldeficiency]

very well put, walrus.

people that lost someone will remember, and take a moment to reflect. Most everyone else, and you're exactely right, figure that as long as someone (preferably not them) does something, they've done their part.

As to what we can do. It's not so much that we need all these tributes, but it would be damn fine (though it will never happen) if people took the day or at least part of it to reflect on what it means to them. What the United States means to them, and what it should mean. If everyone put their fangs and daggers away just for the day and tried to remember that whatever our beliefs, feelings or viewpoints are we are all US citizens and there's more alike in us than there is different. If we all just tried to be a little more kind and decent to each other, especially those we don't agree with, some sign of solidarity, that would be far more meaningful than all the stickers, talking points and video specials that will ever be done.

 

[SuperSarah!]

My dad is an architect who works for the national park service and was given the job of designing, building, and managing the national memorial for the flight 93 crash site in Somerset PA. Every year he gives a speech about the memorial (which might just be on CNN right now) and holds a really big ceremony for the family members of the victims at the site. I have gone with him and my family every year to this event and every year get to sit between the Bush family and the victims families. It is very surreal and every time I go I'm overwhelmed with sadness. This is the first year since it happened that I haven't gone with my family....since I'm away at college. In a way I'm happy I'm not there because its so hard to sit through. everyone cries..no matter who you are....men, women...even Bush. I called my parents this morning to see how it was going and they said Mccain was there too. Seeing as I was raised in a very liberal, democratic family...this is the part my Dad offten hates the most. Standing on stage and introducing the president...who he has absolutly no respect for heh. But its his job...and Its important for a memorial to be their for the family memebers to help them through such a tragedy

anyway, thats my input on the matter...I could talk about it for hours since my family is such a huge part of it. I do have a really eerie feeling today though...being here at school and not there....

 

[Immortalfire]

I think of it often, and today of course. I'll always remember it, but it doesn't occupy my every thought.

My thoughts are with the families of those who lost loved ones.

 

[The Squirrel]

http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=311521

It belongs in the community more than politics.

 

[Immortalfire]

It belongs in the community more than politics.

Seconded.

 

[JLBats]

Nobody's asking anyone to forget, but we have to look to the future.

 

[Varient]

As do I.

Rational beings think alike.

"Passing comment on the morning news"? I see at least four two hour long rememberance specials and that's just the networks, nevermind the History Channel and others.

Ah,.. "Scheduled"? I'll probably flip a coin and choose one to watch tonite.

RIP Jeremy, you are missed.

Sorry to hear about your loss,... it doesn't get "better" but it does fade a bit on the pain side over time.

People have sort attention spans, remember when we where supposed to go after that Osama Bin Laden fella?

Yup.
Currently most people believe he is dead.

I think there are various reasons. It's already been talked about so much, there really is nothing new to say. It's also a bit of a sore subject, so I think people tend to avoid it. It's important to remember, but we can't live in the past. There is a lot going on in current events that needs to be focused on.

- I realize there are more important things - but with the howling going on about our wide open borders and the Squelching of most reports of terrorists caught before they can do more damage, you'd think people would talk about the first major successful terrorist act on the US.

 

[moraldeficiency]

Sorry to hear about your loss,... it doesn't get "better" but it does fade a bit on the pain side over time.

absolutely, I rarely hurt over this anymore, it's sad but honestly when you lose someone it's the loss of that person to your life that you're feeling. I do reflect a lot more on this day and try to do something nice I wouldn't normally do as a little tribute (and seeing me do something nice....it's just unsettling and freaky).

And thanks.

 

[Lord Valumart]

i'm just wondering what happened on novmber 9th